Hello People. Well the saying goes if something sounds too good to be true.... it usualy is.
I have been dealing with this guy for a few days now and something smelt a bit fishy.. so I googled his email address and.... oh look here you all are.
Well I'm not too sure what the scam is entirely yet.... I suspect he will want his 15% before I get my $15,000 but lets see. I'll post my corispondance so far as its easier than typing it all out... needless to say I won't be going any further. Cheers for the heads up.
---------- Post added at 04:33 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:09 PM ----------
OK Here's the email trail so far, I've taken out my details but the rest is as is, If you are all interested in me carring on and seeing where this leads to, let me know:-
Michael,
Like I said below,
Sedo.com
You Quote " So I accept real manual appraisals from trusted sources only"
Then point me to some 'here say' sources.
Sedo.com is a manual and trusted source.
Therefor if it takes 7 days then that’s what it takes - you are quite welcome to obtain your own appraisal but I will not be bullied into using a service that I know nothing about just to fast track a sale.
You start off asking me how much I wish to sell my domain for, I tell you.
You then you come back with an offer which far exceeds what I originally wanted...
I accepted, you then tell me that wasn't a real offer just a rough estimate until I get an appraisal. So I then order an appraisal at my cost and now you're telling me its not fast enough!
Look! The appraisal will take as long as it takes, if you're not willing to wait that long then you either take it at $15,000 or I will bid you good day and walk away.
Speaking of trusted sources, I did ask that you place todays date in the subject line to prove that I am talking to a real person. If you reply to me again would you please do so.
Regards
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Kogan [mailto:
[email protected]]
Sent: 27 October 2011 16:20
To:
Subject: Re: thedomaininquestion.com
3-7 days? Where did you order it. CDV has 24 hours delivery. I will not wait for 7 days
----- Original Message -----
From:
To: "Michael Kogan" <
[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 6:56 PM
Subject: RE: thedomaininquestion.com
OK No problems I have applied for one now so I'll wait to see what it says and come back to you.
I have already asked sedo.com as they are the company my host recommends and as I don't know these others .
As it's a manual service they say it will take 3-7days so I'll come back to you once I have the result.
Regards
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Kogan [mailto:
[email protected]]
Sent: 27 October 2011 15:21
To:
Subject: Re: thedomaininquestion.com
As a seller you should provide me with an appraisal first. This is a reasonable practice.
I've found not all the appraisals are accurate. So I accept real manual appraisals from trusted sources only.
I don't trust $14-$20 services. Nobody will do a research for $14. We need a real manual service.
As to the most known brands: the more orders the company gets, the less time they can afford to spend on each appraisal.
I wanted to use AccurateDomains.com or Afternic.com but looks like this company has a bad reputation. Afternic's appraisal service has a lot of bad reviews.
I was told about manual research service from
http://www.DomainMart.com. It costs - $200/hour.
Many experienced sellers suggested us
http://www.CertifieddomainValue.com/
as a trustworth manual service. They charge about 50 eur name not per hour.
We've read only positive comments about them. And I have my own positive experience with this company and their support.
----- Original Message -----
From:
To: "Michael Kogan" <
[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 5:46 PM
Subject: RE: thedomaininquestion.com
OK, I'm new to all this. I just thought if you make an offer and I accept it
then that was it.
I have now applied for the domain to be appraised with sedo.com whom I
believe to be a
reputable company to use.
Regards
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Kogan [mailto:
[email protected]]
Sent: 25 October 2011 22:18
To:
Subject: Re: thedomaininquestion.com
I see, but it's a standard practice to show independent valuation to
buyers/resellers. Nobody will do business without it. I'm a businessman and
have no intention of changing rules which help both parties to avoid
additional risks.
Of course, investors never take into account auto-generated valuations. So
manual valuation is a "must" too.
I read the following information about appraisals at
http://www.thenamepros.com/Archive/964725093.htm
Without the independent valuation from a trusted source we don't spend a
penny. This is our financial policy. So our offer is just a rought estimate.
If the appraisal comes higher we are ready to offer a bit more. If it comes
lower we will discuss the price with you again.
Thank you for understanding. I'm looking forward to doing business with you.
----- Original Message -----
From:
To: "Michael Kogan" <
[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 5:53 PM
Subject: RE: thedomaininquestion.com
Yes I would be happy to accept 15,000 USD for that domain.
No I've not had the domain evaluated but I'm happy to sell at 15,000 USD
less your 15% discount so £12750 and 50/50 escrow fee
Its just the domain, I had an idea for a site but I never got round to it...
so its now just a well-established domain.
I'm happy to use escrow.com, if you let me know the email address you wish
the escrow to use I'll set up the transaction now,
I also have the .co.uk would you be interested in making an offer on that as
well?
Just to be sure I'm not dealing with an automated response on your next
reply would you also please include todays date in the subject.
Regards
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Kogan [mailto:
[email protected]]
Sent: 25 October 2011 13:30
To:
Subject: Re: thedomaininquestion.com
What do you think about 15,000 USD for your domain name?
Have you had your domain names evaluated in the past? I mean domain
appraisals. Without valuation we cannot be sure in the sale price. It's very
important for me in terms of reselling too. But we must engage a valuation
company with REAL manual service. So I will only accept valuations from
independent sources I and my partners trust.
To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal
companies. Please check this blog with suggestions from other sellers and
buyers:
http://www.thenamepros.com/Archive/964725093.htm
Do you sell domain with a web site or just the name?
Domain without content is ok with me. Web site is not necessary.
If, for example, the valuation comes higher you can adjust your asking price
accordingly. It will be fair. I also hope you can give me 12% - 15%
discount.
After you send me the valuation via email (usually it takes 1-2 days to
obtain it) we'll continue our negotiations.
What is your preferred payment method: Escrow.com, International wire
transfer, PayPal.com or something else?
Hope we can come to an agreement fast.
Looking forward to your reply.
----- Original Message -----
From:
To: <
[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 3:25 PM
Subject: RE: thedomaininquestion.com
> Hello,
> My current portfolio of saleable domains are below,
> All domains are priced at GBP 2000 which at the moment works out at about
> USD 3196 or EUR 2295
> I will consider a reduces offer, especially when purchasing .co.uk and
> .com
> together
> All transferred will be done through sedo's escrow service.
>
> Regards
>
>
>
(I've removed the domains)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
[email protected] [mailto:
[email protected]]
> Sent: 23 October 2011 06:12
> To:
> Subject: re: thedomaininquestion.com
>
> Hello,
>
> We are interested in purchasing your domain name.
>
> Our company is in hosting and domain name business.
>
> Please email us your desired price in USD or euros for the domain name in
> the subject line.
>
> If you have other names for sale please email us your domains with prices.
>
> Looking forward to doing business with you.
>
> Regards,
>
> Michael Kogan
>
> President
>
> Name Investment Boutique LLC
> ========================================================
> NOTICE - This communication may contain confidential and privileged
> information that is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any
> viewing,
> copying or distribution of, or reliance on this message by unintended
> recipients is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in
> error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and
> deleting
> it from your computer.
> ========================================================
>
>
