SEO vs. PR

[shockie]

from what i've been reading recently, it seems that PR plays a much more important role in ranking high in search engines. has this always been true / is it even true?

btw, by seo i'm talking about choosing the right keywords etc.

 

[Keral_Patel]

PR plays some role in ranking high in search engines.

For keyword choosing I think it is the most important point of SEO. When you choose a keyword you have to decide at that very moment how much effort you are willing to put in for the off page SEO.

Choosing a most premium keyword can sometimes land you in sandbox. To get out of sandbox you have to prove that the site is worthy enough.

On the other hand you can choose a medium keyword and settle with less competition and less traffic.

The trick is to find the suitable keyword with less competition and more search volume.

Just some opinions from my side

 

[YesBrilliant]

PR plays some role in ranking high in search engines.

For keyword choosing I think it is the most important point of SEO.

That is what I think, too.

You can see a number of examples.

Just having a high PR will Not necessarily place you at the top.

A good SEO will.

 

[Ultimatum]

Some webmasres expand PR for sale links from their sites. I think that better get good positions in SERP with PR=0 than have bad positions with Pr=6
IMO

 

[markhanrry]

i am not getting position and ranking anything. what should people like me do.

 

[enlytend]

PR is an end result of SEO (since seo involves more than just keywords) .

Toolbar page rank is a static snapshot of a number of factors that is updated every 90 days or so. It's a Google measurement and has nothing to do with other engine search results.

Google also maintains an internal PageRank which is constantly changing - there is no way to know that is, or the "secret sauce" which produces it (unless you're a G. engineer) and there's controversy as to whether what is shown in the toolbar includes ALL the factors used in their internal ranking system.

Interlinking (number, relevance and quality of links to and from the page) plays a huge role in determining toolbar page rank - I've seen new pages with just one strong, mid-PR inbound link pick up similar page rank on the first update (i.e. one PR6 link producing a PR5 page). This is of course assuming there are no conflicting elements to devalue that page (keyword spam, linking to "bad neighborhoods", etc.)...

SERPS placements involve many factors. Since TBPR is a static value, its impossible to have it be a constant influence across a variety of searches since any given page is more relevant for some querys than for others. The page could be #1 for one term and number 30,001 for another.

If you look at actual search results for a bunch of keywords, they're very unlikely to be in (toolbar) pagerank order.

i am not getting position and ranking anything. what should people like me do.

How new is your site? Are there links to it? It can take a while for new sites to show up in G. and Yahoo, MSN is faster. Aside from that, reasons for not getting indexed vary. If you're using a domain which was ever associated with spam or blacklisted for other reasons you may have to submit a re-inclusion request - even if a previous domain owner was the culprit (always check the history before buying expired domains!).

 

[shockie]

On the other hand you can choose a medium keyword and settle with less competition and less traffic.

it seems that i've settled for this: a medium keyword with (in my opinion), not enough traffic!!! :P

If you look at actual search results for a bunch of keywords, they're very unlikely to be in (toolbar) pagerank order.

true true, but they do seem to have a decent tbpr. hopefully i'll get a decent tbpr in the next update (i have a link from a pr3, pr4, and pr7).

my new website is already placed on the first page of the serps of yahoo, altavista, alltheweb, and possibly a few others - using a somewhat decent search query. now i'm just waiting to show up on google. thanks for the replies - rep added .

 

[DropLister]

I think pr is more importance when it comes to links to you. PR is like how trusted that site is, or how trusted it is by other websites through links. If a high pr site links to you with a certain anchor text thats a big vote in your favor.

 

[Waiter]

Hello guys
I think that PR as important as SEO. If you are going to make good SEO - you will get good PR results and vice versa.