Registrations vs Sales

[equity78]

Looking to broaden perspective to get the non .tv non.mobi domainer opinion.

.tv Premium registrations are not counted as sales in the DN Journal weekly sales report.

In Feb 06 Ron at DN Journal was asked about this and he said:

Originally Posted by Duke No, regardless of price a new registration is a new registration not a domain sale. The purpose of the domain sales column is to track aftermarket sales (the same purpose comparable real estate sales reports serve in the real world where the cost of new construction is a different animal).

Very few people who have registered .tv domains have been able to sell them in the aftermarket because the registry has kept all of the profit potential in the domains for themselves. That being the case the extension has primarily appealed to developers who must build real businesses on the domains if they ever hope to recoup their investment. Nothing wrong with doing that but it's a completely different game than aftermarket sales.


That was before the .mobi auctions which are basically someone buying from the registry, but they do have more than one bidder a lot of the time obviously.

So what do you think they should both be counted as sales ?
Only .mobi ?
Neither


Thank you for your time

 

[-REECE-]

.mobis are auctions, hence representing worldwide demand. While a rich noob (not naming names) could theoretically buy everything up, just as could be done with .tv, whatever price is reached theoretically means someone else was willing to pay winner's amount minus bid increment.

In that sense, .mobi sales (when reported as completed sales) are more reflective of reality than even most of the other extensions regularly reported in DN Journal, which, like .TV, are the result of a single buyer and a single seller (in .tv's case, Demand Media).

If sales were included in the guide, I'm sure it might very well spur demand for the extension but -- they're not really sales and they are priced sufficiently high that we rarely hear of successful flips and the sole fact that we remember these "successful flips" is somewhat akin to heuristic availability :imho:

Looking to broaden perspective to get the non .tv non.mobi domainer opinion.

.tv Premium registrations are not counted as sales in the DN Journal weekly sales report.

In Feb 06 Ron at DN Journal was asked about this and he said:

Originally Posted by Duke No, regardless of price a new registration is a new registration not a domain sale. The purpose of the domain sales column is to track aftermarket sales (the same purpose comparable real estate sales reports serve in the real world where the cost of new construction is a different animal).

Very few people who have registered .tv domains have been able to sell them in the aftermarket because the registry has kept all of the profit potential in the domains for themselves. That being the case the extension has primarily appealed to developers who must build real businesses on the domains if they ever hope to recoup their investment. Nothing wrong with doing that but it's a completely different game than aftermarket sales.


That was before the .mobi auctions which are basically someone buying from the registry, but they do have more than one bidder a lot of the time obviously.

So what do you think they should both be counted as sales ?
Only .mobi ?
Neither


Thank you for your time

 

[Pred]

both sales imho

both held back, one has fixed price though. also is an annual fee, so strictly speaking is not a sale, but a reg fee, but as an indicator of what people are paying for .tv is a good guide and what they are prepared to pay annually.

howver whilst writing this i can understand why Dnjournal doesn't include tbh

 

[Alex]

.mobi 's are a one time buy, then the regfee is normal.

At .tv the renewal fee is the same, so it is not just that they sell a domain, but make a contract with the buyer who will pay those registration fees again and again. So it is not a classic sale, and cannot be compared to domain sales even if they are sales of the registry like in the case of mtld.

 

[domainer50]

I voted for both