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The official .mobi/ .asia/ .me/ .TV sucks thread

It seems every good thread these days gets filled with .mobi/ .asia/ .IDN/ .TV/ .us, debates. So here's a thread we can have at it! We can also refer people here if things get heated.

;)

I'll start with a neutral statement:

WTF is the point of .mobi?
 
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Rubber Duck said:
So every boat comes with a paddle! :bingo:


man, i dont think my coffee has kicked in yet or something...

what do you mean?
 
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Reece said:
Endusers sales mean little -- even .asia has a few exceptional ones... When you have to start quoting enduser sales... That's when you know things aren't going as intended :imho:

Here's a crazy idea... what if .mobi isn't turned into the vast wasteland of parked ppc names but actually has to provide content to survive? That is certainly not what most domainers intended, but maybe this is what mTLD intended? Nowhere did they ever promise the names themselves would be valuable on the resale market, yet they consistently pour money into developer tools like DeviceAtlas and meetings with advertising agencies and corporations and name owner events like the ones that recently took place in Silicon Valley. That does not sound like a money grab to me - the problem is domainers thought the old rules of park it and wait for ppc revenue were going to apply, and they don't. Once developed, though, these names could astound you.

Is .mobi a bad investment? Read more here.

Reece said:
I still plan on developing mine nevertheless (have some good names for SEO).

Glad to hear it!

Oh, and Jeff, don't think I forgot you, I am still looking into the answers for the questions you asked.
 
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coast said:
Oh, and Jeff, don't think I forgot you, I am still looking into the answers for the questions you asked.

^ Thank you, Coast ... I've found you (much like Mark, below) to be a cut above the handful of immature and more spammy proponent posters who frequent our balanced forum with unsubstantiated hype, less than newsworthy "news" items, and seemingly constant .MOBI Agendaโ„ข drivel and subterfuge, IMHO. :snaphappy:

I wish, frankly, that Pinkard, Paul, and Jeremy would also be willing to address the ongoing questions and concerns regarding the fading "dot Mobey" / mTLD, IMHO. :sick:
It's imperative that these 2006 - present questions and concerns be addressed! :yell:

Work In Progress said:
Try thinking of a dotmobi site as a shirt back in the 50's that had a union label on it.

Mark, you, like Coast, to me are a cut above the aforementioned drivel and spam ... and I continue to applaud your development efforts as they relate to your "dot Mobey" interests, IMHO. :gl:
Paul and Jeremy should spend less time on the various forums, and more time actually developing as you both are doing, humbly. :imho:

However, if your best analogy for the dwindling "dot Mobey" is a "shirt back in the 50's (that is, 1950's (now over 50 years ago!)) that had a union label on it", then I'm sure you can now clearly see the obsolete and HIGHLY PROBLEMATIC nature of this long, and very awkward extension, and it's serious lack of acceptance and adoption by both corporations and End users / developers alike (those other than defensive โ„ข domains that are currently being pumped as "newsworhty" to combat the ongoing .MOBI Malaiseโ„ข and rather than - subterfuge - actually addressing the increasing questions and concerns)! :guilty: :imho:

Have a great Sunday, friends! :music:
-Jeff B-)
 
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Jeff said:
^ Thank you, Coast ... I've found you (much like Mark, below) to be a cut above the handful of immature and more spammy proponent posters who frequent our balanced forum with unsubstantiated hype, less than newsworthy "news" items, and seemingly constant .MOBI Agendaโ„ข drivel and subterfuge, IMHO. :snaphappy:

I wish, frankly, that Pinkard, Paul, and Jeremy would also be willing to address the ongoing questions and concerns regarding the fading "dot Mobey" / mTLD, IMHO. :sick:
It's imperative that these 2006 - present questions and concerns be addressed! :yell:



Mark, you, like Coast, to me are a cut above the aforementioned drivel and spam ... and I continue to applaud your development efforts as they relate to your "dot Mobey" interests, IMHO. :gl:
Paul and Jeremy should spend less time on the various forums, and more time actually developing as you both are doing, humbly. :imho:

However, if you're best analogy for the dwindling "dot Mobey" is a "shirt back in the 50's (that is, 1950's (now over 50 years ago!)) that had a union label on it", then I'm sure you can now clearly see the obsolete and HIGHLY PROBLEMATIC nature of this long, and very awkward extension, and it's serious lack of acceptance and adoption by both corporations and End users / developers alike (those other than defensive โ„ข domains that are currently being pumped as "newsworhty" to combat the ongoing .MOBI Malaiseโ„ข and rather than - subterfuge - actually addressing the increasing questions and concerns)! :guilty: :imho:

Have a great Sunday, friends! :music:
-Jeff B-)

Jeffrey is attempting to pull others into a personal attack.

This is the usual.

Jeffrey takes a dig. The other poster responds with a personal attack. Jeffrey then points out the attack and requests we all move onward and upward.

Onward and upward, neighbors!

Jeremy
 
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jeremyp said:
Onward and upward! I'm enjoying you!

Jeremy

That's fine, I'm glad you're having fun today Jeremy ... AGAIN, can you please address the myriad of QUESTIONS and CONCERNS regarding the fading hopes of mTLD / and the highly problematic "dot Mobey"? :!: :snaphappy:

Thank you, friend.
-Jeff B-)
 
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Jeff said:
I'm glad you're having fun, Jeremy ... AGAIN, can you please address the myriad of QUESTIONS and CONCERNS regarding the fading hopes of mTLD / and the highly problematic "dot Mobey"? :!: :snaphappy:

Thank you, friend.
-Jeff B-)

Jeffrey,

I haven't given it much thought! I'm enjoying watching you bait folks. You are ok at it. It's funny.

I invested in .COM / .ORG last year. I put six-figures into .MOBI in 2006-2007 and broke even. I hold 90% of that investment. I really like the landrush names - SEO possibilities.

I believe in the positioning of .mobi in the marketplace. I like some of the developments. It's a long-term play. Mobile in general is in the infancy.

More importantly, I tend to have a varied portfolio of domains and non-domains. I'm super diversified... always have been.

No personal attacks from me, Jeffrey.

Enjoy your day, neighbor!

Jeremy
 
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jeremyp said:
No personal attacks from me ...

Righto, the unfortunate personal attacks (by a few rude, bad apple spammers with a clear agenda!) against those who provide a very necessary balance and raise highly relevant questions and concerns regarding the tenuous current state of affairs "dot Mobey" ... have no place here on our #1 Namepros forum! :gl: :imho:

Although you again did not address the core questions and concerns that have been raised here for some time, I appreciate you at least posting regarding the importance of diversification and your own, albeit brief, reservations and limitations regarding the extension, and the much larger Mobile Webยฉ in general, IMHO.

Finally, I'm glad you're having fun and participating here on the forum ... we really do have the best combination of experience, talent, spirit, balance and level headedness, and energy & excitement here in the #1 Namepros Communityโ„ข! :xf.love: :talk:

Good day, friend.
-Jeff B-)
 
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Maybe it's not the TLDs that suck but the domainers ;)
 
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THIS IS A RECORDING... BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP:




current state of affairs "dot Mobey" ...

questions and concerns.....

#1 Namepros Communityโ„ข! .....

fading hopes of mTLD / and the highly problematic "dot Mobey"?....

obsolete and HIGHLY PROBLEMATIC....

unique and compelling content....

IMHO + 1,000 emoticons

onward and upward.....



BEEEEEEEEEEEEP.... THIS.... IS.... A.... RECORDING... beep.
 
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You guys crack me up.

Can we close this thread and get on with life?

This is getting too phunneeeee!
 
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In other news:

Sent a request for a .mobi zone file request almost a week ago.... no reply yet... wheres there fast A+ service?
 
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It takes at least a few days for a response. Same with .asia.
 
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mjnels said:
BEEEEEEEEEEEEP.... THIS.... IS.... A.... RECORDING... beep.

Immature spam and jokes aside ... and back on to the topic of exactly why mTLD and the "dot Mobey" sucks, IMHO ... there is an older thread here entitled; Traffic Mobi Dev Stipulations Are On (from September, 2007) and it references the MANDATED DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENTS and, as one worded in the thread, "content requirements for the winners of the twelve October, 2007 live and silent T.R.A.F.F.I.C. East auctions". It further elaborates on the specific wording of the END USER AGREEMENT in "which all successful must adhere to: operate a live website within six (6) months"! :gl: :snaphappy:

Former (and abandoned) RFP "News.mobi" was included on this list, as well! :red: :o

Whois of "News.mobi":
Registrant Name:Moniker Privacy Services
Registrant Organization:Moniker Privacy Services
Registrant Street1:20 SW 27th Ave.
Registrant Street2:Suite 201
Registrant City:Pompano Beach
Registrant State/Province:FL
Registrant Postal Code:33069
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+1.9549848445
Registrant FAX:+1.9549699155
Registrant Email:[email protected]

Name Server:NS2.FREEREDIRECTION.NET
Name Server:NS1.FREEREDIRECTION.NET

Mark asked me at the time:
... do you have a problem with the news.mobi new owner creating and operating a relevant content live web site with-in six months?

And I humbly replied:
It's confusing because it affirms to me, at least, that mTLD has now completely abandoned the RFP's and RFP process IMHO. Do you understand how much a developed and fully promoted News.mobi in the hands of the right End user ... could have advanced the .MOBI extension and "ecosystem"?

Further, I stated in September, 2007 that this could possibly be viewed as a positive step ... "IF it ensures development and promotion"! I was unequivocal about this point, and have been - no one moreso publicly, in my view - consistently since Day One, IMHO. :!:

Here is the News.mobi "site" today! D-:
Link: http://searchportal.information.com...xRAX1MWVVYEVwxQBlANBlRSBQIOCQMXBGpdBgULVQMMWQ

Another question and concern: Today, on June 1, 2008 ... what has changed other than mTLD having made even more :$: GREED MONEY in its abandonment of the RFP's, and why are the development mandates not being enforced on now dozens of auctioned domains, and how many other generic terms that were auctioned for GREED :$: MONEY have been sold to actual End users / developers and are now fully developed and promoted for those that are "on the go" (please post specific examples, including links, and respective Whois / buyer information)?!? :blink:

Thank you for addressing these ongoing questions and concerns regarding mTLD / "dot Mobey".
Best regards.
-Jeff B-)
 
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Jeff said:
wish, frankly, that Pinkard, Paul, and Jeremy would also be willing to address the ongoing questions and concerns regarding the fading "dot Mobey" / mTLD, IMHO. :sick:
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Mark, you, like Coast, to me are a cut above the aforementioned drivel and spam ... and I continue to applaud your development efforts as they relate to your "dot Mobey" interests, IMHO. :gl:
Paul and Jeremy should spend less time on the various forums, and more time actually developing as you both are doing, humbly. :imho:
Oh Jeff, still demanding people do things for you and trying to tell people how to spend their time...your arrogance knows no bounds. And now you're trying to divide the mobi community? With what, your demands and presumptions about how other people spend their time? What a joke.
 
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Well the dot Mobis community has all the time in the World to spend on Hype. Spending a few minutes addressing a few question for the naysayers is not such a big ask, unless you have no answers.
 
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scandiman said:
Oh Jeff, still demanding people do things for you and trying to tell people how to spend their time...your arrogance knows no bounds. And now you're trying to divide the mobi community? With what, your demands and presumptions about how other people spend their time? What a joke.


Jeffrey has 27,400 posts on NP.

Assuming 10 posts / day, this would take somewhere between 7-8 years.

Take it for what it is and try to enjoy him.

I do. He's a riot.

Jeremy
 
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The whole RFP "development" situation was an absolute disaster and exactly what me + Jeff called it a year ago -- a flop, a lie - a big greedy lie, with zero substance and zero follow-up.

I just sold 28 LLL.mobis for $2240 to "test" the mobi market this weekend. The buyer wasn't a Usual Suspectโ„ข, suggesting there is still life in this aftermarket, although it has certainly taken a steep decline from it's pre-T.R.A.F.F.I.C. hype.

I still think .mobi will service a particular niche well who choose to develop their names. I never did see parking potential with .mobi and I think we can all officially call that prospect D.O.A.

I plan on developing my health names, other than that, I'm more of an observer than anything else at this point. I'll watch carefully what happens over the next few months and reevaluate my position when the time comes.

Other than that, it's all good times. :snaphappy:
 
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Rubber Duck said:
Well the dot Mobis community has all the time in the World to spend on Hype. .
I dare challenge you, or 'anyone' to name one other registry that has done more to promote their tld., and one that has been more of a success in less than 2 years since launching!! And yes I say success and I mean 'to date', because .mobi's have sold more and for more on auctions etc, than any other 'new' tld has or did in it's same time frame. Just look at the DNJ ytd sales. Now you naysayers can gripe all you want on where .mobi is going, but dead it's not, and the challenge is 'name a more proactive registry to date'. (.com, .net and .org don't count either, as they were the originals and aren't actively promoted by their registries.)

Gripe all you want, but MTLD has done more to make their tld be successful, than .info, .biz, .eu, .us, etc. etc., 'combined'! And yes they've made changes, but if one doesn't recognize that changes are needed to be successful, well... as we've seen, you get an eternal war spinning out of control like 'Stay the Course W' gave us. So keep in mind, admitting you need to change your original plans is courageous and insightful, not the end of the world like some like dwell on. Whether one likes .mobi or not, whether they will be successful in the long run or not, I still see more benefits in backing a tld that is actively promoted by it's registry, than just buying any tld. and hope that maybe it'll catch on with the masses. .ASIA just got released, and there is controversary over names being scammed on already!! A company that actively promotes and markets it's product is by far the better place to invest than those that don't.

And let's not all forget too, domaining is not just flipping or selling one extension, it's about buying and selling what is hot and what others will/do buy. (No matter the extension!) Not trying to impress others that 'they know' what is a good or bad extension. It wouldn't surprise me that 75% of the 'extension experts' here have never had a $xx,xxxx sale, and a bunch more that never even hit a $x,xxx sale. But 'they know' what is good or bad. (Good grief, go flip some L-L-L-L-L-L's or hamburgers or 'whatevers'.)

Domaining is buying and selling, or investing in domain names and extensions one wishes to, NOT criticizing others with "My extension is better than your extension" childness.

There, I took my time out, now go tell us how great IDN's will be in 2, or 3, or 4, or 8 years or whenever. Either way I couldn't care less, because they're not for me, but I can guarantee you and others, I'll never criticize those that invest in them or other areas.



...and the band plays on..!:music:
 
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FYI Jeff, Scandiman, Hawkeye and others who post here are developing quite a bit, too, either alone or by contracting developers, but they aren't posting their developed names. Not everyone blows their own horn. They have posted legitimate news items, as well, and mjnels is proof that you don't have to be a seasoned domainer to succeed with this tld.

I understand your concerns about enforcement of the development requirements, and I am not privy to any of the legal agreements signed by individual domain name owners or mTLD. I have been told that it is being looked into, and at the moment that is the best I can do. I am staying out of it.

One thing I do know is that it takes time to build out a professional-looking site, especially if your webmaster doesn't know the intricacies of eliminating tables, flash, and iframes, compressing graphics into small file sizes, encoding, and designing for the smallest screen. I would believe some people are intentionally breaking the rules, but I personally give the benefit of the doubt to others who haven't found the right developer.

Not that I am expecting anyone to take me up on this, but for premium domain name owners reading this who haven't found the right developer, feel free to p.m. me as I do know quite a few of them who can produce excellent work for you. The web version of my blog, http://mobienthusiast.mobi has a link to a .mobi template site and I will be happy to let you know what you need to do to modify the files to help them score higher on ready.mobi.
 
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