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It seems .PRO is slowly coming out of the cage with cheaper reg prices than they were a year ago and major registrars like netsol taking notice of the extension and promoting it. B-)

Here are some that I picked up in last couple of days:

Alexandria.pro

Anchorage.pro

Arlington.pro

Belfast.pro

Birmingham.pro

Budapest.pro

Durham.pro

Fairfax.pro

Italian.pro

Lisbon.pro

Fire away with your regs after the relaunch on September 8th, 2008.
 
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I don't see how being on the second page of Yahoo for that term warrants excitement but whatever makes you happy.

calendars.pro is ranking second page on search for calendars on yahoo!!


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Sorry to say but this is not a good reason, either. But again, whatever I suppose.

Have a look at the sale prices page on Total.pro. 10 of the low to high $X,XXX sales in the last 14 months are mine.
 
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In .pro you need to have ultra-premium names to make any considerable profit. The reason is very simple. The end users are not aware of it. The only buyers are the domainers themselves.

I haven't done any scientific survey. However I work in the IT industry and believe me or not, I have never come across any single IT professional in my real life who knows about this TLD, let alone ordinary people.
 
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From all I've read in the last page of this thread, it seems to me that .pro is a domainer's extension and nothing more. It has no real value or usage but .pro owners are giving it props for its brandability, ease of acquiring premiums via hand reg etc. It's all a bunch of speculation and high hopes. ppl can invest as they see fit, of course, but I don't see .pro ever being a common extension. It's just a domainer's domain.

In .pro you need to have ultra-premium names to make any considerable profit. The reason is very simple. The end users are not aware of it. The only buyers are the domainers themselves.

I haven't done any scientific survey. However I work in the IT industry and believe me or not, I have never come across any single IT professional in my real life who knows about this TLD, let alone ordinary people.
 
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I haven't done any scientific survey. However I work in the IT industry and believe me or not, I have never come across any single IT professional in my real life who knows about this TLD, let alone ordinary people.

Well that took me all of 45 seconds. Not looking very hard Jawed.

Doorbell.pro

I thought that Domainers were Domainers with the goal being to help the industry as a whole as opposed to bashing an extension when it's down. What is it with you two? Can you explain? I'd really like to see your response.

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You're in the wrong industry. lol Domainers are domainers to make money or as a hobby. Period. Domainers aren't here to help the industry in any way. And we are critics. It's a dire necessity to be a critic to be a serious domainer. It's business.

I thought that Domainers were Domainers with the goal being to help the industry as a whole as opposed to bashing an extension when it's down.
 
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Who visits .pro sites on a regular basis ?
 
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You're in the wrong industry. lol Domainers are domainers to make money or as a hobby. Period. Domainers aren't here to help the industry in any way. And we are critics. It's a dire necessity to be a critic to be a serious domainer. It's business.

I make money by networking and making friends with domainers and giving help and getting help in return. Works well for me. I'm sorry that you don't have whatever it takes to make it work for you. Whatever the reason, you don't need to take out your frustrations on the rest of us.

I guess we'll be discussing pro's elsewhere since this thread seems to have been taken over by the hungry jackals.
 
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The absolute only ones I've ever seen or heard of in my life were in NP. I've never seen a domain.pro ANYWHERE outside of NP. It's a domainer's extension, full of speculation and hope.

Who visits .pro sites on a regular basis ?
 
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The absolute only ones I've ever seen or heard of in my life were in NP. I've never seen a domain.pro ANYWHERE outside of NP. It's a domainer's extension, full of speculation and hope.

I just gave you one. Pay attention.

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Randy. If you like, I'll help you find a brick wall to argue with. I'm kind of busy.
 
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You gave me one in NP! lol It'd be nice if you read m post closely before posting. I've never heard of a .pro from any source ever outside of NP. Ever.

And you're asking me to pay attention? Practice what you preach, please.

I just gave you one. Pay attention.


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I see no argument

Randy. If you like, I'll help you find a brick wall to argue with. I'm kind of busy.
 
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You gave me one in NP! lol It'd be nice if you read m post closely before posting. I've never heard of a .pro from any source ever outside of NP. Ever.

And you're asking me to pay attention? Practice what you preach, please.



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I see no argument

http://www.doorbell.pro/

I've never seen a ME outside of NP. But that's only because I haven't looked.

Have a good day Randy,
Chat later.
Chas
 
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No hostilities intended. I don't mind a good discussion or argument as long as it's kept to a civil level.

But I've never heard of doorbells.pro in my life til saw it here. I've never seen a .pro website in my life except those mentioned in NP. The fact remains that the vast majority of ppl do not know of .pro. The term is actually a terrible one for a domain. Since it's a common word, the general consensus is that .pro would be incorporated into the domain's keyword/text ie ppl would more than likely hear of auto.pro and type in autopro.com. That hurts terribly. That likely would not happen to auto.net since every net user is familiar that there is a .net and wouldn't mistake it for the part of a domain left of the dot.

With .me: There are a lot of .me sites out there. Of course, you likely haven't seen one. The fact does remain however that several million ppl are aware of .me. That's a tiny number considering the amount of ppl who uses the net. I've seen no statistics but I'd bet my rent money that there are less than 5,000 non domainers/webmasters who even know .pro exist.

This isn't to say that .pro is a failure. It might overtake .com someday (that's likely to never happen but it's just speculation). But right now, at this exact second, .pro doesn't look to have any hope for a future. I wish .pro owners luck. Truly, I do. But they aren't showing me any reason to invest in them. It'll take a lot more than a few modest sales an being on page 2 of Yahoo for me to risk losing all my money.

http://www.doorbell.pro/

I've never seen a ME outside of NP. But that's only because I haven't looked.

Have a good day Randy,
Chat later.
Chas
 
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Randy, sounds like you have your answer. Don't invest in .pro
Otherwise, I believe those of us that feel that .pro has a a future will.
 
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I think you're right.

Randy, sounds like you have your answer. Don't invest in .pro
Otherwise, I believe those of us that feel that .pro has a a future will.
 
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.pro is cool.

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How many premium .pros do you own Randy? ;)

There isn't too much hope for gaining domainer fans in the extension if they don't already have any good .pro's. If anything, .pro gaining in popularity hurts their investment in other tld's.
 
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The only buyers are the domainers themselves.

That's not true. Of the 10 .pros I have sold since September 2009, none of the buyers have been pure domainers. By that, I mean people who buy domains only to sell on or park. There is no money in parked .pros, I redirect my 300 .pros to my website Total.pro for that reason. Also, there is no margin in my .pros for a domainer, my average sale price is over $3,000.

The most common buyer type is domainer-developers, people who can and do develop websites, often .pro websites. I am a domainer-developer, I own alot of .pros but I also develop websites as a hobby. My current project is an LLL.com retail site. Other buyer types are corporates buying .pro defensively, for example Booking.com bought Booking.pro; professionals, for example Switch.pro was bought by a Japanese lighting engineer; and people redirecting .pro to developed websites, for example Touch.pro is redirected to TouchWindow.com.

Three interesting features of the .pro market;

1) Professional part time entrepreneurs who like the branding angle and concept of .pro have more money to spend on domain names than the average minisite developer or domainer.

2) Ownership of genuinely premium .pros is concentrated. This restricts the supply of top keywords and so you get fairly high valuations considering how few people have heard of the extension and are eligible to register them when they come up for auction. For example, RealEstate.pro sold for $14,000 at Snapnames in September.

3) The remaining top .pros are owned by people who have invested about $500 in registration fees since 2005 and aren't about to drop them or sell for a small profit now reg fees have fallen 80%. They are professional people who don't need the money. I know how tightly .pros are held because I spent several years trying to buy up every one of them for sale at reseller prices.

All of these factors combine to make .pro not particularly attractive to domainers. Most domainers aren't eligible to register .pro and professionals earn too much money in their day job to be bothered flipping .pros for the equivalent of a couple of hours of their time.

The key buyers of most alternative domain extensions are other domainers, there is often a glut of interest at landrush followed by fewer and fewer sales at lower and lower prices in subsequent years.

.pro burns more slowly, it's taken 5 years for the spark to become a flame and it's still a registry change and the abolitions of residual restrictions away from a fire but the exquisitely beautiful domain names .pro produces like Poker.pro, Game.pro, Golf.pro, Office.pro, and so on, mean it will always have a chance of catching fire.

I'm genuinely grateful that people like yourself and Archangel invest so much of your time for free discussing .pro because it boosts my sales enquiries! :blink:

However, I'm not convinced a forum moderator like Archangel, who is supposed to be neutral, should invest as much time as he does berating .pro. One post should be enough, we get the message, you don't like the extension, move on, haven't you got any moderating to do?
 
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However, I'm not convinced a forum moderator like Archangel, who is supposed to be neutral, should invest as much time as he does berating .pro. One post should be enough, we get the message, you don't like the extension, move on, haven't you got any moderating to do?

I can see you have a vested interest here, but this is the ".pro discussion thread" and it is telling that you don't want anyone who disagrees with your sales pitch to voice their opinion.
 
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One would be foolish to think that edification can be sought in finality with a mere post. I figured you, of all people, would have figured that out on your own.

I made my last post and was going to walk away but nah, I think one more post is in order.

It's admirable that you went to such length to explain things. I do admit that I'm now impressed with .pro albeit only very slightly. That's a lot considering I had none whatsoever before. You own 300. Do I think that's a foolish thing? That would depend on your portfolio and the general nature of .pro's existence ie reg fees. If you have all/mostly category-killers and if the fees aren't too high, then I suppose holding them wouldn't be bad. But I'm still wary of the idea of holding so many of them. One or 2 prime .pro's, perhaps. 300 sounds risky to me. But if you have the money, go for it. I've invested in NNN.cc's and made great profit and I've invested in CCC.nets and lost a sizable amount. I still don't see it as a smart thing to own a lot of .pro but owning a few killer ones wouldn't be a bad idea -- assuming reg fees weren't too steep.

But as always, it's your money one way or the other.

That's not true. Of the 10 .pros I have sold since September 2009, none of the buyers have been pure domainers. By that, I mean people who buy domains only to sell on or park. There is no money in parked .pros, I redirect my 300 .pros to my website Total.pro for that reason. Also, there is no margin in my .pros for a domainer, my average sale price is over $3,000.

The most common buyer type is domainer-developers, people who can and do develop websites, often .pro websites. I am a domainer-developer, I own alot of .pros but I also develop websites as a hobby. My current project is an LLL.com retail site. Other buyer types are corporates buying .pro defensively, for example Booking.com bought Booking.pro; professionals, for example Switch.pro was bought by a Japanese lighting engineer; and people redirecting .pro to developed websites, for example Touch.pro is redirected to TouchWindow.com.

Three interesting features of the .pro market;

1) Professional part time entrepreneurs who like the branding angle and concept of .pro have more money to spend on domain names than the average minisite developer or domainer.

2) Ownership of genuinely premium .pros is concentrated. This restricts the supply of top keywords and so you get fairly high valuations considering how few people have heard of the extension and are eligible to register them when they come up for auction. For example, RealEstate.pro sold for $14,000 at Snapnames in September.

3) The remaining top .pros are owned by people who have invested about $500 in registration fees since 2005 and aren't about to drop them or sell for a small profit now reg fees have fallen 80%. They are professional people who don't need the money. I know how tightly .pros are held because I spent several years trying to buy up every one of them for sale at reseller prices.

All of these factors combine to make .pro not particularly attractive to domainers. Most domainers aren't eligible to register .pro and professionals earn too much money in their day job to be bothered flipping .pros for the equivalent of a couple of hours of their time.

The key buyers of most alternative domain extensions are other domainers, there is often a glut of interest at landrush followed by fewer and fewer sales at lower and lower prices in subsequent years.

.pro burns more slowly, it's taken 5 years for the spark to become a flame and it's still a registry change and the abolitions of residual restrictions away from a fire but the exquisitely beautiful domain names .pro produces like Poker.pro, Game.pro, Golf.pro, Office.pro, and so on, mean it will always have a chance of catching fire.

I'm genuinely grateful that people like yourself and Archangel invest so much of your time for free discussing .pro because it boosts my sales enquiries! :blink:

However, I'm not convinced a forum moderator like Archangel, who is supposed to be neutral, should invest as much time as he does berating .pro. One post should be enough, we get the message, you don't like the extension, move on, haven't you got any moderating to do?


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Precisely.

I can see you have a vested interest here, but this is the ".pro discussion thread" and it is telling that you don't want anyone who disagrees with your sales pitch to voice their opinion.


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I've never owned one in my life. I have no idea where to even register them.

How many premium .pros do you own Randy? ;)
 
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Randy, take care buddy and thanks for the good luck..sold 3 calendars today off the .pro site :) No joke.
 
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