Sorry, but I feel like expressing myself

[Dave]

Hello,

Lately I have been thinking an awful a lot about this domain industry and the people involved in it. No offense but some of you seem like the sort of people who just sit on their backside throwing around massive wads of cash around for your lll.coms and your cvcv.coms like theres no tommorow, and for what? To earn more money? How many of you even develop your domains? I sometimes feel that most of you people have become obsessed with greed and forget about what it means to work hard to produce something for your domains and help contribute towards the internet.

Speaking of hard work how many of you actually have or had jobs doing the nitty gritty work? Getting stuck in with some elbow grease? Or have you been spoon fed most of your life and think money is all that matters? I come from a poor family and I appreciate how its taught me to stand on my own two foot and never be a couch potato. My dad passed away two years ago when I was 18 and I am determined to strive forwards in life putting dedication and spirit into what I do. What is money? Doesn't it just cause greed? Doesn't it just make us forget about the finer things in life?

Whatever happened to good old fashioned hard work and being united to strive towards better things. I don't just mean in this industry or the internet, I mean generally all over the world. I have worked in dockyards, labouring, been to college/uni and each day I continue struggling against demons of my past. Thank god because despite all this its turned me into a smart, generous and kind individual.

Everyone is always so rash to blame their Governments for the terrible things that happen in this world, and while they are partly to blame, we all have to share the blame some way or another. Nowadays people are so paranoid and stressful about every detail of life it seems everyone is slowly giving up.

The problem with this world is people say one thing and do another. Where do you stand in all this? Are you a truly hard worker or do you need to get off your high horse for a while and come back down to planet earth.

 

[unclewalter]

Domaining isn't necessarily development. If you buy a domain and plan on reselling it why develop it when eventually your work on the site will be gone. Also many people have a pretty big portfolio and not enough time to develop them. Also I'm pretty sure most people on this forum are full time domainers, most have jobs or school.

 

[firefly]

So your about twenty, I take it.

I've had elbow grease coming out the wazoo for twenty years. I still work as a commercial printer and I have pilled up some extraordinary hours in my time (once worked 3 days straight, night and day). Is that enough elbow grease for you?

I also come from a background of lesser means, so your not Robinson Crusoe there by any means. I'll tell you something, when you you have 4 children and you have to provide for them while keeping a roof over their heads, money is important and only a twenty year old without true responsibility could say otherwise. You assume far too much.

As for what I do with my domains, what business is it of yours? I do tend to agree that more names should be developed but to attack people for trying to make a living or just some extra cash, because you don't like the way they do it is extraordinary.

Go get some more life experience and come back and look at your post. You'll be amazed at how your thinking might have changed.

BTW...I am sorry for your loss.

 

[Dave]

Sorry I didn't mean no offense by my post. I wasn't personally taking a dig at anyone here but I am sure some of us feel like this from time. I do know the importance of money mate, I have lived in my own house, paid my own bills. That wasn't really the point I was getting at. I just used the domain industry as an example to try relating to a common perspective shared by people all over the world and I just felt like expressing it here.

I am directing more towards those who are spoon fed with money or sponge of the system and don't work even though they are capable of doing so. There are more and more teenagers hanging on street corners, getting pregnant at young age and not doing anything in life. Doesn't this worry you too? The more this continues to happen won't society just diminish further?

My first post was a very poor example of what I was trying to get at and I seem to of lost all sense of direction by going off into a rant. Apologies.

 

[firefly]

Of course I worry about the world in general. I worry that the future seems to be less bright for my own children. But I teach them the right way and hope they can follow it through life. Whether they do or don't is beyond my control past a certain point.

The get rich mentality that you are alluding to though is firmly entrenched in todays society unfortunately. Sad but true. The more enlightened can try to change these people's thinking but it's too far ingrained. Do nothing or very little and somehow make money from it. It's going to take a lot to change that type of thinking.

Maybe with more young people thinking like you, it will change. I can only hope.

 

[liquidcherry]

Hey Dave....don't feel sorry for your rant or your questioning about the purpose....(and i am not joel osteen even i sound likehim right now lol)....first of all, Dave didn't question all of you, your personal goals, believes, journeys....he is/was just frustated with his own struggle he is facing...and guess what....90% of us are feeling the same....

xxfire, i looked at your first reply and i was thinking...?....but the second one was right on.....

Let's have peace all togheter, we are a community!!



(And with members like you guys we wll achieve it!!)

Cheers,

Frank

 

[firefly]

Hey Frank...My first reply was to what both Dave and myself have both agreed via PM , was a poorly worded post.

We understand each other a lot better as of now, and have found common ground. I agree with what he was trying to get at, and eventually did.

I think it's this industry that does funny thing to your mind

 

[liquidcherry]

Thx Jason, there will always be space to make up(not make out lol).....it is just not enough time in our existense to have a beef/fight/argument about tings wha dont matter ...right?.........i am glad u figured it out......

Cheers,

Frank

 

[firefly]

LOL... make love not war...right!?

 

[-Alex-]

LOL... make love not war...right!?

Speaking of love and war....


http://youtube.com/watch?v=jEOkxRLzBf0


(not my vid)

 

[DN BROKER]

Domaining is not FOR SHORT TERM NOOBS - its a long term investment! Developing may sound easy.. but in most cases 99.99% fail!

Buying and flipping Domains is very profitable.. only when you got the BIG WALLET....

You either got Game or You DON'T!

SOLD! :D

 

[liquidcherry]

LOL... make love not war...right!?

LOOOOL, make love during war??

Cheers,

Frank

 

[.X.]

For full time domainers, there isn't a bunch of sitting around, It is hard work mentally. I was extremely close to quitting my job and being a full time domainer in November 2007, there is far more to it, than meets the eye.

I work a 40 hour a week job, Doing customer service.

Domaining is not FOR SHORT TERM NOOBS - its a long term investment! Developing may sound easy.. but in most cases 99.99% fail!

Buying and flipping Domains is very profitable.. only when you got the BIG WALLET....

You either got Game or You DON'T!

SOLD! :D

I would venture to say, the success ratio, for a FULL time domainer is about 5% to 7% of all domainers. That means people who make a full time living doing it.

 

[bgmv]

Listen man you think your the only person out there whos had a hard job and grown up in a tough environment? Im sure there are hundreds of us at NP who share those same experiences day in and day out.

Development takes time, something I dont have. I make more money flipping LLLL.com and .net than I would via development. How I make my money doesnt really matter, as long as im making it.

 

[.X.]

Listen man you think your the only person out there whos had a hard job and grown up in a tough environment? Im sure there are hundreds of us at NP who share those same experiences day in and day out.

Development takes time, something I dont have. I make more money flipping LLLL.com and .net than I would via development. How I make my money doesnt really matter, as long as im making it.

This thread is really not unusual, of how a lot of domainers feel, frustration sets in when they do achieve success in the industry, I have heard many start flaming hard over the years.

Not that many really achieve success in the industry, compared to how many domainers their are these days. The i feel about it, whatever works for a person, what makes them happy, rather it be flipping domains, parking, development and ect. that is what they need to do, what makes them happy, and feel achievement.

I haven't made it, I was very close, but close only counts in horse shoes. I have made some money, nothing spectacular, I make money every month domaining, but just enough to make a decent second income.

It's extremely tough in the trenches in this industry, the main thing that needs focus, you have to enjoy domaining, just enjoy it and have fun, the rest either comes or does not come, with time.

 

[weblord]

I worked hard all the time, being at my 40 ive been there done that, i started at the very lowest in the computer industry being an encoder and a runner on a printing press, you really get your elbow "greased" in the literal way, but all in the motive of learning the trade, then I became a graphic artist working with coreldraw 1 to design cctv video layout and stuffs, then promoted to international sales manager, where I do most of the time talk and present cctv video layouts and functionalities that I designed before. then came the offer to be ceo of weblord, inc. then learned from British supplier that my partner is cheating on me so I end up the partnership and now working alone, started to promote affiliate programs on the internet and this so called domaining I'm just starting to learn since I joined namepros.com

the status and money that I have today came from hard work and learning and learning about the trade, like I posted before Im not a domainer but a service provider for domainers.

Yeah and the future, believe God's Words I've thought about the future up to New Heavens and New Earth, most probably places you have not thought of before.

Apart from God I am nothing but with Christ, I can do everything.
All by the grace of God, I am what I am!

 

[kev]

There are a few valid points here.

Although domaining isnt physically tiring, its mentally tiring. You have to think outside the box in everything that you do in order to succeed and this can take its toll.

Im 19 and Ive only ever worked for a summer at McDonalds when I was 16. Since then, Ive been working for myself. Serving burger and chips was a real eye opener and made me think "Im gonna make something of myself", as I never want to end up working in a place like it again.

Its also something that sets you amongst the crowd. I was out on Saturday night and 2 random people came up to me and said "Your that domainer guy aren't ya" which is kinda fun :hehe:

 

[Kate]

Although domaining isnt physically tiring, its mentally tiring. You have to think outside the box in everything that you do in order to succeed and this can take its toll.

Yay. The people who think domainers are lazy and it's easy game should join the fun and see for themselves

 

[bobdigital]

some people do not want to buy "developed " names.
they want to do everything from scratch.

so by developing just a little, could actually hurt a potential sale.

 

[.X.]

Yay. The people who think domainers are lazy and it's easy game should join the fun and see for themselves

Werd, It is like trading on the stock market, It can become very mentally exhausting, a person can loose a big sale in a matter of seconds. things change by the day, you have to act quick, or get lost in the herd.