The official .mobi, .asia, .IDN sucks thread

[soggyindo]

The official .mobi/ .asia/ .me/ .TV sucks thread

It seems every good thread these days gets filled with .mobi/ .asia/ .IDN/ .TV/ .us, debates. So here's a thread we can have at it! We can also refer people here if things get heated.



I'll start with a neutral statement:

WTF is the point of .mobi?

 

[jeremyp]

Jeff has been extremely effective at riling it up.

From the initial "concerned" posts of 2006 to the current multiple anti-mobi footers and "mobey" statements.

And, I think I can sum this up after taking a step back from the NamePros community.

It's just entertainment.

It's show biz.

Once I figured this out, I've been able to really enjoy Jeff.

He's funny!

Jeremy Padawer

 

[Jeff]

Subterfuge.

^ Hammer. Head. Nail.

PS. Exactly as I posted a couple of days ago in a very similar thread and "dot Mobey" discussion: :gl:

My educated guess is you'll now start to see some new "Press Releases" out of mTLD (and a new hype push drivel here on the forums) to try to buy it more time (and, as always, including GREED CASH), but in the end it will have no effect on this (.mobi) downward spiral, IMHO. :imho:

Caveat emptor, friends! :tri:
-Jeff

 

[Rubber Duck]

I believe 'ducky', this is your area of disillusion according to 'Master Condesending', and that you backed the wrong horse too!! He knows!!!

Frankly, I don't give a toss whether you lot manage to work it out or not. The point is you won't have the excuse that nobody told you afterwards.

I am in the process of transacting a few domains for a big chunk right now. I will probably have a dozen or so on the block in Paris and those will be at reasonable reserves because I had a cash quota I needed to meet. We have now met than and some, so frankly I probably wouldn't have even bothered to put up for Paris had I known.

Have I ever put domains up here for sale? How many of you even have much of a clue about what we are holding? We are not really in this to sale, we are simply holding on until the traffic arrives in droves, and my guess is that once the hype over IDN.IDN starts in Paris, we won't have long to wait.

But don't worry, I won't be able to spend much of my time humilating all those that missed out in public. There will be too many high profile names on my list to make mocking people here much of a diversionary activity.

Obviously top of my list will be Domain Muppet.

 

[davnin]

Jeff has been extremely effective at riling it up.

From the initial "concerned" posts of 2006 to the current multiple anti-mobi footers and "mobey" statements.

And, I think I can sum this up after taking a step back from the NamePros community.

It's just entertainment.

It's show biz.

Once I figured this out, I've been able to really enjoy Jeff.

He's funny!

Jeremy Padawer

I think that there is a lot of people who invested a lot of money buying domains with traditional TLD (com, net, org). So they are a bit worried that their market could decrease.
They attack all new TLDs and they consider like children people who pay 10 euros for each domains with the new TLD.
Jeff is one of these people, in effect he seems more like a spammer than a member of the staff or a "staff emeritus" :hehe:

 

[Rubber Duck]

I think that there is a lot of people who invested a lot of money buying domains with traditional TLD (com, net, org). So they are a bit worried that their market could decrease.
They attack all new TLDs and they consider like children people who pay 10 euros for each domains with the new TLD.
Jeff is one of these people, in effect he seems more like a spammer than a member of the staff :hehe:

Frankly, at times Child Abuse is a very good analogy. Greedy people are vulnerable people, and most come into this "Industry" on the promise of high profits. Like most Gold Rushes, for the majority, it always ends in tears. And many of those people making most of the money at the moment are those selling the shovels, not actually digging.

I am not saying it wrong to be ambitious, but I do think it is wrong to take people's money when you know they are not going to see it back ever.

 

[davnin]

Frankly, at times Child Abuse is a very good analogy. Greedy people are vulnerable people, and most come into this "Industry" on the promise of high profits. Like most Gold Rushes, for the majority, it always ends in tears. And many of those people making most of the money at the moment are those selling the shovels, not actually digging.

I am not saying it wrong to be ambitious, but I do think it is wrong to take people's money when you know they are not going to see it back ever.

you can say this to the people who invest thousands of euros for each domains, not in a generic way.
We can accept a reasonable risk in every market, and a few new domains represent a reasonable risk.

 

[Jeff]

.MOBI Agenda™ ...

Jeff is one of these people, in effect he seems more like a spammer than a member of the staff or a "staff emeritus" :hehe:

I've always shared my humble opinions freely, and posted pretty fluidly ... and we've been reading these types of personal attacks and attempts to discredit me (and others raising the SAME QUESTIONS of the "dot Mobey") since 2006 ... this is nothing new, IMHO.

What's as consistent as these attempts, though, are the concerted lack of ANSWERS and SUBSTANCE to the actual .mobi / mTLD topic at hand! :imho:

Why won't anyone adequately answer the questions raised here in the thread?
Tick. Tock.

-Jeff

 

[jeremyp]

I've always shared my humble opinions freely, and posted pretty fluidly ... and we've been reading these types of personal attacks and attempts to discredit me (and others raising the SAME QUESTIONS of the "dot Mobey") since 2006 ... this is nothing new, IMHO.

What's as consistent as these attempts, though, are the concerted lack of ANSWERS and SUBSTANCE to the actual .mobi / mTLD topic at hand! :imho:

Why won't anyone adequately answer the questions raised here in the thread?
Tick. Tock.

-Jeff

Hey Jeff,

We're just enjoying you.

Jeremy

 

[Jeff]

Hey Jeff,

We're just enjoying you.

Jeremy

^ I must have somehow struck a nerve in the heart of the "dot Mobey", welcome back Jeremy!

I know that you'll continue, as you always have, to attempt to discount and counter (and to paint an all "rosey" picture of the extension and its registry) my thoughts and opinions here, but I'm glad you've posted and you're enjoying your jollies ... more importantly, would you care to please address the mounting QUESTIONS and increasing CONCERNS that have been repeatedly raised regarding mTLD and the highly problematic "dot Mobey" extension at this time? :gl:

Regards.
-Jeff

 

[Sam]

IDNS will be popular...albiet IMO its going to be a looong adoption process.

All the IDNers are making a big mistake going with the .com instead of the local cctld.

Big, big mistake.

 

[seanboy]

Why won't anyone adequately answer the questions raised here in the thread?
Tick. Tock.

-Jeff

Why won't you answer my question? Who are these "usual suspects?"

Or should I write in a smaller font size for no apparent reason? Then maybe you would give me a reply?

 

[RJ]

Idea for one of the next domain conferences: lock all the IDN/MOBI/ASIA fanatics and haters in a cage together and let them slug it out. They would probably sell a ton of tickets for people to see that.

Let's get back down to Earth here. None of these domains deserve niches deserve to be sent to heaven or hell. (Ok, maybe .ASIA does.. j/k ) Both IDNs and MOBI have a usable purpose, and investing in either is highly speculative. Some people will make money, some people won't. That's the same for a lot of things.

 

[seanboy]

I'm interested in IDN's, but I don't know much about them. Is there a good resource site out there that anyone could recommend?

 

[RJ]

I'm interested in IDN's, but I don't know much about them. Is there a good resource site out there that anyone could recommend?

Basics at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internationalized_domain_name
Discuss at www.namepros.com/idn-discussion/ or www.idnforums.com

The hype around them is wearing off a bit, but there's still good fire-sale opportunities for native speakers of foreign languages to pick up names cheaply.

 

[Jeff]

No worries.

Fair enough, RJ ... I knew I wouldn't get any candor or honest answers from Jeremy, anyway! :imho:

Onward and upward, friends.
-Jeff

... but I'm glad you've posted and you're enjoying your jollies ... more importantly, would you care to please address the mounting QUESTIONS and increasing CONCERNS that have been repeatedly raised regarding mTLD and the highly problematic "dot Mobey" extension at this time?

 

[seanboy]

Basics at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internationalized_domain_name
Discuss at www.namepros.com/idn-discussion/ or www.idnforums.com

The hype around them is wearing off a bit, but there's still good fire-sale opportunities for native speakers of foreign languages to pick up names cheaply.

Cool. Thanks RJ

 

[mwzd]

TLDs where 'investments' have less chance of paying off than a ticket to the national lottery -

.ASIA
.MOBI
.ASIA
.NAME
.ASIA
.EU
.ASIA
.TK
.ASIA

Oh, and did I mention... .ASIA?

 

[Rubber Duck]

I'm interested in IDN's, but I don't know much about them. Is there a good resource site out there that anyone could recommend?

There are a couple of specialist forums that are worth visiting. One IDNForums.com is now effectively defunct, but there is a lot of useful content still accessible there. The other useful source is DNlocal.com.

Or you can just post questions in the IDN section on this forum and I or others from the community will attempt to give you the benefit of our experience.

The relationship between ccTLDs and dot Com is going to be an interesting one. It is not a question that has not been given any thought.

Basics at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internationalized_domain_name
Discuss at www.namepros.com/idn-discussion/ or www.idnforums.com

The hype around them is wearing off a bit, but there's still good fire-sale opportunities for native speakers of foreign languages to pick up names cheaply.

You are actually quite wrong on this. There has been very little mainstream news over the last six months but the hype is going start big time around the Paris Conference and will crescendo as news permiates the home markets of every major Asian country as the local Nics launch their IDN.IDN.

 

[coast]

What generic "dot Mobey" domains have been "sold" at Traffic (or Sedo) ... and are now fully developed "on the go" websites that are being used and promoted to the masses?
IYHO.

Thanks for the assist.
-Jeff

Please define "promoted to the masses." Masses in which country? Media buys in what markets?

 

[martina2061]

.com in itself has evolved as a ccTLD, it is just COMERICA!!