.tv The premium dot tv domain name system...has its faults...but

[*AllThings.tv*]

It seems that at least once a week if not more, I read a thread or series of posts that rip on the premium pricing policies of Verisign. While I agree that some of the premium pricing policy decisions are strange or that some names are over-priced, few of us would own some of the powerful generic dot names that we do (in other words the higher price left the domain on the shelf and available for us to purchase).

I know that I wouldn't have spent as much time on this forum, meeting different people, doing business with new and interesting people, and developing friendships with people who I feel comfortable calling every so often to say hi and enjoy a real conversation (as opposed to a chat or online forum discussion).

Since the premium pricing system is in place and there is nothing any of us can do about it, we should focus on the positive things that this offers us...mainly a chance...a chance to get a great domain and make some great contacts.

As time goes on, the demand for domain names only seem to increase and I am witnessing how many of us are now harnessing the different Internet technologies available to develop our dot names....whether they be premium or not.

Some who I have met on this very forum are already on their second or third major developments. The success they experienced with their early dot tv domain name investments enabled them to acquire more expensive premium names which they might have felt were too expensive when they first invested in the extension.

It goes to show you that focusing on monetizing/developing your names in the present can increase the opportunities available to you in the future.

Just wanted to share.

 

[RPK]

I tend to agree with you as well. A lot of us wold not have the opportunity we have if not for the premium structure in place. For sure there are issues, but honestly if you were going to develop a successful website and you have a great plan for it, then $500, $1000, even $5000/year is not a lot of money. $5000 a year is about $400/month. That's less then rent for an office almost anywhere. If you are starting a company, the right keyword .tv can be a huge starter for you. People will take you more seriously if you were writing from [email protected] then from [email protected].

The main difference with this board, is that Namepros is a domainer forum and not a development forum. As a domainer I hear your frustrations. As a developer? There is a lot of gold out there that you can still get for a bargain.

 

[*AllThings.tv*]

You are absolutely correct. I too viewed premium pricing in terms of a monthly rent to help evaluate whether a domain's premium yearly price was worth it. Lately, my thoughts are that may not be enough for a complete evaluation of the domain name.

For example, once developed, some keywords will yield greater search engine traffic than others simply because of the frequency with which users search. My guess is that some of the outrageous premium pricing reflects some of this.

With everything focusing on niche, you could take news.tv or business.tv for and turn them into mega domains by adding subdomains for the keywords that people search for related to business and news. Prior to a recent change in Google's policy about how it intends to treat subdomains, subdomains would be treated as different, individual sites in Google's search results.

This meant that news.tv could spawn a countless number of search friendly domains:
Entertainment.News.tv
Sports.News.tv
Political.News.tv

So could Business.tv:
Online.Business.tv
Small.Business.tv
International.Business.tv
Local.Business.tv


While this is total speculation on my part, it should not be understated that these names are valuable for their underlying generic keyword power.

My point is that the generic keyword power of a domain may be something to seriously consider when evaluating the yearly price of a generic, keyword dot tv domain name not just what would be reasonable to pay in rent.

I am sure you already do it, but its worth breaking out on paper for evaluation purposes especially when you lookup the amounts companies pay to sponsor terms or as part of Google's adsense program.

 

[equity78]

I have been writing this for two years now, I know all do not agree (Roy) but I believe most people here would either be here with bad names or be invested in other extensions. All of the great domains would have been gone. Elequa told me two years ago if it were regular pricing for LL and LLL.tv he would have regged them all years ago like when he did the buyout on LLL.info and LLL.biz.

 

[Dr. Mindwrecker]

I have been writing this for two years now, I know all do not agree (Roy) but I believe most people here would either be here with bad names or be invested in other extensions. All of the great domains would have been gone. Elequa told me two years ago if it were regular pricing for LL and LLL.tv he would have regged them all years ago like when he did the buyout on LLL.info and LLL.biz.

Is Elequa the one from the middle east? Did he do the same with .net as well?

He wont sell anything will he?

 

[equity78]

Kuwait, he did not do a buyout of the LLL.net only .info and .biz. He does not sell that's correct. He paid $65,000 for Travel.tv and $35,000 for Mail.tv, $20,000 for Plasma.tv.

 

[Dr. Mindwrecker]

Him and Mrs Jello are the two big players that really got it going back in 2000 right?

Those two guys have some guts as far as im concerned, very smart and forward thinking.

Is Elequa that "Future Media Architects"?

 

[equity78]

Yes, he is FMA. Its also easier to have those guts when you have their kind of money MW.

If either lost $1 million in .tv it would be like you losing $100 at a casino maybe like losing $30

 

[Dr. Mindwrecker]

Yes, he is FMA. Its also easier to have those guts MW when you have their wealth. IF either lost $1million it would be like you losing $100 at a casino.

LOL

Well, Mrs Jello did some amazing things to make that money to begin with right?

I guess that means we should take there opinions and thoughts into serious consideration when looking at this extension.

I mean if they have good thoughts about it, I value there opinions more so then an average domainer who slams the extension...

 

[equity78]

Mrs Jello is Igal Lichtman

Igal Lichtman was the founder, chairman and CEO of Magic Solutions International, a software company in the field of help desk & asset management, with 300 employees and annual trailing sales over $50M. In 1996 and 1997, Magic Solutions was among INC 500's fastest growing companies in the US, and in April 1998 was acquired by Network Associates Inc. (NETA) (formerly and currently McAfee Associates) for $110M.

Mr. Lichtman was a founder of a prosperous Computer/LAN VAR business that achieved recognition among the top 100 LAN VAR's in the US in 1986-1988. In 1996, Mr. Lichtman was awarded the Ernst & Young Entrepreneur of the Year® Award [1]for New Jersey in the Software category and his company, Magic Solutions, ranked #238 on the 1996 Inc. 500, by recording over 1,000 growth over 5 years [2][3]. Search technology that Mr. Licthman's company created was also licensed to Microsoft for use in their TechNet product[4].

After the sale of Magic Solutions Mr. Lichtman has built and funded a number of high tech start ups including www.iboogie.com, www.quigo.com and www.domainSpa.com [5], which was an early entrant into "pay per click" internet advertising business model.

Charities work includes board member ship for the Friends of the Israel Defense Forces and the endowment of a wing at MadaTech, the Israel National Museum of Science, Technology and Space.

Mr. Lichtman has held various positions as both engineer and programmer; he also is a former officer of the Israeli Air Force. He earned a BSEE from Technion, the Israeli Institute of Technology.

 

[Dr. Mindwrecker]

Thats an incredible resume!!!
Plus he owns xxx.tv

Have you ever spoken to Mr. Lichtman?

 

[equity78]

Quigo Technologies, Inc. is a privately owned search engine marketing company headquartered in New York City. Founded in Israel in 2000 by Yaron Galai and Oded Itzhak, it developed proprietary search solutions for the online contextual advertising it offers through its two products: AdSonar and FeedPoint.

Since 2005 it has steadily been gaining a market share of the $2 billion contextual advertising market controlled by Google AdSense and Yahoo!. With its transparent and client-controlled business process, "its growing success has apparently persuaded Google that it has to change the way it sells the sponsored link ads in the future."[1]

Quigo was acquired by AOL in December 2007. $300 Million

 

[Dr. Mindwrecker]

Quigo was acquired by AOL in December 2007. $300 Million

Wow that is very interesting, kind of under the radar..., especially today after hearing about this Yahoo-Microsoft buzz.

 

[Ammudamus]

MW,
This thread may help:

http://www.namepros.com/dot-tv/196367-hey-come-on-tv-big-brothers.html?highlight=mrsjello

Thanks,
A

 

[Dr. Mindwrecker]

MW,
This thread may help:

http://www.namepros.com/dot-tv/196367-hey-come-on-tv-big-brothers.html?highlight=mrsjello

Thanks,
A

Wow that is a great thread, thankyou so much.

Interesting to see how names were bought at live auction. He does not like premium renewal fees but I saw how EQ still felt strongly then about LL.tv and LLL.tv


Any posts with Elequa?

 

[smashfactory]

domainspa also owns golf.tv i believe- when i got igolf i emailed them just to see how much golf.tv was- i was told no less than 6 figures

 

[TheBulldog]

I won't comment on what happened in the past, because we can't change it and it doesn't really matter.

What I will say is something I have said before. The premium pricing should go away. The confusion should go away. The non-transparency should go away.

I personally, and this is just my opinion, won't touch another premium ever. First and foremost, the double billing that people are complaining about makes me not trust ENOM, so I don't think I will be using them again. So that takes me out of the premium picture and I am fine with that.

I also believe that the premium pricing, if it went away, would create a mini land rush and a lot less confusion and would only help the extension. Obviously Demand won't be helping us, so that really only leaves the big V to clean up the premium mess.

So that won't happen.

My short opinion: I don't care what happened in the past, premium pricing is stupid and holds extensions back.

 

[Dangerous Dan]

As has been said, eNom is not responsible for setting the premium pricing. It's a VeriSign thing.

 

[TheBulldog]

Dan, we are aware of that.

Doesn't really change anything.

 

[TheWatcher]

The .TV is now being recognize in the media and entertainment business, we can't stop them now. They make money from premium names in the low demand, there is no way that they will change it now when demand is high.

As MrsJello said last Y'2000, whether they will get money from this investment or people will laugh at them. I guess everyone knows the answer, their portfolio is now a fortune.

Did he complain from $50 registration cost at least or more for premium names, I guess not.