Sedo Possibly Following Afternic In Filtering

[Dave_Z]

Got this in another forum:

From: [email protected]

We are writing to inform you that the domains listed below have been suspended from Sedos services due to a potential violation of our Offensive Domain Policy. While Sedo strives to protect our users rights to exercise free speech and maintain a marketplace with a vibrant and diverse collection of domain names, Sedo must also protect Internet users from domain names that contain illegal subject material or that promote hatred, child pornography, etc.



domainhere.com / domainthere.com



Please review Sedos Offensive Domain Policy at the link below. As the domain owner, it is your sole responsibility to ensure your properties do not violate these standards. Users who continually attempt to list for sale or park domains in violation of this policy risk suspension or cancellation of their Sedo accounts. A copy of the policy may be found in the Policies section of the Sedo website or by clicking here: http://www.sedo.com/about/policy.ph...icy&language=us



In the course of removing offensive domains from our system there is the possibility that otherwise legitimate domains were suspended due to their inclusion of offensive terms used in different contexts. If you have any questions about this decision please contact your account manager or the Sedo legal department at [email protected].



Sincerely,



Sedo Legal Dept.

Sedo.com LLC

One Broadway

Cambridge, MA 02142

Email: [email protected]

If that's true, it was bound to happen.

Time for the censorship advocates here to start chiming.

 

[goodkarmaco]

Thanks for making this post Dave,

I received the exact same email, although I don't see why you got one. Your name is not in the least offensive.

They told me my sexyteencandy was offensive. It is true the name could be promoted as a sex site. But it can also be branded and have nothing to do with a sex website. Maybe a name for a store for cool stuff in demand by teens.

But lets not be hypocrital here, what teens are not into sexy? I mean by that they are looking for clothing and fashion style that denotes sexy. Thats a multi billion dollar business and all retailers want a slice of that pie.

I emailed Sedo saying I got the name for the teen fashion market. Every popular tv show that families sit around and watch feature some family and they have teens and those teens talk about buying sexy jeans or a skirt. Yes, some things are offensive and that is good if they want to censor those names. But it should make sense right?

Afternic sure did not know how to define the term. A couple days ago some member in the forum told of how his "phonevirus.mobi" got deleted. The insanity goes on.

The name sexyteencandy is no different than NBC having a show where the teens ask to buy a certain sexy apparel. So get with it auction houses, start using some common sense, afterall it takes some intelligence to stay afloat in this business.

Manufactors, retailers and every one else selling to the teen market realize teens want sexy looking jeans, tops etc. So if a domainer wants to place a name like " sexyteenfashions" don't say the name is offensive.

The domain business is not the only one that advertises human sexual aspects to teens. Every major city contains hundreds of ads aimed at teens from shopping mall wall size photos to banners on the sides of buses.

I don't get it, why the puritan movement coming from this business at this time?. Anyone know the answer to that?


Yes, the new reich is beginning and thank goodness for folks like Moniker.

Having an adult auction shows many people do not support companies who think names need to be blessed by the Rabbi. Start thinking now how you will respond if places like Sedo are really embarking on filtering your and my domains.

Bottom line, Sedo and Afteric have way more names than they can sell anyway. If I had a warehouse with five million something in it for sale and I was averaging about 8-12 selling a day I would think of something to do too.

If they make the same mistake as Afternic with some censor program the market will adjust. Some group will come forward and embrace the adult market and will reward domainers with higher ppc and better listings to sales ratio.

 

[Keynes]

Dave was using an example, rather than listing the exact domain in question. Sedo is setting standards on certain domains, although I don't they'll filter a whole category of domains like Afternic.

Rod, I think it's pretty clear that when you combine "Sexy" and "Teen" you're potentially into some murky water, whatever your intentions may have been.

 

[Acroplex]

Makes me sad the Sedo office in Boston didn't burn to the ground. The PPC business is turning into a joke by a bunch of bible thumping assclowns.

 

[IAmAllanShore]

Makes me sad the Sedo office in Boston didn't burn to the ground. The PPC business is turning into a joke by a bunch of bible thumping assclowns.

That's Christmas spirit we love! :santa:

Anyhow, the question still remains how all those who flogged afternic mercilessly will respond now that many of us are getting these emails for names that, like at afternic, aren't "obscene" by most stretches of the imagination.

-Allan :gl:

 

[Keynes]

It's important to realize that Afternic/NameMedia made the filtering move in preparations to an IPO for investors, rather than any type of "morality" issue. Sedo is holding their own base level of standards, which is in their right as a privately held company.

 

[Spade]

I think its absolutely fine for a company to do this. They are only hurting themselves and it gives oppertunity for a new company to specialize in selling less than "mainstream" domain names.

I would love to see an Domaun Auction house for Adult only - and of course a PPC / Affiliate program to go along with it.

 

[IAmAllanShore]

I would love to see an Domaun Auction house for Adult only - and of course a PPC / Affiliate program to go along with it.

So what are you waiting for?

Get JMJ and danielr and maybe even tippy (Just because he's got more names than he knows what to do with ) and start one! :tu:

Seriously - the first mover has the advantage, so why settle for being tossed around in the ocean when you can steer your own ship?

-Allan :gl:

 

[whitebark]

I think its absolutely fine for a company to do this. They are only hurting themselves and it gives oppertunity for a new company to specialize in selling less than "mainstream" domain names.

I would love to see an Domaun Auction house for Adult only - and of course a PPC / Affiliate program to go along with it.

Agreed - that is the wonderful thing about capitalism - where there is a market need it will be filled sooner rather than later.

As an aside - maybe this is why Sedo and others have been paying such low return on adult and risque domain names - they wanted to drive you off without looking like the puritans that they are.

 

[Acroplex]

Actually Sedo pays nicely for marginally adult keywords. But I won't disclose what those are.

 

[Spade]

Actually Sedo pays nicely for marginally adult keywords. But I won't disclose what those are.

Wow, very generous of you. 3 Chears for Acroplex... Hip Hip, Hooray!

Your like a kid - who says "ive got a secret, but i'll never tell" why even mention it if you dont want to share the info?

 

[whitebark]

Acro - I know what some of them are - they jump you up from .03 to .08 on average with Sedo! LOL But in all honesty I don't have enough domains there to really know - I long ago had enough of their pathetic returns for other types of domains. I had one well performing forex domain that was getting less than .20 cents a click there - moved it to another company and now see an average of almost $1.50 each. And besides that their adult templates leave a lot to be desired.

And nobody tell my fiance that I still have some adult domains - there will be no 'adult' related activities for me!

 

[goodkarmaco]

Lol, whitebark.. thats a funny.

Rocketfly, yes.. like I say the name I posted that they deleted very well could be for a sex site and some do have names like that. But it very well could be for branding too.

Open most teen magazines or magazines that cater to the teen market and you will see ads for sexy something and using those words too. So then "sexy teen" in itself is not a bad word.

But I am more concerned about the mess a company gets us into by setting up the filtering program and the outcome to us all. That outcome is not good as we have seen at Afternic.

The newest post to complain was for a name that was fitlered in Afternic.. "phonevirus.mobi".

The name was removed and the owner asked why? The response from management, "the name may be seen as promoting malicious cellualar software"

So I can see Sedo going down the same road if they do start a moral cleansing in the site. That road is full of complaints, unfair depletions and other setbacks for domainers.

In my opinion the internet police are acting very foolishly and I cannot believe they make so much money, but common sense does not prevail.

I do hope more comments can be made about what we can do about it. For what its worth I think more than ever now is the time to take a stand against policies that want to censor domain names.

Number one delete your names from Afternic. That will send a strong message to other places who think they can benefit from such policies. Ask for your membership fee to be returned. Already the impact of Afternics decisions is being felt. Their four million names are now one million and dropping.

Go put some adult names in Monikers live adult auction!

 

[-db-]

"assclown"

That's another new one for me, and I'm filing it away for future reference.

I remember when I first saw the term "asshat" used. It was LeeRyder I believe.

Which leads to the obvious question... do assclowns wear asshats?

:blink:

 

[slider]

Which leads to the obvious question... do assclowns wear asshats?

Let's turn to the infinite wisdom that is Urban Dictionary.

"1. A person who, while under the influence, makes a complete fool of himself while attempting humor. An assclown may wear an asshat."

There you have it.

 

[-db-]

LOL

Thank you Ben!

And thank you Urban Dictionary.

 

[Acroplex]

Wow, very generous of you. 3 Chears for Acroplex... Hip Hip, Hooray!

Your like a kid - who says "ive got a secret, but i'll never tell" why even mention it if you dont want to share the info?

Do I know you? Because obviously, you don't know me.
I will post what I like and withhold what I like. Do your own research on your own time.

Acro - I know what some of them are - they jump you up from .03 to .08 on average with Sedo!

No, these keywords pay 10 x times as much. Hint: think of a "legit" adult industry.

"assclown"

That's another new one for me, and I'm filing it away for future reference.

I remember when I first saw the term "asshat" used. It was LeeRyder I believe.

Which leads to the obvious question... do assclowns wear asshats?

:blink:

My current favorite is "jackhole" :D

 

[slider]

Do your own research on your own time.

I thought forums were for sharing ideas and information?

 

[Acroplex]

I thought forums were for sharing ideas and information?

I gave a hint above.

"Ask for Athena's help, but move your arms as well"
Ancient Greek proverb.

 

[goodkarmaco]

This is in my opinion of a serious nature and will effect the domain business in the future. Jokes are nice when we are faced with change. But reality is always going to take precedance.

Personally, I don't think this trend of filtering is going to turn out to be a funny outcome to domain owners who have an investment in adult names. Even those who don't will not like the outcome.

Seriously members, is this some plan placed into motion by industry leaders and Afternic was just the first to start it?. Are you concerned about the future of parking your names?.

Think about this, even if you have no adult names, if it is a plan you will be affected.

I imagine Homer Simpson would have a hard time registering domains that are humourous. I remember a recent show, he says to a captain of a boat, " is it true a poop deck is what I really think it is?".

Well, if filtering is starting at Sedo, he would not be allowed to register "poopdeck.com"

Thats it in a nutshell, the sillyness of it all and the "extra hassles" to us domain owners in placing our names up for sale in a auction house that sets itself up for name policing.

Those who think it is no big deal will think different when it comes to them emailing and asking over and over, why my name,? Especially when the emails do not get anwsered quickly.

If time is money you will understand my point.