Well, I was burned!
His new name is Carter..
I have realize the scam after I accidently used another email, and he send me different link to the fake board,
check out:
http://webtalk.007sites.com/Archive/461239.htm
http://webtalk.007sites.com/Archive/472853.htm
He said that he already made another company's appresial.. and when I said please show me the link I want to see it.. he dissapear..
Well I hope PLIMUS to refund my 80 EURO.. but I do not belive so..
here is our conversation by email..:
Your valuation looks reasonable enough and I agree with it.
To get a fair value I ordered another valuation from different site.
Since it's not smart to rely on one valuation only.
I've got the figure already. It's very close the result of your valuation.
Of course, I expected a lower estimation
.
Anyway, now I see from different sources that your name has a good
potential.
My partners told me about ICANN rule that prohibits domain reselling before
two months from registration. I did not want to wait for two months.
Here is my solution:
I search for a buyer and get 14%-15% upon sale. I wrote about reselling in
first emails.
Of course, I don't require exclusive rights to sell. You can try to sell at
the same time. If I find a buyer faster I get my 15%.
I've already bought opt-in lists to promote your domains. I invested about
$150 in these opt-in lists.
I was already contacted by an individual regarding your domain. His partner
was interested in purchasing. He asked for valuation certificate. I've
already sent him your appraisal link upon receiving his request.
Of course, I cannot list your names with brokers and auctions since I'm not
the owner.
I'm going to use your valuation in my promotio? Is it ok with you?
I think if you list your domains with several brokers and auctions it will
help us. Many buyers prefer to buy through auction sites or domain brokers.
Moreover, many brokers help with transfer. I'm not the owner so I can only
use my database to promote your domains and I cannot list. As the owner, you
can list your domains on
www.eBay.com,
www.Amazon.com,
www.EasyNameSale.com
and
www.Pool.com. Please don't forget to send your auction links.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Ivaylo Velinov"
To: "Carter" <
[email protected]
Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 1:42 PM
Subject: Re: Appraisal Order (Domain Services)
Here is what I have from EasyNameSale.com
Support wrote:
Dear Customer,
Our charge will appear on your bill as "Plimus Online Store"
Domains Appraised: 2
Order Amount: 80 EUR
Appraisal Links
mydomain .com : $5,350
mydomain .com : $5,100
We invite you to auction your domains with us at
http://www.EasyNameSale.com/sell.htm
Unlike free listing services that simply list your domains, we regularly promote domain names via our potential buyer database (over 12,000 potential buyers).
1. Our listing period is not limited. We sell all names until they are sold.
2. There is NO a commission upon sale.
3. There is NO a listing period. We list all names until they are sold. All bids will be resent to your e-mail address along with a buyer's contact information.
4. Free and fast domain transfer and escrow for our customers.
5. One time small listing fee.
If you list your domains with us it does not prohibit you from listing it elsewhere. We do not require exclusive representation.
We also provide discounts on bulk listings.
More information at
http://www.EasyNameSale.com/sell.htm
You can send your ad to 12,000 potential domain buyers at
http://www.EasyNameSale.com/email.htm
Sincerely,
Melvin Ebenstein
Customer Support
Ok. Keep me informed.
To: "Carter" <
[email protected]
Hello Carter, I have paid them finaly..
Well I should wait 3 days as they require.. going to keep you informed!
It's a big risk to proceed without professional valuation. I already spoke
to industry experts and they prohibited me to do business without
valuation..
Without manual valuation nobody will buy. You'll sit on your domain for
years in this case, paying renewal fees to your registrar. Just think about
it. So sooner or later, you'll have to obtain an appraisal. Why waste time
now?
As a seller, you can use a valuation certificate to sell names to other
buyers. I cannot do the same because I don't keep control over your domain.
I'm still interested in your domain. Hope you'll change your position. I
simply don't want to take additional risks.
Thank you for understanding. I'm looking forward to do business with you.
To: "Carter" <
[email protected]
Hello Carter
I have problem with sending money to the company which make appresial,
well here is the deal.. I am going to sell you the domain for the half
price they provide you for my domain.
If you really need that appresial then please purchase it and just let
me know what they said.
I just spend alot of time with them and I don't want to continue in that
way. Well I keep not trust their services, that is another reason I
don't want work with them too, I am webmaster 10 years ago and I have
very good estimate for what works or not.
Please let me know if that is ok to you and we going to make a deal
I have some another very nice domains so if you are interested we can
talk about it
Carter wrote:
Can you accept 5,000 USD?
Do you sell domain with a web site or just the name?
Domain without content is ok with me. Web site is not necessary.
Have you had your domain names evaluated in the past? I mean domain
appraisals. Without valuation we cannot be sure in the sale price.
It's very important for me in terms of reselling too. But we must
engage a valuation company with REAL manual service. So I will only
accept valuations from independent sources I and my partners trust.
To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal
companies.
Please check this blog with suggestions from other sellers and buyers:
http://webtalk.007sites.com/Archive/461239.htm
If, for example, the valuation comes higher you can adjust your asking
price accordingly. It will be fair. I also hope you can give me 12% -
15% discount.
After you send me the valuation via email (usually it takes 1-2 days
to obtain it) we'll continue our negotiations.
What is your preferred payment method: Escrow.com, International wire
transfer, PayPal.com or something else?
Hope we can come to an agreement fast.
Looking forward to your reply.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Ivaylo Velinov"
To: <
[email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 8:19 PM
Hello,
Please provide your offer
Kind Regards
Ivo
[email protected] wrote:
Hello,
Your domain name has been found online.
Please let us know your price.
We make money on selling and buying names and sites. Now the domain
business is very attractive.
Looking forward to do business with you.
Regards,
Anthony Carter
Vice President
Elite Capital Investment Group
