.tv Selling .tv domains to enduser

[donnied79]

Hi guys,
I'd like to hear your opinion, experiences etc. about selling .tv domains to endusers.
For example I've read the thread in the main section many times and I'd like to know if you apply the same strategy you use with .com etc to get the contact list or if you do something different.
Another thing is that after Goldrush/Landrush many of us owns great keyword.tv domains with (finally) standard renewal fee and we all hope to get X.XXX or XX.XXX sale on that.
How do you approach endusers for that kind of domains?
I'm very interested to hear what you have to say.
Thanks!!

 

[garptrader]

I made an attempt at end user marketing several months ago with no luck and doubt the end user market has changed much in that time. My advice would be to only market really high-end domains and be realistic with price expectations. As far as approach, the same as with a .COM.

 

[Jeff]

It would be GREAT to see a member list of successful sales (and smooth negotiating advice/tips) of .TV's to End users ... who have gone on to uniquely develop and promote their new video-centric .TV websites! :yell: :imho:

Thanks kindly,
Jeff

 

[garptrader]

Note I haven't had much luck with email marketing for .COM domains either Even if the target company has a %^$#&*@! domain sometimes that may be an indication they have no interest in spending more than reg fee for a domain.

 

[Jeff]

Over 10+/+ years, I've seen little evidence of successful sales of .TV's to End users ... perhaps the "new pricing" scheme of having NO MORE hefty annual renewal fees will provide an (new) opportunity to sell more developable ".TV's" to these folks? :blink:
Please discuss.

All the best,
Jeff

 

[DU]

Please discuss.

All the best,
Jeff

May I suggest you start your own thread if you wish to have a discussion.
This thread already has a purpose.

From looking around NP there seems to be a number of factors on who is good at finding end users. The most common factors that I seem to have observed is:

(1) They spend more time doing it

(2) They are in an industry more closely tied to knowing what people want (such as web hosting/development). This is not always the case.

(3) There's a difference between a domain that "seems" good and "is" good and I think sometimes it just takes an experienced eye.

(4) It seems that people recommend options OTHER than e-mail (fax is popular)

(5) Don't hide your whois behind privacy. Transparency is the new in thing in business and I'm sure it applies to domaining too. Alternative whois information is fine.

(6) A lot of domainers consider the business a loner business and the rules of engagement are such they they don't really like to "share" too much.


I wish someone would tell me how to do it because I'd like to apply it towards a job search. I don't think the two things are that far removed in terms of finding the right people and saying the right things.

I will say that these are merely my observations and not based on any facts. If nothing else I thought they might serve as a basis for discussion as in Right... Wrong.

 

[MrRhee]

May I suggest you start your own thread if you wish to have a discussion.
This thread already has a purpose.

From looking around NP there seems to be a number of factors on who is good at finding end users. The most common factors that I seem to have observed is:

(1) They spend more time doing it

(2) They are in an industry more closely tied to knowing what people want (such as web hosting/development). This is not always the case.

(3) There's a difference between a domain that "seems" good and "is" good and I think sometimes it just takes an experienced eye.

(4) It seems that people recommend options OTHER than e-mail (fax is popular)

(5) Don't hide your whois behind privacy. Transparency is the new in thing in business and I'm sure it applies to domaining too. Alternative whois information is fine.

(6) A lot of domainers consider the business a loner business and the rules of engagement are such they they don't really like to "share" too much.


I wish someone would tell me how to do it because I'd like to apply it towards a job search. I don't think the two things are that far removed in terms of finding the right people and saying the right things.

I will say that these are merely my observations and not based on any facts. If nothing else I thought they might serve as a basis for discussion as in Right... Wrong.

IMHO, FAX is an unsuccessful, if not often times illegal, method.
Fax Advertising: What You Need to Know
Obviously, if you have an EBR (“established business relationship”) and the enduser is expecting/inviting the fax, then it may augment your chances of closing a sale.

What works best for me: Phone calls.
though, your mileage may vary.

Most importantly, read all the books, blogs and sites you can that deal with mastering the "art of negotiation". If you don't do this first, you'll never be able to know when/how a $7 offer can turn into a 7 figure offer.

good luck.

 

[DU]

IMHO, FAX is an unsuccessful, if not often times illegal, method.
Fax Advertising: What You Need to Know
Obviously, if you have an EBR (“established business relationship”) and the enduser is expecting/inviting the fax, then it may augment your chances of closing a sale.

Well that's good to know!

Thanks! Sometimes it's good to post errors... it's all valuable input.

 

[donnied79]

Most importantly, read all the books, blogs and sites you can that deal with mastering the "art of negotiation". If you don't do this first, you'll never be able to know when/how a $7 offer can turn into a 7 figure offer.

good luck.

In the company I work for I'm used to negotiate 7 figures contracts with banks etc..
But what I'm missing here is how to get in contact with endusers for big domains.
Let's make an example, assume that I own Sport.tv (that's not the case).
I obviously want to get at least XX.XXX from it.
How should I move?
Thanks to everyone.

 

[Ammudamus]

Have you contacted advertisers for your specific generic name on Google? They are already spending dollars on your keyword. It would be in their best interest to acquire your name.

Best,
A

In the company I work for I'm used to negotiate 7 figures contracts with banks etc..
But what I'm missing here is how to get in contact with endusers for big domains.
Let's make an example, assume that I own Sport.tv (that's not the case).
I obviously want to get at least XX.XXX from it.
How should I move?
Thanks to everyone.

 

[twomoon]

In my work, I'm trying to contact endusers only via e-mail. I'm using very simple template (the same as for other extensions).
Never had xx.xxx sales at all (not only to endusers) and can't imagine how to sell the domain for 5 figures to an Enduser. But in my opinion, to sell the domain for xx xxx to an enduser you need to reach an enduser by phone, OR to choose a passive position and to wait for a right enduser to contact you first.
I have only few domains I think worth xx xxx (it's only my opinion), so I'm waiting for a right enduser
Maybe it's a bad position but if I'll call somebody by phone, it would be total fiasco lol

I'm not a big guy, I don't have much money to invest, so I'm working in xxx - low xxxx range. I'm trying to sell low - mid quality domains. I like this strategy, cause ROI is the most important thing.

P.S. In the main sections in thread - How to find potential endusers - there is one guy - Josh. He is a king of flipping domains to endusers. His words like gold I've read a lot of his advices and learned many things.

 

[b2b]

I like this strategy, cause ROI is the most important thing.

I like this strategy too! And this definitely shows on your current sales!

 

[RogueWriter]

ThomasNet®

Thousands of legitimate corporations, basically all of the manufacturers, and distributors of note in the U.S., find the niche you need, start calling, I'd even follow up with a written letter.

 

[twomoon]

ThomasNet®

Thousands of legitimate corporations, basically all of the manufacturers, and distributors of note in the U.S., find the niche you need, start calling, I'd even follow up with a written letter.

Thanks for the link! Repped


Thank you b2b also

 

[freedom30]

donnied79...

you don't need a valuation from me or anyone else for your name. I think you asked for the how-to's of marketing...that is, getting the availability of your name visible to prospective customers.

There are a lot of ways to advertise your product or at least make it visible to those endusers.

One way that is rather simple is an email sent personally to each party you think may be interested in your name.

Number one think to do is do not batch email addressees, make 'em separate and do not put links in the message. They know your email address that you used and links may be filtered out, depending on company that uses them.

Also, if unsure of who the best person in the company is to get the email, you could start the letter with:

"Please direct this information to the appropriate department."

Simple enough, but heightens the chance of your message getting read.

If anyone has anymore tips that they would like to share with donnied79 and myself, I would really appreciate the experience!

Thanx!

 

[MrRhee]

Jeff, it's hilarious that you're appraising a domain that's not even listed. WEAK. But thanks for your Concern. FAIL.

Ultimately, the market will determine what a domain is worth, not some guy on a domain forum that doesn't even know what the domain is, LOL. I think the domainer is wise to keep the name private as they will be marketing it for sale directly to endusers. Though some naysayers and trolls find it hard to believe: .TV domains can & do sell for 5 figures and more.

To Donnie and others: avoid the noise & disinformation campaigns, bulk up on your negotiation skills, read the numerous threads where domainers are sharing tactics for end-user targeting, then take the plunge yourself or hire a broker. You'll see after some trial & error that end-users sales can be a lucrative revenue stream.


Good luck with your sales.


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[Jeff]

To Donnie and others: avoid the noise & disinformation campaigns, bulk up on your negotiation skills, read the numerous threads where domainers are sharing tactics for end-user targeting, then take the plunge yourself or hire a broker. You'll see after some trial & error that end-users sales can be a lucrative revenue stream.

Yes, avoid the constant HYPE and chatter ... and then price your domains properly from the outset and then negotiate fairly and professionally to increase your odds for an successful sale(s)! :music: :imho:

All the best,
Jeff

 

[ViReal]

Hype, Chatter, Buzz = Free Marketing

The general public IMHO does not understand the .tv domain and/or see a value in it YET. Therefore, making end user sales very difficult. I think Jeff is right. Until the general public accepts this domain as an alternative to .com/.net ect. end user sales will be much less than domainers expect.

 

[freedom30]

Hype, Chatter, Buzz = Free Marketing

The general public IMHO does not understand the .tv domain and/or see a value in it YET. Therefore, making end user sales very difficult. I think Jeff is right. Until the general public accepts this domain as an alternative to .com/.net ect. end user sales will be much less than domainers expect.

...there will still be endusers grabbing names and making good use of the extension with development of their respective sites.

Appreciate your observations, ViReal, thanks.

The general United States public awareness is continuing to grow and small steps like the coming of google.tv and own.tv won't hurt the extension any.

Put simply, the trend is steadily continuing up, not down.

and you make sense as well with your statement:
"Hype, Chatter, Buzz = Free Marketing" It surely does.

 

[MrRhee]

am I going crazy?

Why was Jeff's post deleted (where he appraised a domain without even knowing what the name was)?

Plus, my reply to him got deleted? Why was it removed? Because I stepped on Jeff's toes for making such a ridiculous appraisal? and quoted it for future use?

By removing Jeff's post, it ruins the flow of this thread, breaks the continuity...

I know, I know.... Jeff has special protection here on NamePros. It's his playground. I should know better than to feed the trolls.

Watch this post will be deleted too...