news The Domain Industry Is About To Change BIGTIME!!!

[daj]

The net could see its biggest transformation in decades if plans to open up the address system are passed.

The net's regulators will vote on Thursday to decide if the strict rules on so-called top level domain names, such as .com or .uk, can be relaxed.

If approved, it could allow companies to turn their brands into domain names while individuals could also carve out their own corner of the net.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7468855.stm

 

[Steven]

This is definitely not good for many domainers...

 

[james2002]

It is really interesting. .com domain prices might get affected due to this.

 

[Placer]

rush on .*** !

 

[james2002]

I think there will be lots of two word domains registered.

e.g

Whatever.business
Whatever.company etc....

 

[Seabass]

Who said there would be a dot ?

It could be just Coke as the domain.

They say in the article hundreds of new domain names could be invented but they never explicitly say extensions. Maybe just bad writing.

 

[whitebark]

ICANN gives far too many Internet users too much credit...

Anyone ever watch their parents/grandparents or other seniors surf the net? Most know .com and their cctld and little else. They barely understand how the extension correlates now, but to add these new types of domains will really confuse them, and as another NPer mentioned - will open the potential for a field day for phishing/scams.

 

[treebytheriver]

is this the icann project? http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-22jun08-en.htm

or am I totally off here? If thats the project, there is a way to publically post comments " Comments on the draft document are welcome via email at [email protected]. To be considered by the IDNC WG in Paris, any comments should be submitted by 23 June 2008. An archive of all comments received will be publicly posted at http://forum.icann.org/lists/idn-cctld-fast-track/

 

[Steven]

Who said there would be a dot ?

It could be just Coke as the domain.

True.

I haven't really thought of it that way.

LeviJeans, Coke, Pepsi, etc

 

[james2002]

Who said there would be a dot ?

It could be just Coke as the domain.

They say in the article hundreds of new domain names could be invented but they never explicitly say extensions. Maybe just bad writing.

Yes, i was thinking that way too. I had this idea a few weeks ago and I mentioned somewhere in this forum that if people can type without any .com , .net , .info etc..., it is the best domain.

It will definitely reduce price of .com .

 

[martinisky]

This smells like confusion and dilution to me. The more you dilute extension names it seems the more .com will remain king especially because people will be so confused with dots being placed everywhere..... And in fact i think it smells mostly of greed by icaan. Why would Coke need to have a .cola extension when they could have any website they want with *****.coke.com?

IMO the only real thing that will hurt .com would be if there was an extension that didnt have an extension! you want to go to Coke's website? Type in coke, thats it. no more need for .com .net .stupidextensionnamehere. But that will never happen because then they'd eventually run out of things to sell. Just like the fact that there have been lightbulbs that will burn basically forever but no one will release them because they want you to keep buying. They want you to buy it so it will burn out and you can buy it again. Strange analogy maybe but hopefully it makes my point. Consumption is what they want.

Either way the future of domaining and the net is going to be very intersting and i just hope the great group of people here in the namepros community can work together to take advantage of wherever the future may take us! Good luck to you all! I hope we can make some profits and have some fun together!

:wave:

 

[Steven]

I've seen steady growth of .com since the 90s.
Yes, .com is the king as it has been driven by many end users.
Ultimately, if a lot of end users revert to their own tld one by one with new end users using their own tld (not needing to buy .com for a high price from domainer or domain owner), what we may have is just domainer to domainer selling ... and we know how that will end up.
That is the main concern I have with this.

This smells like confusion and dilution to me. The more you dilute extension names it seems the more .com will remain king especially because people will be so confused with dots being placed everywhere..... And in fact i think it smells mostly of greed by icaan. Why would Coke need to have a .cola extension when they could have any website they want with *****.coke.com?

IMO the only real thing that will hurt .com would be if there was an extension that didnt have an extension! you want to go to Coke's website? Type in coke, thats it. no more need for .com .net .stupidextensionnamehere. But that will never happen because then they'd eventually run out of things to sell. Just like the fact that there have been lightbulbs that will burn basically forever but no one will release them because they want you to keep buying. They want you to buy it so it will burn out and you can buy it again. Strange analogy maybe but hopefully it makes my point. Consumption is what they want.

Either way the future of domaining and the net is going to be very intersting and i just hope the great group of people here in the namepros community can work together to take advantage of wherever the future may take us! Good luck to you all! I hope we can make some profits and have some fun together!

:wave:

 

[mwzd]

I think just the word without a tld was done a few years back by a company called RealNames...

Were no takers then... ahead of its time by a few decades at least...

Eventually... who knows... btw type coke in your browser and see what happens

 

[martinisky]

ahhh look at that! interesting! the more i thought about it the more that i realized that for billboards etc and advertisements (obviously except giant brands such as coke) you need a way to give out your internet address.... having a commercial for Bob's Burger Joint it needs to say BobsBurgerJoint.com somewhere so people know that in fact Bob does have an internet presence.. For smaller companies and more obscure names of companies, having a .com somewhere on their billboard/tv ad, etc does show that they are in fact online and helps distinguish the fact they have a website vs. not having an extension at all.... so maybe i am wrong... maybe extensions are need to justify that particular businesses are in fact online.

I think just the word without a tld was done a few years back by a company called RealNames...

Were no takers then... ahead of its time by a few decades at least...

Eventually... who knows... btw type coke in your browser and see what happens

 

[npcomplete]

This smells like confusion and dilution to me. The more you dilute extension names it seems the more .com will remain king especially because people will be so confused with dots being placed everywhere..... And in fact i think it smells mostly of greed by icaan. Why would Coke need to have a .cola extension when they could have any website they want with *****.coke.com?

IMO the only real thing that will hurt .com would be if there was an extension that didnt have an extension! you want to go to Coke's website? Type in coke, thats it. no more need for .com .net .stupidextensionnamehere. But that will never happen because then they'd eventually run out of things to sell. Just like the fact that there have been lightbulbs that will burn basically forever but no one will release them because they want you to keep buying. They want you to buy it so it will burn out and you can buy it again. Strange analogy maybe but hopefully it makes my point. Consumption is what they want.

Either way the future of domaining and the net is going to be very intersting and i just hope the great group of people here in the namepros community can work together to take advantage of wherever the future may take us! Good luck to you all! I hope we can make some profits and have some fun together!

:wave:

The dns system is by design a hierarchical distributed database. What that means is that during dns resolution, the process begins at the end with the implied "." (dot).

Try this experiment:

http://www.namepros.com./
http://www.namepros.com./domain-name-discussion/

Notice the "." after the com? That is the implied address of the root servers. Basically, the root servers (.) point to the tld servers for .com, .net, and all other .gtld and .cctld. Then the tld servers point to the second level domains, like namepros. This is done at higher levels of the namespace hierarchy too. So resolution goes like this:

. (find the root servers)
com (get com address from root servers)
namepros (get namepros address from the com tld server)
...etc...


This makes the dns system scalable, and ensures reasonable performance. Now suppose that we flatten the entire namespace and remove the hierarchy... i.e., suppose we just let http://coke resolve as-is. First of all, that is entirely possible, but not smart. I have even set up things like this in the "alternate root" for fun, and had alt-root tld's resolve to a web page. The reason that it is possible but "not smart" is that it would force a lot of traffic directly onto the root servers (a bad thing). It sounds nice, but the solution is not scalable.

 

[Hurley4540]

Interesting :o

 

[JAugusto]

Sell, Sell, Panic Sell

 

[treebytheriver]

Seriously, I think it's no reason to panic at all.

here's a couple other articles about it:
http://news.zdnet.co.uk/internet/0,1000000097,39437739,00.htm?r=5
http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/06/22/business/net23.php?page=1

 

[onlinedomains00]

Sell, Sell, Panic Sell

are you trying to be funny? serious topic

 

[domainar]

The original BBC article was a little vague.

Are we talking about coke being a domain name and extension all together (e.g. http:// coke)?

Or, coke making up their own extension (e.g. coca.cola)?

In the second case, how could one company "claim" one extension over another?

Would pepsi.cola also work? Or would coke own the .cola?

This is a little confusing; but probably seems more dire than it really is ...or

 

[Rob J]

ICANN gives far too many Internet users too much credit...

I don't think you give internet users enough credit. A whole generation of people already grew up with the internet and are having kids who are growing up inundated with technology. Most kids by age 10 have a laptop and a cell phone. Hell even the old people like my parents are getting the hang of it.

Maybe 10-15 years ago most people were naive newbies who thought websites always ended in .com, that not true anymore and becomes less true every day.