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Admin have set my NP to -500 because somebody hacked a members account and sent me NP as a donation.

I think this is nasty as i had my hard earned NP removed and my score set to -500 and i done jack wrong.

Anywho.

I have to try earn 500 NP$ back just to get back to 0, Not going to sell anything, Whats the point, RJ will probably set me back to 500 again. :td:
 
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AfternicAfternic
actually I wouldn't spend it I would send it back to the guy(if he responed to my pm within 24 hours hehe)
 
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how did websoft get his account hacked?
 
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this whole ordeal set Psycho back 1000np$ and all he got was a domain reg
 
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:zzz:

today.. I won't believe anything. Today.. anything could be true!
 
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today send back 500 np to whoever sends it to you
 
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jroy said:
this whole ordeal set Psycho back 1000np$ and all he got was a domain reg

How do you figure he lost 1000NP$ in exchange for a reg - can you show us the math? From where I am, all that happened is that we took back the 506NP$ and gave it back to websoft.

We are of course studying the logs, and while we have determined that the NP$ "donation" probably wasn't websoft's doing, we haven't positively identified the culprit yet. We of course presume Psycho to be innocent until proven otherwise, which is why he has not been banned. This entire episode would have been kept discretely quiet to avoid tarnished reputations, except that Psycho decided to start this thread. That anyone would now want to stifle this discussion is unreasonable.

Indeed, as pointed out, what puts Psycho in a bad light is that the NP$ were stolen at 03:26 AM GMT, and he went ahead and started the thread where he bought a domain at 03:32 AM GMT, or six minutes after receipt of the NP$. He didn't bother to PM a simple thanks to acknowledge the "donation", nor find out what the "donation" was for. Just went right out and tried to spend it as if such mystery donations were normal everyday things.

Assuming Psycho were innocent, this incident shows bad judgment on his part.
 
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daughterofeve said:
:zzz:

today.. I won't believe anything. Today.. anything could be true!

:lol:

majinbuu1023 said:
today send back 500 np to whoever sends it to you

:lol:
 
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I didn't hack websoft, and i don't know why i should be down all of my NP and more for being a victim.
 
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snoopi said:
wow.. that did rhyme, didn't it!
But, it's true, if i don't believe or disbelieve anything today, i can't be tricked!

..Or can I?
 
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armstrong said:
How do you figure he lost 1000NP$ in exchange for a reg - can you show us the math? From where I am, all that happened is that we took back the 506NP$ and gave it back to websoft.
oh, i get it now, i thought psyco bought the np$
 
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Psycho said:
I didn't hack websoft, and i don't know why i should be down all of my NP and more for being a victim.

What NP$ are you down? I wasn't going to pursue this issue beyond returning the stolen NP$, but since you made this thread and continue to try to push this on us I just might.

Let's see if I have this timeline correct.

Websoft added Psycho to his MSN list and soon thereafter started receiving hack attempts through MSN and his NamePros password is compromised.

Shortly thereafter, "someone" logs into websoft's account and transfers all of his NP$ (506 NP$) to Psycho.

Six minutes later, Psycho is trying to find someone to sell him a new registration and within the hour he's purchased a new domain registration for 550 NP$.

Logs can prove if someone was using the same computer or not. I'm going to dig in and see what they say.
 
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By the way, Psycho, please do not try to sell the domain involved in this incident - eliteneo.com - until this matter has been completely settled.
 
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lmao..all this for THAT domain?

ohhh man.. what a waste o.0
 
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I believe it is completely fair.

Psycho should have atleast PM'd websoft asking why he was given the NP$ instead of getting so excited and purchasing a domain registration. A negative amount of NP$ serves him right

EDIT:

Hmmm maybe Psycho was the one that hacked Websoft.. don't you think its obvious...
 
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Hmmm maybe Psycho was the one that hacked Websoft.. don't you think its obvious...

The force is strong in this one.
 
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I once send 1200.00 NP$ to Dillpup by Mistake few days back.

And he Being a :great: asked me what they were for and returned the NP$ before even i could send a reason.. Even for a small amount it was a Great ACt from his side..

I dont think Normally people here would keep others money which they did not earn. and sepnding it in next hour shows something fishy..

Hope admins get to its root...
 
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majinbuu1023 said:
a bit unfair on physco as he did not know why some random person sent him 506 np...
Well, then you have 3 options: Send a PM asking why the NP$ were recived, send the NP$ back or take contact with an administrator.. and he chose to spend 'em.. wrong!
 
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This is weird. A couple of days ago Psycho hit me up on AIM and asked how to use a proxy from my site (proxylist.us), I asked why and he said "I was banned on a forum and am going to unban myself," or something to that wording. I didn't explain how, but it's a pretty big coincidence.

Now, I'm not saying it was Psycho, just saying what happened to me and people can decide themselves. Unfortunately, I don't have the logs anymore, since (as RJ knows) I've been having Windows problems and have formatted quite a few times over the last week.
 
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I definitely feel the same way as optimist. It's just the right thing to do to verify any NP$ that you didn't know were coming, especially before you spend them. I've had a couple of such incidents and always returned the NP$ to the person if it was in error, whether it was 10NP$ or 100NP$.

I'm very glad to see that NP respects it's members enough to look into these things and recover the lost NP$ for websoft. Whether Psycho did it or not (and I have to say the evidence looks pretty bad), the fact the admin spent a great deal of time in getting to the bottom of things shows a lot of caring on their part. Most sites wouldn't bother.

Even if Psycho is a victim as he says, that is standard procedure for any business. If you get stolen merchandise, even if you bought it with a bill of sale and are completely innocent, the merchandise is confiscated. NP did exactly that and returned it to the rightful owner. Whether it's fair or not does not come into play. We were in the flea market business back in my younger days, and I saw this scenario a few times. People bought an item for 100's only to find out the next day that it was stolen when the police came looking for it. They didn't go to jail (because they bought it without knowing), but they lost the merchandise and the money. The lesson here is to make sure that the NP$ you get for something you didn't know are legit and if they aren't, to return it, not spend it in the next 5 minutes, which makes it sound suspicious indeed.
 
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Petter said:
Well, then you have 3 options: Send a PM asking why the NP$ were recived, send the NP$ back or take contact with an administrator.. and he chose to spend 'em.. wrong!

Ditto!

As many know, I have "given away" many a $NP in my time. NEVER has a single person NOT replied and asked why or at least a thank you. Even when I usually fill in a good explanation in the reason section. It's kind of like finding money on the ground, you look for the owner. :imho:

On that note:
RapidJeff...You dropped you wallet in all your haste to "Post and Run" I picked it up, but there was nothing in it. :-/

err....Pay no attention to my NamePros/Enom account. :notme:
 
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