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STATE OF THE NEW G'S - After nearly 3 years of the New G's, are they where they should be?

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  • No, they remain behind schedule

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  • Yes, they are continuing to progress

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The current STATE OF THE NEW G'S is good!...or is it?

After nearly 3 years into the introduction of New G's there remains:
* Very low 'End User' usage
* Very little aftermarket activity
* Declining inquiries
* Inconsistent registry changes affecting drops, renewals and pricing
* Little to none public awareness

In conclusion, the current STATE OF THE NEW G'S is not good.

(Disclaimer: I am a proponent and investor of New G's, but I tend to have a REALIST view of things)
 
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But if there are 20-24 million aftermarket nTLDs, where are the four thousand WEEKLY nTLD sales on DNJ?

Good point - if we have 110 million .coms compared to 25 million gTLDs then we should see about 20% gTLDs aftermarket sales, forgetting value just volume. Unsustainable
 
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There will be one off sales where registries did not price some keyword as premium that actually made sense and did not have some ridiculous renewal. But if you look at the swelling registration stats and assume at least 80% perhaps 90% of nTLDs are domainer held, obviously we do not have enough aftermarket activity to pay renewals. Again, 1% turn with $10 renewals and 20% marketplace commissions needs a $1250 sale to breakeven. Many nTLDs have higher renewals. But if there are 20-24 million aftermarket nTLDs, where are the four thousand WEEKLY nTLD sales on DNJ?

OR develop some nTLDs to pay for renewals
 
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I believe in long-term investments but not those that materialize long after your death :xf.smile:

As Fancy.domains proved, they materialize very much in short time.
 
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I believe in long-term investments but not those that materialize long after your death :xf.smile:

Kate, read my Facebook wall and you'll learn how to live forever.

Adrian Andreiadis
 
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Remember .Mobi success?

no?

Let's create thousands of new extensions that nobody wants!


IMO there is only room for 5 top SHORT tlds... In a mobile world we need SHORT domains! only short tlds can survive..
 
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Remember .Mobi success?

no?

Let's create thousands of new extensions that nobody wants!


IMO there is only room for 5 top SHORT tlds... In a mobile world we need SHORT domains! only short tlds can survive..
Plenty of options before this dump of extensions. See you have Xavier.xyz, only seen one website with .xyz in the real world, it was a pop up redirect I immediately panicked and closed it down thinking it could be nasty. #nastydomains will be everyones experience with xyz; same with the rest of the whoring freeminimum ntlds
 
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Plenty of options before this dump of extensions. See you have Xavier.xyz, only seen one website with .xyz in the real world, it was a pop up redirect I immediately panicked and closed it down thinking it could be nasty. #nastydomains will be everyones experience with xyz; same with the rest of the whoring freeminimum ntlds

I have seen more .xyz site than any other ngtlds

https://gen.xyz/live
 
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There will be one off sales where registries did not price some keyword as premium that actually made sense and did not have some ridiculous renewal. But if you look at the swelling registration stats and assume at least 80% perhaps 90% of nTLDs are domainer held, obviously we do not have enough aftermarket activity to pay renewals. Again, 1% turn with $10 renewals and 20% marketplace commissions needs a $1250 sale to breakeven. Many nTLDs have higher renewals. But if there are 20-24 million aftermarket nTLDs, where are the four thousand WEEKLY nTLD sales on DNJ?
Good points.
A mistake is assuming an instant aftermarket. Aftermarkets have 3 components. Users + Investors + Time. As you pointed out there is no aftermarket. The legacy "aftermarket" didn't exist for 15+ years after launch. It won't take as long for the New "G"s
simply because the foundation exists.

"1% turn with $10 renewals and 20% marketplace commissions needs a $1250 sale to break even."
That only addresses one type of investor.
If that's the market you invest in and assume how long of a hold?
A lot of "investors" flip fast for much less cost and a decent profit.
"investors" in the middle risk the time factor of the aftermarket that is more in line with your cost suggestion.
An even smaller pool of "investors" play the long view.
It wasn't that long ago when number domains were worthless until china showed up yet "investors" paid 10-15+ years reg fees on "worthless domains" at the buy.

With parking revenues dead, slow churn for mid range domains, investors may have to do more as TopShelfDomains and others have suggested develop, or be willing to pay for the wait.
Most high profile sales have significant hold times associated. So it's going to cost more in today's market. Factor it in and decide if it's worth the risk.

" Many nTLDs have higher renewals".

Seriously misleading. I can say with near certainty 90% of the 20+ million New "G"s don't have reg fees higher than 100.00 and "many" are within the same range of country code tlds. 15-30.
reg fees for legacies were at 100 at one time too. There is nothing wrong with testing the market for price resistance points. In fact lowering reg fees for legacies is what helped fuel today's aftermarket. YES?
More stable consistent pricing will come with time.
The profit is in the initial buy. It's rare to be able to purchase 10-15 years later a now valuable domain for even close to 10x reg. fee.
Yes the cost is going to be higher just like everything else on the planet.

Huston.com is an example of producing income with minimal development. It may be even more profitable than an outright sale over time.

With all of the changing developments around domains what is clear: It's no longer a "passive" endeavor,.

Happy Hunting
 
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The G's are not new how is .biz, .us, .co, .name, .info doing.

I can get some amazing names in .co, only crappy thing is nobody wants them, and I have to pay $25 to renew them.

I had an small business make a play for a nice .com, the .co was available, I asked him why he doesn't just take that as he was at like $500, which was not going to happen, he says he only wants .com, so there you have it. Majority of end users are more willing to deviate for something .com, than hit their bang on keyword in something else.

#NotWorkingForTheRegistries
 
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The G's are not new how is .biz, .us, .co, .name, .info doing.

I can get some amazing names in .co, only crappy thing is nobody wants them, and I have to pay $25 to renew them.

I had an small business make a play for a nice .com, the .co was available, I asked him why he doesn't just take that as he was at like $500, which was not going to happen, he says he only wants .com, so there you have it. Majority of end users are more willing to deviate for something .com, than hit their bang on keyword in something else.

#NotWorkingForTheRegistries

.biz .info. name .us are just as crappy as some of the New "G"s. What kind of business is built on these? Very low potential/profit. That's why they suck as an investment regardless of the killer keyword.
End users are adopting cc's and New "G"s much faster and for high profit/profile businesses than those examples ever will.

In my market .co is being used much more than ever along with io for high profit/profile businesses that would never consider .biz etc. New "G"s too are getting more attention for actual use.
I have many .co's with no current interest. I'm willing to wait 10-15 yrs as most are 3-5c. It's a ubiquitous shorty worth the spec.

End users insisting on only the .com vs anything else are becoming the minority in my queries. Most of my queries for .com come from investors not end users. Just because they have been groomed doesn't make it a good business or financial decision. The customer is always right!


Example : advertisingagency/com at NamesCon auction right now. A 17 character domain/2 keyword, high bid is 50k!
The bidder has a highly profitable business plan? Or maybe another buyer willing to pay more just because ? Brandable? no.
There are so many free resources for advertisingagency. Where's the beef? it is most likely a dumb decision paying up for a domain just because.

Example: After presenting the upcoming options/changes in domains to a client a few years back , they went out and acquired their own extension ! Wasn't expecting that :)

Example: After investing in New"G"s I didn't expect to get any unsolicited queries. I play long. Yet I have had many queries for ubiquitous keyword extensions in the xxxx low-mid. Very few of my cc's or coms START at xxxx offers. Didn't expect that !

I suppose it depends on where you position yourself in the market on what kind of queries/clients you get.

Happy Hunting
 
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