Robert Gardos from EliteInvestment.net

[WillCast]

Hello,

I just got an email from this person telling me that they are interested in one my domains.

I made a search on this forum and the general feeling is that he is trying to cheat people so I'll post it here just to call your attention.

The email body is the very same I found here and there but I'll quote it too:

from [email protected]
to (me)
date Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 2:32 PM
subject Offer for (my domain) (sent 08/29/2008)

Hello,

Your domain name has been found online.

Please let us know your price.

We make money on selling and buying names and sites. Now the domain business is very attractive.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Regards,
Robert Gardos
CEO Elite Technologies
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[asips77]

I also got the email from eliteinvestments. This time, his name is Donald Urbanski:

Hello,

What is the price of your domain?

Investing in domains is a profitable business and our company is
interested in good and easy-to-remember domain names.

Looking forward to do business with you.

If you have other domains for sale feel free to send your list.

Regards,
Donald Urbanski
CEO
Elite Invest LLC

 

[ctsorotes83]

I've got two emails from a Don Urbanski at eliteinvestments lol quite funny.

I really want to find the person emailing me

RE: slapmyex.com (sent 04/09/09)‏
From: Christopher M. J Tsorotes ([email protected])
Sent: Sunday, 12 April 2009 11:20:47 AM
To: [email protected]

I don't really want to spend $200US an hour to be quite frank, its a bit steep.

I manage a commercial & residential property valuation firm in Melbourne and our rates are $150AU per hour. Which involves full property inspection, photographs, engineers reports and research on comparable properties in the area.

Either way I have just had an offer from an Australian film production company who is starting work on a movie coincidentally called "Slap My Ex" their offer is $2500AU without going through the valuation process.


Regards

Chris


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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: slapmyex.com (sent 04/09/09)
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 12:58:47 +0400


We both need independent valuation first.

Sellers always provide buyers with valuations. This is a common practice.

I don't trust $14 services like that GoDaddy's valuation service. Nobody will do a research for $14. We need a real manual service.

I researched several companies and here are the results:

I wanted to engage AccurateDomains.com as appraiser but looks like this company has very bad reputation
Just read this blog
http://accuratedomains.blogspot.com/
So I'm not going to accept this fraudulent service.

I also considered www.Afternic.com, but now it's clear their service is not reliable enough.
Just read this:
http://www.igoldrush.com/links3.htm
"Capsule Review: After lots of complaints, Afternic is no longer a recommended service. We will re-review the service in the near future."

Another complaint
http://www.out-law.com/page-1630


I was told about manual research service from http://www.DomainMart.com. It costs - $200/hour.

Many experienced sellers suggested me www.DomainExplorer.org as a trustworth manual service. They charge per name not per hour. I've read only positive comments about them.
----- Original Message -----
From: Christopher M. J Tsorotes
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 11:51 AM
Subject: RE: slapmyex.com (sent 04/09/09)


Well your getting 3 Domains for $5,000, $10,000 less than you offered me for one.

With the money you save you can afford to pay an independant valuer.

Cheers

Chris



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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: slapmyex.com (sent 04/09/09)
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 10:15:57 +0400


It's a standard practice to show independent valuation to buyers/resellers.
Nobody will do business without it. I'm a businessman and have no intention
of changing rules which help both parties to avoid additional risks.

Of course, investors never take into account auto-generated valuations. So
manual valuation is a "must" too.

I read the following information about appraisals at:
http://domainblog.007sites.com/693018.htm


----- Original Message -----
From: Christopher M. J Tsorotes
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 3:48 AM
Subject: RE: slapmyex.com (sent 04/09/09)



How about I sell you all 3 for $5,000 USD and we forget the domain appraisals, they are a waste of time and effort.

I prefer paypal or international wire.

Regards

Chris



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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: slapmyex.com (sent 04/09/09)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 10:28:36 +0400



We were celebrating newborn child of my brother. I apologize for delay with my answer.

Can you accept 15,000 USD?

I'm also interested in
LetsMakeYouSexy.com
LetMeMakeYouSexy.com


Do you sell domain with a web site or just the name?

Domain without content is ok with me. Web site is not necessary.

Have you had your domain names evaluated in the past? I mean domain appraisals. Without valuation we cannot be sure in the sale price. It's very important for me in terms of reselling too. But we must engage a valuation company with REAL manual service. So I will only accept valuations from independent sources I and my partners trust.

To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal companies.

Please check this blog with suggestions from other sellers and buyers:
http://domainblog.007sites.com/693018.htm

If, for example, the valuation comes higher you can adjust your asking price accordingly. It will be fair. I also hope you can give me 12% - 15% discount.

After you send me the valuation via email (usually it takes 1-2 days to obtain it) we'll continue our negotiations.

What is your preferred payment method: Escrow.com, International wire transfer, PayPal.com or something else?

Hope we can come to an agreement fast.

Looking forward to your reply.



----- Original Message -----
From: Christopher M. J Tsorotes
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 6:54 AM
Subject: RE: slapmyex.com (sent 04/09/09)


Donald


I'm possibly interested.


Some undeveloped domain names I have are:


1. MelbourneAustralian.com
2. SlapMyEx.com
3. SheSoHorny.com
4. LetsMakeYouSexy.com
5. LetMeMakeYouSexy.com
6. MarketsGoCrashing.com
7. EconomiCollapse.com


I am currently planning to develop SlapMyEx.com, however what sort of value do you have in mind?


Regards


Chris

> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: slapmyex.com (sent 04/09/09)
> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 03:32:59 -0700
>
> Hello,
>
> What is the price of your domain?
>
> Investing in domains is a profitable business and our company is
> interested in good and easy-to-remember domain names.
>
> Looking forward to do business with you.
>
> If you have other domains for sale feel free to send your list.
>
> Regards,
> Donald Urbanski
> CEO
> Elite Invest LLC
> ========================================================
> NOTICE - This communication may contain confidential and privileged
> information that is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any
> viewing, copying or distribution of, or reliance on this message by
> unintended recipients is strictly prohibited. If you have received this
> message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message
> and deleting it from your computer.
> ========================================================
>

After reading some replies here I sent another email:

Actually Don



I've had a change of heart.



How about you just pay for my airfare and we can meet in person? I am more than happy to do a deal for my porfolio of domain names, I own quite a lot and i'm not really interested in money.



In exchange for my portfolio of 1,401 domain names : I will use the most bluntest object I can find, and I shall proceed to savagely beat you over the head with it, I shall continue hitting you until you bleed from your ears and nose and your eye roll back into your skull. Once that is done I shall sodomise you with a broken beer bottle until your colon collapses and you die from blood loss.



Once that is done I shall transfer all domain names into the name of EliteInvestments and I'll consider it a pleasure doing business with you.



Let me know if this deal is suitable for you, I think its quite fair.



Best Regards



Chris

 

[Kate]

The end of the message was hilarious but I'm not sure their grasp of English is sufficient to understand the irony :D

 

[chikatetsu]

Hello everyone.. Im new to this forum and the world of domaining. I found this forum after looking up eliteinvesments on google. I had recently parked a couple of sites and advertised there sale price.

I was doing backflips with sheer excitement upon recieving an email offering me $15,000 for one of my domain names. wow my first sale and such easy money I thought... but once my head started to clear after all them yippiees and viva las vegas moments I had the stark realization that this elite investments was nothing but a scam. Ive seen it all before with other online ways of making money so actually was not so dissapointed.

This "DON URBANKSI" chap even had the cheek to try and make himself look human with...

"We were celebrating newborn child of my brother. I apologize for delay with my answer"

The whole email basically is the same as most of your posts on here regarding the independent appraisal and the adjusting of the % price etc etc.

Ive loved reading some of your posts on here regarding this ELITE INVESTER.. Hahahaha!


I was thinking to reply to his oh so generous offer but really dont have the time for this kind of game.

Oh well... hope to sell me first domain sometime soon... 15k would be a lovely start for sure... Hehe.


Cheers all
Paul

 

[nascar59]

received four emails from them same script but different email names watch out

 

[doriang]

me too

Argh, he got me.

I fell for it and bought the appraisal before I wised up and found posts about the scam. This time he's "Sean Thompson".


I've lost $80 and learned a lesson. I guess AboutNASCAR.com isn't worth $5,900!

 

[Len]

Just reading through this post there are at least a couple who have been stung by this scam @ around $80 each.

Let's say that the success rate for this scam is 4% (4 in 100 pay for an appraisal), for every 1000 emails sent this guy potentially makes $3,200.

It is not beyond the realms of possibility that 10,000 such emails could be sent per month, as they are all generic copies with the domain name changed.

This could result in a return of $16,000 @ 2% - $32,000 @ 4% per month!! All this for doing very little besides answering emails.

 

[chikatetsu]

SCAM ARTIST - Using many aliases!

Hi All, :tu:

I have just recieved my 2nd offer that is truly too good to be true. This time I checked out the scamsters website which preaches his trading etiquette... haha, I imagine this person knows zilch about financial trading. Heres his name and address as in the whois directory...

Smerdon, Thomas
11 High Street
Stoke, Hamdon TA14 6PP
United Kingdom
441935824917

THEONLINEBROKERAGE.COM _\|/_


This person goes under (amongst tons of other names) Christopher Eagleson

Dont fall for this scamsters offers for your domain as it will end up costing you money for their apprasial service!



cheers :hehe: