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It continues to aggravate me every time domain investors are characterized as "squatters". This morning I read an interesting article about something called "The New Internet". In the article, two things caught my eye....

Businesses and individuals/communities looking to purchase a domain on The New Internet, as well as the internet domain market overall, will benefit from the security of the platform due to the authenticated nature of all users. Here's how:

  • Businesses - Since all users on The New Internet are authenticated, businesses know who are really visiting their sites, granting access to more accurate analytics about their online customers without having to worry about bots skewing results of online ads and more.
  • Individuals and Communities - In addition to enhanced site analytics, security and pricing, individuals and communities have the added benefit of unique and creative expression when choosing their domain and extension -- for example, "first name.last name" style options offer a more personal way to market yourself and group.
  • The Domain Market - Current domain owners on the "old internet" have the chance to purchase their domain name on The New Internet as well. Authenticated Reality is also addressing the issue of domain squatting by allowing the purchase of domains on The New Internet that are currently parked by squatters on the old internet.
"When we heard that The New Internet was opening domain names on the platform, we saw this as a great opportunity...

Not sure how they plan to do this, but it sounds weird. What do you think of this whole idea?

Here's a link to the full article:

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...t-users-from-phishing-and-more-300430882.html
 
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I don't know that many businesses would stand behind this type of authentication to automatically access services universally. Imagine all your services were there and you don't have to log in. It's like a hack one, hack all system. He is basically saying that all the existing internet security technology is not enough, somehow not effective. Weird.
 
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TheNewInternet.com

We better squat on it real fast before they register it for legitimate business!!

By the way, who owns the land your house sits on? What about the person before him? The government sold all the land and we buy and sell the properties after the fact. Domain Names are Domain Properties, if you want a million dollar property then you have to be prepared to pay for it.... period.

You would not believe it, but there are countries in which you can't buy any land and claim the ownership. But they still trade with the land, because it's a kind of 99 year lease from the government. It has some similarities to domain trading. You are quasi the owner for as long as you are granted to lease from the government. Squatters? No chance! :)
 
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Some guesswork on how it works:

Since they require their own browser and/or Android app to be installed (which probably has a browser within it), they likely route all traffic through a proxy which uses custom DNS root files to map the domains to alternate IPs. So for the same domain, say, example.com, you'd see one version on the "old" Internet and another version possibly on the "new" internet.

Technically very feasible. Potentially successful and sensible? Don't think so!
 
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Although the founders backgrounds are impressive, I got the impression it's more of a Authenticated Search/user service for users that might not want to deal with the growing problems of skank on the unfettered WWW
Pay to play eventually for sure. Commoditizing user data.

"addressing the issue of domain squatting by allowing the purchase of domains on The New Internet that are currently parked by squatters on the old internet" what!!!!!! Who the **LL.com gave them permission to "address parked domains as squatters" and sell a "clone" on their private network? That's beyond BS. It's hijacking! One of the more nefarious issues they claim to "solve"

Quotes from Sir Tim-Berners Lee in an interview with the Guardian,
The data we create about ourselves should be owned by each of us, not by the large companies that harvest it, the Tim Berners-Lee, the inventor of the world wide web,
Addressing the privacy implications of such a world, Berners-Lee argued that the burden of tracking should be moved from the typical web user to the individuals and organisations with access to our data.
“We turn tracking around: … make tracking something that we do to the people who use our data.”

The inventor of the world wide web believes an online "Magna Carta" is needed to protect and enshrine the independence of the medium he created and the rights of its users worldwide.
Sir Tim Berners-Lee told the Guardian the web had come under increasing attack from governments and corporate influence and that new rules were needed to protect the "open, neutral" system.
Speaking exactly 25 years after he wrote the first draft of the first proposal for what would become the world wide web, the computer scientist said: "We need a global constitution – a bill of rights."
Berners-Lee's Magna Carta plan is to be taken up as part of an initiative called "the web we want", which calls on people to generate a digital bill of rights in each country – a statement of principles he hopes will be supported by public institutions, government officials and corporations.
"Unless we have an open, neutral internet we can rely on without worrying about what's happening at the back door, we can't have open government, good democracy, good healthcare, connected communities and diversity of culture. It's not naive to think we can have that, but it is naive to think we can just sit back and get it."
Berners-Lee has been an outspoken critic of the American and British spy agencies' surveillance of citizens following the revelations by National Security Agency whistleblower Edward Snowden. In the light of what has emerged, he said, people were looking for an overhaul of how the security services were managed.
His views also echo across the technology industry, where there is particular anger about the efforts by the NSA and Britain's GCHQ to undermine encryption and security tools – something many cybersecurity experts say has been counterproductive and undermined everyone's security.
Principles of privacy, free speech and responsible anonymity would be explored in the Magna Carta scheme. "These issues have crept up on us," Berners-Lee said. "Our rights are being infringed more and more on every side, and the danger is that we get used to it. So I want to use the 25th anniversary for us all to do that, to take the web back into our own hands and define the web we want for the next 25 years."

The web constitution proposal should also examine the impact of copyright laws and the cultural-societal issues around the ethics of technology.
While regional regulation and cultural sensitivities would vary, Berners-Lee said he believed a shared document of principle could provide an international standard for the values of the open web.
He is optimistic that the "web we want" campaign can be mainstream, despite the apparent lack of awareness of public interest in the Snowden story.

"We need our lawyers and our politicians to understand programming, to understand what can be done with a computer. We also need to revisit a lot of legal structure, copyright law – the laws that put people in jail which have been largely set up to protect the movie producers … None of this has been set up to preserve the day to day discourse between individuals and the day to day democracy that we need to run the country," he said.
Berners-Lee also spoke out strongly in favour of changing a key and controversial element of internet governance that would remove a small but symbolic piece of US control. The US has clung on to the Iana contract, which controls the dominant database of all domain names, but has faced increased pressure post-Snowden.
He said: "The removal of the explicit link to the US department of commerce is long overdue. The US can't have a global place in the running of something which is so non-national. There is huge momentum towards that uncoupling but it is right that we keep a multi-stakeholder approach, and one where governments and companies are both kept at arm's length."
Berners-Lee also reiterated his concern that the web could be balkanised by countries or organisations carving up the digital space to work under their own rules, whether for censorship, regulation or commerce.
We all have to play a role in that future, he said, citing resistance to proposed copyright theft regulation.
He said: "The key thing is getting people to fight for the web and to see the harm that a fractured web would bring. Like any human system, the web needs policing and of course we need national laws, but we must not turn the network into a series of national silos."
He has stuck firmly to the principle of openness, inclusivity and democracy since he invented the web in 1989, choosing not to commercialise his model. Rejecting the idea that government and commercial control of such a powerful medium was inevitable, Berners-Lee said it would be impossible: "Not until they prise the keyboards from our cold, dead fingers."
 
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They are trying to move a mountain with some techie dude from Silicon valley that just made 500m off his last startup. Looks like he has money to burn 14k is a drop in the sand. Funny that the show Sillycon valley this April is about the new internet maybe that 14k was not a bad investment.

I did download the browser they have for android and went to news.gay as in the video above and it was pretty cool it worked.
 
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Btw, wasn't exactly the same thing tried before? Or something very similar... Don't remember the details...
 
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"When we heard that The New Internet was opening domain names on the platform, we saw this as a great opportunity...

Not sure how they plan to do this, but it sounds weird. What do you think of this whole idea?
 
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BY CALEB PERSHAN IN ARTS & ENTERTAINMENT

"Silicon Valley is back on April 23rd with a fourth season on HBO, meaning the series has officially outlasted most startups".

Let's hope the series Silicon Valley outlasts this start up. Wouldn't be surprised if they paid to "advertise-by way of product placement"
A criminal organization who's only real product is large scale theft of an individuals information. IMHO.
 
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Ya I tried a fake drivers license and it was rejected so they are differently checking the drivers license to see if it is fake or not. From the looks above thread someone said they only hire employees with security clearance so they must have a tie to the government to be able to get clearance. The whole thing smells like a government scamming the masses into a new internet that they can see everything about you and nothing is safe!
 
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Are people really going to send in their Driver's Licenses to browse the web?

Implicitly people agree to that when they use FB and they don't seem to care.
 
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Calling all Squatters...

Fakenewinternet.com

Fakenewsinternet.com

Fakenewnet.com

all there for the taking for regfee.
 
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I don't really care I tried to use a fake one first but I wanted to see how this worked so i used my real one. Note from above what I can tell so far there is no DNS setting changes needed, just download the browser signup and your in along with all of your information. The browser is sending every page i goto to thier system it looks like so they can pickup comments on every page of the internet. anyone want the pcap file (wireshark trace) let me know i can post it (geekout). I did not try to buy a domain yet but well try later maybe.
 
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Btw, wasn't exactly the same thing tried before? Or something very similar... Don't remember the details...

Yes I remember that, it was to let you create weird domains using DNS, probably free but not widely taken up, can anyone remember/find/link it?
 
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Making the internet safe again? It was never safe. Does seem to be a bit of a walled garden effort to trade on the fears of the less clueful internet users. I suppose that Realnames will be making a return next.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RealNames

Regards...jmcc
 
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more free domains in com...

authentic8r

authenticrap

fakeauth
Making the internet safe again? It was never safe.

And handing out personal info makes it less safe. Not just in terms of hacking, but spamming - you already have companies like Lead Forensics that say they make it possible for you to contact anonymous visitors to your website to try to sell them stuff.
 
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I think this is a great idea! It's like u have a secret alternative to Tor with alternative websites. . .

It would work well and b successful if they got rid of the ID requirement tho :cautious: that's the only roadblock.

but I'm envisioning it being viral if like there's this awesome website and the domain is like: "namepros.com" and like it's all mystical and mysterious because u can only get to it if u use their browser. So all the cool kids will b like: "oooo there's this cool website XD. Namepros.com!" "Oh really? Let me seeee *types in namepros.com in Firefox" "Huh? How is this cool? it's just a bunch of ppl selling, I think, squat." "No no no hahaha ! Ur not 'initiated' so u can't get to this awesome website ^_^ u have to use a seeeecret super app. Only way to get there teehee!"

^ and htat's what makes it viral :-P
 
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People are actually sending in their identification and payment information and agreeing to let them directly link everything that they do in the browser to your id? What could go wrong?

I don't think that there's a huge market for websites that are very difficult to find/require an exclusive browser. I want everyone with money to find my site, not some secret cabal of knuckleheads.
 
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What these guys are doing should be illegal and they should be shut down PPI information? Driver licenses? It is interesting to note that my DNS is not changed in my android phone so they are not changing the DNS in my phone so how are they doing this? Safe? they want to make it safe by handing out my driver license to each owner of a website? Crazy . and lead forensics does not work I tried that to it only tells you a reverse DNS lookup of who owns the domain and gives you the phone number of the company not of the person that is looking at your site. I guess this company could give the owner of the website your real info even your phone number to get ahold of you not just the company number like Lead Forensics so i guess i can see value in that but who wants to give up their drivers license?
 
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What these guys are doing should be illegal and they should be shut down PPI information? Driver licenses? It is interesting to note that my DNS is not changed in my android phone so they are not changing the DNS in my phone so how are they doing this?
Web requests being sent to their proxy webserver which handles the DNS lookup? All their browser has to have is the IP address and port of their webserver(s).

Regards...jmcc
 
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Just wow.... What a bad idea.

Imagine the sales pitch for selling domains on ones own internet lol
 
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What happens when someone hacks into their database and gets all the info? And don't tell me that its hack proof.

You nailed it. That's exactly the problem; no system ever is hack proof...
 
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It's an old idea, New.net had some limited success in it but the need to install an extension on your computer in order to translation their domains using their own exclusive DNS database. I see they are also pushing their own browser so that will make it easier for those who download it to see their registered sites. The New.net venture failed because of the need for installing this software/extension so these site's reach will always be limited. You can NOT send a link to one of their registered domains to anyone who does not already use them, so bye bye to the overwhelming majority of Internet users.
Here is the archive snapshot of New.net:
http://web.archive.org/web/20120210194847/https://www.new.net/
I actually was a part of a team who tried this as well in over 10 years ago, the project was called LiveRoot and we had almost finished with it and ready to roll it out, but then the main founder changed his mind and abandoned it. This brings back a lot of memories and some dreams of a new big venture... which did not see the light. There was a patent application for the project which can be seen here:
https://www.google.com/patents/US20070180056
I see now that it has been heavily cited by GoDaddy and other in their patent applications since then.
Bottom line, this has been thought of and tried but always failed, what brought it back to live now, seems to be all the talk and news about fake news, spying and other scams, so the new venture wrapped up the old idea in new clothes (purpose) to try and sell it today. Good luck to them...
Keep in mind that their domains have NOTHING to do with the wide open Internet
 
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I don't know what domain investors have to do so that people stop using the term "squatters".

You know... They'll probably never stop using the term "squatters". Yes it's infuriating, but on the bright side, you own the name and the name callers don't! :xf.smile:

We are the stars dear fellow domain investors; remember the following quote:

"You can be the moon and still be jealous of the stars." - Gary Allan
 
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