Scammed by Network Solutions?

[James Rodman]

EDIT POST: not sure who the scammer is. looks like NS might be

 

[forge]

do you know if i should call my bank or the actual company visa?

It depends whether it's a debit card or credit card. If it's a credit card, you call the issuing card company, e.g. Capital One, etc.

 

[James Rodman]

It depends whether it's a debit card or credit card. If it's a credit card, you call the issuing card company, e.g. Capital One, etc.

its a visa credit card. so i call bank ?

 

[Simon Taylor]

its a visa credit card. so i call bank ?

Call whoever is branded on the card, there may even be a phone number on the card to call!

 

[James Rodman]

Call whoever is branded on the card, there may even be a phone number on the card to call!

yea just saw the # on the back . it is of my banks credit card department. thank you

 

[Simon Taylor]

My 2c is, how the hell didn't you run and run fast after that conversation on flippa? Everything I read would make me run away!
I hope the fact you were handed the account doesn't hurt you as you attempt to clear it up, I mean any normal person would push the domain. That may make you look complicit, which I don't believe you deliberately were.
Theres an old saying, if it looks too good to be true it probably is!

 

[James Rodman]

My 2c is, how the hell didn't you run and run fast after that conversation on flippa? Everything I read would make me run away!
I hope the fact you were handed the account doesn't hurt you as you attempt to clear it up, I mean any normal person would push the domain. That may make you look complicit, which I don't believe you deliberately were.
Theres an old saying, if it looks too good to be true it probably is!

i immediately transferred the name to my NS account after he gave me his account so i think that part should be okay

 

[Simon Taylor]

i immediately transferred the name to my NS account after he gave me his account so i think that part should be okay

Thats not what I'm saying, you were in possession of an account that was possibly used to defraud. Even though you had it afterwards, may make it harder to explain to NS and the auctioneers.

If you could have pushed it so easily they will say so should have the other guy, again not saying you were involved in that part, just saying they may hold it partially against you.

 

[forge]

My 2c is, how the hell didn't you run and run fast after that conversation on flippa? Everything I read would make me run away!
I hope the fact you were handed the account doesn't hurt you as you attempt to clear it up, I mean any normal person would push the domain. That may make you look complicit, which I don't believe you deliberately were.
Theres an old saying, if it looks too good to be true it probably is!

I agree, though I will add that in kind of an "old school" way, handing over a user account isn't completely unheard of if there's only a single domain associated with it. This was suggested to me recently in a domain trade where I was the seller, though the thought of it did kind of freak me out and I opted against it. Especially since almost always there is/was financial information linked to it.

 

[James Rodman]

I agree, though I will add that in kind of an "old school" way, handing over a user account isn't completely unheard of if there's only a single domain associated with it. This was suggested to me recently in a domain trade where I was the seller, though the thought of it now did kind of freak me out and I opted against it. Especially since almost always there at least was financial information linked to it.

true i even offered this to you forge for that deal we made recently lol. But forge called the registrar and he was able to push afterwards

 

[forge]

Thats not what I'm saying, you were in possession of an account that was possibly used to defraud. Even though you had it afterwards, may make it harder to explain to NS and the auctioneers.

If you could have pushed it so easily they will say so should have the other guy, again not saying you were involved in that part, just saying they may hold it partially against you.

100% agree

 

[forge]

true i even offered this to you forge for that deal we made recently lol. But forge called the registrar and he was able to push afterwards

Completely forgot that was our transaction!

You had great patience while I sorted out our "problem" and you are a trusted member in my book.

 

[James Rodman]

Completely forgot that was our transaction!

You had great patience while I sorted out our "problem" and you are a trusted member in my book.

You are as well. Thank you

 

[webm]

Although the issue seems to be resolved on surface, I would still request from the second party (Chetan) to poke Network Solutions and not let them get away this easily. If there was a chargeback, they should clearly mention it. What they are mentioning, is no chargeback but just that the domain was never renewed. In this case just a simple question: "How the hell domain got pushed to another netsol account(s) if it was expired as netsol doesn't allow the push of any domain even after just 1 day of expiry?"

Chetan, you should either call them as they suggested. If you can't call, re-open the support ticket and demand them they clarify this issue via the support ticket itself as you are unable to make a call.

 

[James Rodman]

Although the issue seems to be resolved on surface, I would still request from the second party (Chetan) to poke Network Solutions and not let them get away this easily. If there was a chargeback, they should clearly mention it. What they are mentioning, is no chargeback but just that the domain was never renewed. In this case just a simple question: "How the hell domain got pushed to another netsol account(s) if it was expired as netsol doesn't allow the push of any domain even after just 1 day of expiry?"

Chetan, you should either call them as they suggested. If you can't call, re-open the support ticket and demand them they clarify this issue via the support ticket itself as you are unable to make a call.

also to mention the domain was pushed twice between 3 accounts. The previous owner gave me his account then i transferred to my account then i transferred to chetans account. if it was expired would this be allowed?

 

[domainerfella]

Although the issue seems to be resolved on surface, I would still request from the second party (Chetan) to poke Network Solutions and not let them get away this easily. If there was a chargeback, they should clearly mention it. What they are mentioning, is no chargeback but just that the domain was never renewed. In this case just a simple question: "How the hell domain got pushed to another netsol account(s) if it was expired as netsol doesn't allow the push of any domain even after just 1 day of expiry?"

Chetan, you should either call them as they suggested. If you can't call, re-open the support ticket and demand them they clarify this issue via the support ticket itself as you are unable to make a call.

With link to this thread of course so their bottom moves.

 

[d-e-x]

I've learn 2 things in 2013.

1.Stay away from NetworkSolutions (even for free and cheap domains!)
2.Stay away from 1and1 (even for free and cheap hosting and domains!)

Total loss of $250

But you can find worst stories on google

Hm, I learn that 2014/5
Total loss: $3.000 so far
1und1 is bad story all the way.

 

[Abdillahi Abdillahi]

Hmmmm I always wondered why Godaddy asked for renewal fee when I buy an expired domain on their auctions website cause I could always see that it had a year left. Now I understand it then.

 

[Chetan]

I think its time to give chetan his refund.

Well, do we have the FULL STORY?

You seem to keep withholding pieces of information that keep slowly coming out.

Chetan's beef is with you. I think he should get his money back.

Your beef is with the seller on Flippa. You should be after Flippa to get the information of the person they dispersed the money to and get them to do whatever they can in their power to recover the money.

Unless there is more to this story?

I think its time to give chetan his refund.

I don't think you have intentionally set out to scam, but I'd say that there is a good chance that chetan doesn't have his domain as a result of your actions, and that he doesn't have what he paid for.

Do you think you should be $1000+ in profit from this transaction?

Do you still have access to this account? Because you see that link right there in the email? The one where the original account holder can claim the account right back?

How do you know that the login details were from an account which was owned by that seller? They could have been obtain from phishing or keylogging.

I'm sure I'm not the only domainer who has just read that chat transcript and observed the fact that you are happy to be sitting on $1000+ of chetan's money and decided that they'd simply never, ever, do business with you.

Do I think you are a scammer? No, a liability perhaps.

Do I think you should have $1000+ of chetan's money in your paypal account? No, I don't.

I think you should at the bare minimum have offered him the profit back as a starting point (sale price minus $440, until you resolve with flippa if possible).

Thanks for understanding my points

I do really appreciate it

 

[Chetan]

yes i have emailed them with what Kevin said. waiting for reply still. yes i agree his ban is a red flag which might indicate he was the problem in this in which case i will refund chetan his money and take the loss on my side

refund issued to chetan. Now hopefully the scammer "Jack" is discovered and gets banned from every auction platform so noone has to go through him. and also move out all your domains from NetworkSolutions is my advice as you see what can happen.

Also apologies to Chetan for calling him the scammer and hopefully he can do the same as im not a scammer either and we can find the real culprit in this one which looks like "Jack"

Thanks for the Refund.
Apologies for calling you scammer. there was a bit of misunderstanding and now things are much clear.
You are a Great Guy James and definitely I will be happy doing business with you in near future

 

[Chetan]

Although the issue seems to be resolved on surface, I would still request from the second party (Chetan) to poke Network Solutions and not let them get away this easily. If there was a chargeback, they should clearly mention it. What they are mentioning, is no chargeback but just that the domain was never renewed. In this case just a simple question: "How the hell domain got pushed to another netsol account(s) if it was expired as netsol doesn't allow the push of any domain even after just 1 day of expiry?"

Chetan, you should either call them as they suggested. If you can't call, re-open the support ticket and demand them they clarify this issue via the support ticket itself as you are unable to make a call.

i will make sure that Net Sol does not run away with it so easily.