The .PRO Discussion

[InvisionTech]

It seems .PRO is slowly coming out of the cage with cheaper reg prices than they were a year ago and major registrars like netsol taking notice of the extension and promoting it.

Here are some that I picked up in last couple of days:

Alexandria.pro

Anchorage.pro

Arlington.pro

Belfast.pro

Birmingham.pro

Budapest.pro

Durham.pro

Fairfax.pro

Italian.pro

Lisbon.pro

Fire away with your regs after the relaunch on September 8th, 2008.

 

[webdomain]

I think your standard press release will do that. Once posted it hundreds of media outlets pickit up as latest content which explains the duplication.

Its still great news though.

 

[Jawed]

Is there interest in geo DOT PRO domains? How would you develop a geo DOT pro like Charlotte.pro?

I don't know about the interest, however a geo pro can be developed as a directory to list all the professionals in different fields residing in that particular geographic area.

 

[JoeBiz]

I don't know about the interest, however a geo pro can be developed as a directory to list all the professionals in different fields residing in that particular geographic area.

If you think about it, there haven't been enough Pros sold overall to take a sample and make any judgment calls about ANYthing.

IMO, a lot of people are acting on impulse and emotion. They see something selling and don't want to be left out so they buy. It's that old "There's a line. I think I'll go stand in it." syndrome. It's how I make all of my business decisions. Just kidding.

And I personally am not going to use the label "Geo" anymore. They are now in my "Travel" category.


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[Jawed]

Travel category is well recognised for .com geos etc. I thought .pro should give the name an extra edge. Supporters of .pro have always highlighted the meaningfulness of the extension. In my opinion .com is not important because it carries some meaning in it. Its value is merely based on its demand.

 

[webdomain]

http://www.pool.com/addbackorders.aspx

Guys..they're back

Jawed..spot on! I hope the .pro edge really diggs in. It would be really cool to see pro make a good dent and gain marketshare. I think it just takes more pushing and development by members of this board and also continue to spread the word.

 

[InvisionTech]

Congrats on the sale, andrew!

Another developed dotpro site
http://reboot.pro/ (not mine)

It would be nice to get notification in email every time someone replies to thread user is subscribed to... one has to VISIT the site in order to get notification and sometimes you can't visit for weeks, kinda retarded and cheap.

 

[JoeBiz]

Would anyone be interested in setting up a thread strictly for Pro appraisals? No one in the official Appraisal thread thinks Pros have any value at all. The only people that have a feel for the current values of Pros are the ones that frequent this thread.

So, we could request that we be allowed to appraise Pros on this thread or request that we be allowed to start another thread. The third option would be to set up another site strictly for Pro appraisals. Maybe Andrew would be interested in having an appraisal page on Total.pro.

Most of us know what we're buying but it would be nice, IMO, if we could get a second opinion from time to time. We would also be helping to stimulate Pro sales by giving potential buyers a realistic value. Because if they ask the Appraisal group, they're not going to be buying anything.

Let me know if you're interested.

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[webdomain]

interesting note that even valuate.com is puttting a reasonable value to some of my .pro domains. trailer and biking.pro brought back 1 to 2k values.

Domain Appraisal
Freq. Searches Traffic Comp. CPC com/net/org Sell It
Trailer.pro $3,500 100,000,000 2,800,000 0 low $1.09 All Taken
Biking.pro $2,200 21,600,000 75,625 0 low $0.93 All Taken
Punch.pro $1,100 42,500,000 75,625 0 high $0.87 All Taken

 

[siga]

Chas, the problems with appraisals is that they are not an exact science. Dot pro appraisals are even more unreliable due to lack of sales. The only thing such an appraisal thread would do is deceive both buyers and sellers into thinking these assets are quantifiable. When what we really are looking for is a more fluid marketplace for dot pro where both buyer and seller are happy with the outcome, this initself would inspire confidence in the tld.
In my opinion the only use of a domain appraisal figure is to groom ones ego.

 

[JoeBiz]

What concerns me more than anything is our Appraisal thread. If anyone new to Pros puts a Pro up for appraisal they're going to get a fat zero. And there goes a potential buyer.

If I had my druthers we'd have something like namebio available. But nothing that elaborate ... just a list of sales.

The more I think about it, what's really bothering me is the lack of education that most domainers have concerning Pros. Two things I hear on a regular basis are ... "You can't reg those. You have to be a doctor or something" and "they're history. they have no value."

Don't take all of this too seriously. I'm not asking for a solution tonight. Those are just my concerns. I cringe when I think about a potential first-time buyer browsing around trying to get some idea of the value of their Pro.

But I worry like a little old lady. :ghost: :ghost: :ghost:

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[siga]

I do agree with you regarding uninformed info, However if (here comes the devils advocate) it insprires the first time buyer/regger to think more carefully with regards to there investment and possibly become a more consencious regger then perhaps it is best. For any tld a more than reg fee appraisal can make people believe they own something of value that does not require further input(time) before it makes them a profit when in fact this is very far from the case.

 

[JoeBiz]

I do agree with you regarding uninformed info, However if (here comes the devils advocate) it insprires the first time buyer/regger to think more carefully with regards to there investment and possibly become a more consencious regger then perhaps it is best.

Why not remove the subjectivity altogether and just present the potential buyer with the facts? In this case, that could be the simplest of simple websites with a list of sales. I realize that Andrew pretty much already has that covered but it would be nice to have a dedicated site. Additionally, we could provide the rules of registration (as we see them : ) And the girls !!! We could go with a modified Bob Parsons method and splatter sex all over the little site ... LOL.

I'd like to have a link that is not easily overlooked that would take a buyer to "ProSales.pro," or something similar. At this point, with his permission, I guess there's no reason I can't link to AK's sales page.

For any tld a more than reg fee appraisal can make people believe they own something of value that does not require further input(time) before it makes them a profit when in fact this is very far from the case.

But that's the idea for a lot of domainers. Flip, Flip, Flip. Buy it. Post it. Sell it. I'm making the transition from domainer to site developer. I have some nice domain names but don't know how to develop or build ANYthing. Just haven't had time to learn. Kind of like owning a nice car but not knowing how to drive. Back in the Olden Days I could build a site with FrontPage, but that was long, long ago, far, far away. Help me Obi Wan!

But don't take me too seriously. I'm just rolling ideas around. And I'm hard headed and argumentative!


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[webdomain]

Guys,

.pro is making excellent progress. It would be great to see some equally excited domainers as us buying .pros. Since there is not, the great opportunity of aquiring some really good domains has been openned over the last few years as prices have dropped dramatically.

This door has to be closing. I am still amazed at some potential domain combinations left but the one words are few and far between at this point.

In regards to prime .pro investors and resales..Alot of the larger .pro holders don't appear to be wanting to sell anything premium for less than 10K. That is not going to allow for a whole lot of turnover within the extension and we need that to drive the market forward as most sales do get reported on dnjournal.

At some point the nice drops are going to slow down and dollar sales for premium domains will rise.(I feel we are entering this period now) Things will continue to improve as the extension gets further adopted. .Pro is great, because its been around the block long enough to be recognized and established itself. The extension has already gone through a changeover in its investment base (providing the good name drops many of us were able to pickup over the last 2 yeas..aided by the poor economy) therefore I don't think we are going to see further large domain drops within the existing registrant base in this extension over the next few years. Everyone left still seems to be accumulating.

Ok, that said..the future is bright..the world of the internet can change quickly. Whats cool is that..it just takes a big domain investor to gain interest in the extension or company promoting a .pro website to provide the push we need.(we just saw a startup elive.pro using a .pro extension as reported by encirca)

I feel very positively that we are headed for continued growth. I wouldn't waste your energy about young domainers on other boards getting distracted. .Pro is one of the few opportunities I see for investors of any size to hit big! Its not going to be like .co or the other big splashes..more like something people are going to wake up to and say wow..why didn't I invest in dot pro?!

I know there is alot of concerns over new extensions being released. However, I'm even feeling that some of this right of the .dot stuff is not going to have as much bang as expected. .Pro is very relevant to a broader class of sites by enhancing a brand providing further definition and edge to business class sites. Few new released .gtld's are going to be able to compete with that as they won't have the broad demographic necessary to support a registry of 100K+ (Many will try). Prepare for another couple of years for all of this to take hold.

Thats my take.

 

[mr-x]

Pool auctions opened today with large reserves.

fly.pro 1000
ear.pro 1000
ale.pro 500
ski.pro 1000
abc.pro 1000
dog.pro 1000
fit.pro 1000
eye.pro 1000
sit.pro 500
ask.pro 2500
ssl.pro 2500



Pool has to be the shadiest drop catcher around. I lost several .eu domains when the "company" that caught them "refused" to transfer them. I wish RegistryPro would use Snapnames.

 

[siga]

, I recognise some of those from namejet auctions. The registry trying to resell and resell dot pros with high reserves does nothing for the registrys already feeble reputation among domainers. Why not attempt to put them on Sedo where endusers may get a sniff of them.
I also think these high reserves prevent a fluid auction.
I agree snapnames would be a better venue as has already had some successful .pro auctions

 

[mr-x]

Pool Sucks. I'm think most of these will end up in Pools portfolio for sale on the aftermarket.

 

[webdomain]

Let see how many times we can resell the same thing.

 

[hakita]

Domain Appraisal
Freq. Searches Traffic Comp. CPC com/net/org Sell It
Trailer.pro $3,500 100,000,000 2,800,000 0 low $1.09 All Taken

http://domainappraisal.net/estimation.html?domaine=trailer.pro

 

[webdomain]

its worth every bit of $1100 Hope to be selling it closer to the .net price in a few years.

thanks for the link.

 

[JoeBiz]

Please tell me there's a way to make bulk Whois changes on EnCirca.



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