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Sahar Sarid, Guilty Until Proven Innocent?

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  1. Whizzbang

    Whizzbang Active Member ParkLogic Staff Gold Account VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    I’ve been watching the Internet explosion of interest surrounding the news that prominent domain hall of fame recipient, Sahar Sarid, has been charged with a number of serious crimes relating to mugshots.com. If you read the many articles and forum posts you would assume the trial has already happened and that he, along with his three associates are guilty…..

    I find it really sad that in this day and age the lynch mob is alive and well as they leap into action to grab their burning torches and pitch forks by vilifying a man before the trial. I would remind everyone that Sahar IS innocent until his guilt HAS been proven in a court of law. All we know at this time are the charges and not the outcome.

    I should also say that I find the business model surrounding mugshots.com to be unethical (and if proven, illegal) and one that I personally would not have anything to do with. That being said, under our legal system Sahar is granted the right of the presumption of innocence and his guilt must be proven.

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  2. Grilled

    Grilled Be the change you want to see in the world VIP

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  3. texmexi

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    Whizzbang,

    Be very careful trying to form a public opinion of innocence for all involved in Mugshots.com indictment, including Sahar Sarid. There is no doubt he/they are guilty. Karma in full circle. Read Charges after a multi year investigation on Sahar Sarid, Kismore "Jeff Bvhavanie etc. and business strategy with Mugshots.com. https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/4465207/MUGSHOT-FILED-ARREST-WARRANT-Redacted.pdf

    Also read my post here and on namespros news section.

    His mother and sister (Shunit) should also be listed in this indictment, in regards to mugshots.com, at a minimum. I know plenty on them too, avoiding many UDRPs by establishing many fake LLC's, companies, etc to beat the UDRP system over the years, and to cover up UDRP names lost with false whois info to keep the true domain holding company from being labeled, cybersquatter.

    Class action lawsuit will proceed and he will end up in jail (along with all the other criminal gang). And this is just one criminal case in which they have been indicted on. I am confident knowing Sahar's and Bhavanie's mindset since 1999 there are many more online scandals, not yet investigated, known of, or made public on their circle of criminal activities online to generate easy revenue, no matter the cost or people they effect.

    Simple answer to your question. Guy murders his wife with gun in hand as police pull up and with witnesses present. Do you think mass public opinion would be "Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law" based on this situation?

    Answer is "NO"! Regardless of what constitution says for those accused of criminal activities. And with Criminal technology advancements now, it is very rare those arrested/indicted for serious crimes are actually innocent! Guilty verdict is the reality.
     
  4. Whizzbang

    Whizzbang Active Member ParkLogic Staff Gold Account VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Actually, there is doubt that they are guilty and that is why there will be a trial. Do I think it looks good for them or their relatives? No, I don't. The reason why we have due process is to ensure that justice is enacted and seen to be enacted, regardless of the outcome.

    To answer your scenario about a man murdering his wife (terrible as it is)....the reason why there is due process is they discovered that a neighbour had the mans three children at gunpoint and if he didn't shoot his wife then his children would be killed. The man didn't want to kill his wife but was forced into an impossible position to choose between his wife and children. Is the man guilty of killing his wife? Technically yes.....but should he be convicted and have his children suffer the loss of the mother and father as a result....probably not.

    To be clear, I'm NOT defending Sahar (or any of the others).....I have a strong belief in the legal process to get to the truth. Like you have stated, given the characters involved and the growing body of evidence I wouldn't be surprised if this is just the tip of the iceberg. What I don't agree with is convicting a person in the court of public prior to a fair trial by his peers....hence my article.

    What concerns me about situations like this is the impact that crime has on innocent victims. The growing list of people coming forward and sharing about how they have suffered as a result of mugshots.com is truly horrifying.
     
  5. LAYNESHALE

    LAYNESHALE The Domain Junky Blue Account

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    Great article! I've personally witnessed the power of the "media circus" and the clowns who are running it. A man I know personally was vilified by the news media in newspapers, television and online. They ran with the story before they even knew any of the facts. He received death threats and even lost his job as a result. The media flat out lied about the whole thing to "break" the story. Once the truth came out that he was actually innocent of the charges, nobody cared.

    His life has been completely ruined as a result.

    I unplugged my television, have completely banned any news paraphernalia in my home and absolutely refuse to read anything from mainstream media to this day.
     
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  6. johnnie018

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    Whizzbang, Sahar has ruined many people’s lives. Whether or not extortion can legally be proved doesn’t change things. He’s a predator. Lost jobs, broken relationships….. worse. Watch some of the documentaries and read the legal filings.

    The guy has collected 20 million mugshots and he doesn’t care if those people are guilty or innocent, he won’t take them down until people pay. So there is some irony in the title of this thread.
     
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    Innocent in the sense of not convicted of a crime, yet. Guilty for having exploited and hurt many, many people and lied about it over and over - claiming he was not involved in mugshots.com when the info now released by the investigators shows he is involved.

    See other thread here for earlier info: https://www.namepros.com/threads/sahar-sarid-mugshots-com.933072/
     
  8. wwwweb

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    You seem to be on a first name basis with this person, do you have any past or present business dealings with this party?
     
  9. Whizzbang

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    Hence why I did not condone his business activies and wrote that I would have nothing to do with that type of activity. My blog post outlines that point and also empathy towards victims of these types of activities.
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  10. Whizzbang

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    I presume this was directed to me.....I have had no business dealings with Sahar.
     
  11. johnnie018

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    It was more like a defense of him with a disclaimer added onto the bottom. Reminds me a lot of Sahar's defense of Dicker a few years ago (posted below).

    Have you watched the documentaries? Have you read the legal filings? We don't need to wait for a court to tell us if he has done anything wrong. Do you think Dicker could be innocent as well?

     
  12. Whizzbang

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    It was never intended to be a defense of Sahar but a case of let's wait for the evidence to be weighed by the courts. To me, it doesn't matter who the person is I will always take a stance of innocent until proven guilty. The reason why is because I believe I am not privy to all the facts.....but the court is.

    That being said......even if the courts find a person is legally innocent they may be morally and ethically guilty. In this case I wouldn't have anything to do with the perpertrators in business and I thought I made this plain in my full blog article.The whole business model of mugshots.com is abhorrent and extortionate.....regardless of the legality I wouldn't have anything to do with it.
     
  13. Whizzbang

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    No I don't think Adam is innocent of the things that he has done. I think his business incompetence harmed a lot of good people. Does this make him evil.....probably not...IF and I mean IF he goes about and works on making restitution for those that were harmed. This means facing the music, humbling himself by saying sorry, putting a plan of action together to make good and then following through on the plan. If he hasn't done that then it's an entirely different matter.

    BTW, I have no idea whether he's made good or not.....that's between him and the people that were impacted by what happened. It's another tragic tale of the domain industry.....sigh....
     
  14. Doron Vermaat

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    Adam's business incompetence?
     
  15. Whizzbang

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    I believe he has publicly admitted to having problems with saying "Yes" to every opportunity and then taking the money. If you say "Yes" to everything then it is a level of incompetence.... as you won't be able to deliver what was already paid for. Please refer back to my previous post regarding restitution to those that have paid.
     
  16. Doron Vermaat

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    Sorry Michael, but if you think Adam Dicker's issues boil down to incompetence then we have to disagree.
     
  17. Whizzbang

    Whizzbang Active Member ParkLogic Staff Gold Account VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    I think we are in furious agreement....there is a lot more than business incompetence so I apologise for my previous brevity. I was trying to answer another question by outlining the path he should take to make restitution to those wronged.....as I said previously if he hasn't done that than it's another matter altogether.
     
  18. Grilled

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    What was Adams involvement with mugshots.com?

    Below is a link to an old domain sherpa video where Adam shares his site (removemugshots.com) charged people $399 to have mugshots removed from mugshots.com. IMO, it's a must watch video given the circumstances.

    During minute mark 20:45, Adam states he had a business arrangement with mugshots.com.

    https://embed-ssl.wistia.com/deliveries/cb0e17e216ffff1e838834128259fccd611cc66e.bin
     
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  19. johnnie018

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    They were in business together,

    (PRWEB) MAY 11, 2012

    RemoveMugshots .com has become one of the most well-known Online Reputation Repair firms in the country, helping clients remove defamatory content from webpages through advanced reputation management techniques. As a part of their comprehensive services, they specialize in mugshot removal from the Internet. RemoveMugshots.com quickly became an approved vendor for Mugshots.com which has quickly became one of the most popular mugshot websites around, cataloging the booking information, arrest records, and mugshots of millions of people during the past several years. The site keeps an updated list of the latest mugshots and allows users to browse mugshots easily by state and county.

    RemoveMugshots.com became an approved vendor with mugshots.com because of the integrity mugshots.com shows with its approach to mugshots removals. "We were immediately impressed with Mugshots.com from day one because they won’t just remove any mugshot because someone wants to unpublish". Mugshots.com will not remove any violent offenders, people listed in the sex offenders database or anything to do with crimes against children. We found their professional approach to be refreshing. Mugshots.com will also do free removals if a case has been expunged and abide by all court orders.

    Contact Author
    ADAM DICKER
    RemoveMugshots .com
    1-888-310-9707
     
  20. DnEbook

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    The internet remembers many things
     
  21. Kate

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    For the moment, let's say that Mugshots.com is guilty.

    Some people may even have committed suicide as a result of their reputation being destroyed, not being able to find or keep a job, or broken relationships. Mugshots.com has destroyed lives, and I wouldn't sleep well at the helm of a criminal enterprise like that.
    There mere fact that domainers were involved in mugshots.com in any capacity is a disgrace to our industry, and makes them dirty regardless of the outcome of the legal case.
    What goes around, comes around.
    Let justice be served.
     
  22. golan

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    You are totally right in this.

    But this particular case is totally another story.
     
  23. LAYNESHALE

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    I agree..
     
  24. Josh R

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    This link doesn’t work for me.
     
  25. equity78

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    All Dicker content was removed from DomainSherpa.com.
     

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