Scammed by Network Solutions?

[James Rodman]

EDIT POST: not sure who the scammer is. looks like NS might be

 

[DomainGist]

The biggest flaw: People assume that any domain that is expired (let's say on July 27th 2015) would show an expiry of 2015 and will then drop. What ICANN does though, that they have this system in place that instructs registrars to pay the renewal fee and renew the domain for one more year - just that the "Status" if the domain will be changed from "OK" to a custom one indicating it's expired. This gives them the liberty to hold (or auction) it for 0 to 45 days. Now if they still decide to drop the name (no auction won), ICANN refunds them the renewal fee. So it's a vicious cycle. I have observed this process but ironically, never found it written anywhere.

It looks like THREE successive owners have been duped by this fictitious 2016 expiry date.

I actually offered a domain for free on namepros recently, claiming it had almost a year until expiration.

Turns out that my domain had recently expired, but the whois date showed as 2016, for the reasons you explain in this paragraph.

Just like whois duped me into believing that I had a year left on that domain..... three successive buyers have been presented with a 2016 date, when it had actually entered the grace period.

None of the three had renewed after taking ownership during that grace period. Messy situation!

 

[webm]

actually godaddy does not. godaddy will allow transfers out of godaddy but not between accounts. if your domain is expired you must renew before you can transfer between godaddy accounts.. i've yet to come across any registrar that allows expired domains to be transferred between accounts.

My bad. Yes, that's the transfer out that they allow.

Finally, what could be the last possibility is, that the original buyer on Namejet "williamson21" bought it from Expired (pre-release) from Namejet, got it automatically renewed with his winning bid, sold it to James, James sold it to chetan. BUT, later williamson21 did (or somehow got) chargeback through Paypal/CC on Namejet. Namejet then passed this chargeback to Netsol who cancelled any renewal/auction winning of this domain, snatched it from the acount of whoever was holding the domain that time, restored it's previous status and put that again in the auction process, namely, Namejet.

So effectively, non of our both members from Namepros are scammers. But james "may" have dealt with a Scammer?

On another note: ..And I always believed that Godaddy is the suckiest registrar. Duh, I should maybe sing chorus in their praise.

 

[James Rodman]

It looks like THREE successive owners have been duped by this fictitious 2016 expiry date.

I actually offered a domain for free on namepros recently, claiming it had almost a year until expiration.

Turns out that my domain had recently expired, but the whois date showed as 2016, for the reasons you explain in this paragraph.

Just like whois duped me into believing that I had a year left on that domain..... three successive buyers have been presented with a 2016 date, when it had actually entered the grace period.

None of the three had renewed after taking ownership during that grace period. Messy situation![/QUOTE

I would say we are all dumb but none of us even got an email saying it was expiring. NS is lying

 

[James Rodman]

My bad. Yes, that's the transfer out that they allow.

Finally, what could be the last possibility is, that the original buyer on Namejet "williamson21" bought it from Expired (pre-release) from Namejet, sold it to James, James sold it to chetan. BUT, later williamson21 did (or somehow got) chargeback through Paypal/CC on Namejet. Namejet then passed this chargeback to Netsold who cancelled any renewal/auction won of this domain, restored it's previous status and put that again in the auction.

So effectively, non of our both members from Namepros are scammers. But james "may" have dealt with a Scammer?

does namejet have a member on here that can see if this happened?

 

[Jasonn]

My bad. Yes, that's the transfer out that they allow.

Finally, what could be the last possibility is, that the original buyer on Namejet "williamson21" bought it from Expired (pre-release) from Namejet, sold it to James, James sold it to chetan. BUT, later williamson21 did (or somehow got) chargeback through Paypal/CC on Namejet. Namejet then passed this chargeback to Netsold who cancelled any renewal/auction won of this domain, restored it's previous status and put that again in the auction.

So effectively, non of our both members from Namepros are scammers. But james "may" have dealt with a Scammer?

This may most likely be the case however it doesn't explain how New Ventures managed to get the domain.

 

[domainerfella]

It looks like THREE successive owners have been duped by this fictitious 2016 expiry date.

I actually offered a domain for free on namepros recently, claiming it had almost a year until expiration.

Turns out that my domain had recently expired, but the whois date showed as 2016, for the reasons you explain in this paragraph.

Just like whois duped me into believing that I had a year left on that domain..... three successive buyers have been presented with a 2016 date, when it had actually entered the grace period.

None of the three had renewed after taking ownership during that grace period. Messy situation!

In such cases, the nameservers will show pendingrenewaldeletion, am I correct?
Something like this:
ns2.pendingrenewaldeletion.com
ns1.pendingrenewaldeletion.com

 

[DomainGist]

My bad. Yes, that's the transfer out that they allow.

Finally, what could be the last possibility is, that the original buyer on Namejet "williamson21" bought it from Expired (pre-release) from Namejet, got it automatically renewed with his winning bid, sold it to James, James sold it to chetan. BUT, later williamson21 did (or somehow got) chargeback through Paypal/CC on Namejet. Namejet then passed this chargeback to Netsol who cancelled any renewal/auction winning of this domain, restored it's previous status and put that again in the auction process, namely, Namejet.

So effectively, non of our both members from Namepros are scammers. But james "may" have dealt with a Scammer?

Is there currently any evidence that James Rodman isn't Williamson21 and couldn't have done that chargeback against namejet himself?

I'm NOT accusing, just feel it would be helpful for a process of elimination.

 

[James Rodman]

Is there currently any evidence that James Rodman isn't Williamson21 and couldn't have done that chargeback against namejet himself?

I'm NOT accusing, just feel it would be helpful for a process of elimination.

i have an account there but dont buy from there. as i said i bought this on flippa. @FlippaDomains can confirm this as he knows my account there.

 

[Chetan]

@James Rodman how did you paid the seller on flippa ?

 

[James Rodman]

@James Rodman how did you paid the seller on flippa ?

credit card via flippa escrow

 

[Chetan]

you must be having your conversation with him atleast in your inbox

 

[James Rodman]

you must be having your conversation with him atleast in your inbox

i will send you in private

 

[Chetan]

i can see it here
https://flippa.com/5462871-first-name-last-name-lll-net-1-day-auction

 

[James Rodman]

i can see it here
https://flippa.com/5462871-first-name-last-name-lll-net-1-day-auction

yes thats my listing which i listed after buying. as you can see expiry date says 10 months

 

[James Rodman]

i can see it here
https://flippa.com/5462871-first-name-last-name-lll-net-1-day-auction

check your FB i sent you screenshot

 

[Raindrops]

You're Danny Ort - https://flippa.com/users/915350

Also known here as Danny Ort, right? -

https://www.namepros.com/members/danny-ort.962821/

 

[Chetan]

i will send you in private

I would really appreciate if you send me here on namepros personal message instead, FB is not showing up anything

 

[James Rodman]

You're Danny Ort - https://flippa.com/users/915350

Also known here as Danny Ort, right? -

https://www.namepros.com/members/danny-ort.962821/

was old account. this is my permanent one now

 

[James Rodman]

I would really appreciate if you send me here on namepros personal message instead, FB is not showing up anything

alright hold on

 

[Chetan]

alright hold on

Sir, I would appreciate if you send me snaps of sales completion area. As i don't think that anything is left to hide now