Scrappy domains with PR

[Ms Grace]

Are they worth anything? Is there a market for these type of domains?

I sometimes come across crappy domains in the deleted domains list that actually have a PR 1/2/3 (sometimes 4/5). I was wondering if there are people buying domains just for their PR, no matter how worthless the domain looks at first sight..

Kinda have the same question about LLLL.com domains with a PR2 (with 2 or 3 premium letters)....

Ms Grace

 

[VisualArtistFrankBonilla]

I don't know about crappy names, but here is a little something from www.CheckPageRank.net :

One of the easiest and fastest ways to start your online business or to make money with Adsense is not thinking and creating websites with new domain names but picking up older domain names that have already been spidered and indexed in the search engines for months and years... just waiting for you to pick up and start making money!
It makes sense doesn't it?
Let's say you were starting your own store. Where you would be more successful... building a store in the middle of nowhere in the Mohave desert or leasing space at a highly trafficked area in a crowded suburban mall?
There are tons of "highly trafficked areas" on the internet in the form of expired or expiring domain names, looking for new owners waiting to take advantage of visitors that already visiting.
Every day over 20,000 domain names are abandoned and expire for whatever reason. Many of these are domain names that had websites that were listed in: *Yahoo *MSN *DMOZ *GOOGLE and many other valuable directories.
There are thousands of valuable domain names with websites that have been created and forgotten, many with hundreds of backlinks pointing to them, and are abandoned every day just waiting for someone to find them...
Each week thousands of domain names expire and become available again. These expired domain names are names that were previously registered, but where the registration has not been renewed, or where the registrant has defaulted on payment. These unclaimed domain names are then repossessed and are made available for anyone to register again. Many of such domains are already registered with search engines, have established back links, google page rank and traffic. Buying such name you can either build your own website or you can just sell links on the page.
For example a single link on a Google PR5 domain worth anything from $30 to $60 and more per month! It takes quite a long time to achieve a PR4/5/6/7 ranking. If you have other websites that aren't developed or indexed, it's your chance to get indexed by all major search engines within days by simply adding a text link on such domain to your site.
The expired domain business is a very competitive, first-come-first-serve field. If a domain is listed in the yahoo or dmoz directory or has significant backlinks and/or PageRank, the difficulty in grabbing them before someone else increases significantly.



Frank

 

[Ms Grace]

thanks for that nice info!
Using such domains for development had crossed my mind for a sec too.
But indeed most of the high PR domains are up for bid, which probably makes the investment most more expensive.

I do own a couple of LLLL.coms with 2 or 3 Premuim Letters => all PR 2. And am considering snagging up a few deleted domains with PR. So that's why I was wondering if PR drives up the worth of a domain....

Ms Grace

 

[allroundguy]

Don't search engines delete expired domains from list to crawl?

No offense, but I typed [Google expired crawl] in Google search box and found people disputing about yes or no deletion of expired domains in their to crawl list.
I'm not sure about the value of back links: They may bring visitors, but no guarantee they will click on anything. No click, no money.

 

[dotnom]

No offense, but I typed [Google expired crawl] in Google search box and found people disputing about yes or no deletion of expired domains in their to crawl list.
I'm not sure about the value of back links: They may bring visitors, but no guarantee they will click on anything. No click, no money.

No offense too but you can see a dispute for everything, even for things they happen in front of the eyes of two different persons. You must worry when you don't see even the slightest dispute for a thing

Regarding backlinks are always valuable. What all webmasters try to achive is a visit. The click depends on the webmaster's skills - the content of the site to attract the curiocity of the visitor to search more

 

[Ms Grace]

I did some more searching on the matter and read that Google removes or lowers the PR drasticly when a domain expires. I guess you can still get expired domains with backlinks for the traffic, but the PR basicly fades away at the next update (+/- 30 days). So if you want to benifit of the PR you'd have to get the domain before it expires....

I guess I'll have to wait and see what happens to my PR2 domains in the next 30 days...

 

[ridesign1]

so would anyone buy a PR3 domain such as loveifilm.com for more then $10

 

[owntype]

so would anyone buy a PR3 domain such as loveifilm.com for more then $10

Yes, someone will :bingo:

 

[allroundguy]

PR ranking really guarantees nothing - But that's my opinion ...

If we buy 100 domains and make a home page for each of them ...
If we put a list with all domains with a link to the web page on each page ...
We would have 100 webs with 100 backlinks.
If nobody lands on any of the 100 homepages there comes no traffic from the home pages themself.
If anybody lands from anywhere on any of the home pages, and is not interested in domains, webs, or the Internet at all it is not likely that there shall be clicked on one of the 100 domain links.
If the random visitor clicks uberhaupt on a link, it may not even be one of ours.
That's just waste of bandwidth.
So we need targeted traffic.
For that we rely on what we have to offer and what interested people may be expected to want.
Search engine result position is important.
Backlinks are not.

Really: Just why would somebody with a domain business put a competitor's link on his web?
And why would somebody without any domain interest put domain related links on his web, since it can be expected that the average visitor to that domain comes there either by accident of because of the non-domain content?

In my honest opinion, PR is totally irrelevant, excepted for people that sell PR optimisation services. It's an industry like appraising: Sellers try to convince people that they need it.

 

[dotnom]

Certainly the PR is not the only factor that will give you top SE ranks but ignoring it is another issue

When facts are in front of you choosing the ones you like and avoid the ones you don't like will not help your site

Summary : Yes PR is crucial and if people tell you otherwise then they either don't know much, bored to work to get it, didn't have any high PR ranked site to see the difference

Internet is not a place of exclusive internal site linking only
If that was the case then it would not be the internet we know now

Giving also URL of your competitors is not ideal (and not quite right according to marketing) but if the visitor goes and buy from them is your fault, because he found something better elsewhere. If you are so sure about your product you don't have anything to afraid. Hiding the existence of others doesn't make you the right choice.

Summary : If you don't like backlinks then make a unique and valuable site so that everybody will link one way (after all these links are the ones that count most to search engines)

 

[briman1970]

Search engine result position is important. Backlinks are not.

Investing in expired domains with existing backlinks has netted me a few thousand this year through parking and affiliate revenues.

Search engine placement is partially based on how popular your site is. Backlinks are one of the ways to increase your popularity.

From the Big G... PageRank relies on the uniquely democratic nature of the web by using its vast link structure as an indicator of an individual page's value. In essence, Google interprets a link from page A to page B as a vote, by page A, for page B. But, Google looks at more than the sheer volume of votes, or links a page receives; it also analyzes the page that casts the vote. Votes cast by pages that are themselves "important" weigh more heavily and help to make other pages "important."