Price increase

[domainacrobat]

As you may or may not know verisign will be increasing the registation and renewal fees for ALL tlds including .TV. This will effect all registrars. If you are holding 100's or 1000's of names now may be a good time to renew and save yourself a bundle. Be sure to do so before October 2008.

 

[weblord]

thanks for the headsup.

 

[Len]

From what I can gather Verisign can raise the price on all domains a max of 7.00% per year. ICANN set the 7.00% cap with possible thoughts that this gave enough room to Verisign to apply a raise it in line with the rate of inflation. The US inflation figure for July is 5.60% so by October,2008 it could be around 7.00%.
However, they raised the prices by the max 7.00% last year when inflation was at 3.54% so it looks like they are going to take advantage of the 7.00% hikes no matter what.

 

[Halobitt]

From what I can gather Verisign can raise the price on all domains a max of 7.00% per year.

What the hell happened with the .sc registry then? It went from $35 to $89 I think, with about a weeks warning. 7% would have been nicer.

 

[Len]

Verisign does not handle .sc domains it is run by nic.sc who can implement whatever price they feel fit.

 

[Halobitt]

Thanks Len. Tried to rep you, but seems I've done that too recently.

If only I'd known, before losing a bundle. 7% seems like a bargain.

 

[Jackie]

What the hell happened with the .sc registry then? It went from $35 to $89 I think, with about a weeks warning. 7% would have been nicer.

I posted about this issue on ICANN's "public participation site"
http://public.icann.org/en/node/1399

Anybody can sign up for an account and post about issues on there.

I actually emailed ICANN the same message I posted there via their "Contact Us" form and I got a unhelpful response which reads like this.
That doesn't show any will to address the problem on their part.

Thank you for your inquiry concerning country code TLD registration.

ICANN does not accredit registrars or set registration policies for ccTLDs. For details about ccTLD registration policies, you should contact the designated country code manager.

A list of all delegated country code TLDs and their designated managers is available at <http://www.iana.org/cctld/cctld-whois.htm>.

Best regards,

ICANN Services

 

[Domagon]

ccTLDs are natorious for dramatic price changes both up and down. Plus some ccTLDs feature variable pricing, such as .TV.

ccTLDs are ultimately controlled by the country to whom they are associated with ... ICANN has relatively little control.

In regards to gTLDs, ICANN ultimately calls the shots, but gTLD registries have leeway in what they charge based on the particular contract they have with ICANN.

For example, Public Interest Registry (PIR) can raise .ORG prices by upto 10% per year while VeriSign is limited to 7% increases per year for 4 years out of 7.

Sending complaints to ICANN regarding ccTLD pricing may feel good, but likely accompish little - what may help though is sending complaints to various high-level officials of the country the ccTLD is associated with.

In regards to gTLDs, complaining to ICANN may help - especially around contract renewal time, which varies for each gTLD.

With all that said, it seems that large market penetration is ultimately what keeps prices stabalized / reasonable for some TLDs, such as .COM.

In contrast, TLDs with less usage tend to see larger price variations; not just ccTLDs, but gTLDs too to some extent, such as one sees with PIR's .ORG 10% upcoming price increase.

Ron

 

[accent]

Does anybody have the list of which extensions will go up and the amounts? Info is Affilas I think, are they going up? Mobi is an independent company. Who owns biz? What about .US?

Last year the rises were around October 15, anybody know the dates this year?

 

[GF]

Remember when transferring to a cheaper registrar - the name can't be transferred out for 60 days!

 

[tricolorro]

As you may or may not know verisign will be increasing the registation and renewal fees for ALL tlds including .TV. This will effect all registrars. If you are holding 100's or 1000's of names now may be a good time to renew and save yourself a bundle. Be sure to do so before October 2008.

"As you may or may not know verisign will be increasing the registation and renewal fees for ALL tlds including .TV."

Where'd you get that info?

Verisign is raising prices only on .COM and .NET which they are allowed
to do as part of their Agreement with ICANN two years ago.

Verisign does control .CC and .TV but they do not have any current
plans to raise those prices.

How do I know?

I just called their Virginia office.

ICANN is not involved with Country Codes so they were not part of the Agreement with Verisign. And Verisign is not involved with CCTLDs except .CC and .TV.

You are most likely right though that the other extensions(.ORG, BIZ,.INFO, .US) will increase in price as the Registries match Verisign's price increase
either more or less.

They did that last year.

Patrick

Does anybody have the list of which extensions will go up and the amounts? Info is Affilas I think, are they going up? Mobi is an independent company. Who owns biz? What about .US?

Last year the rises were around October 15, anybody know the dates this year?

"Who owns biz? What about .US? "

The Registry for .BIZ and .US is Neustar.
http://www.neustarregistry.biz/

The Registry for .INFO and .ORG is Afilias.
http://www.afilias.info/gateway/index_html

The .ORG is under license with PIR.org.

Regarding any price increases with those extensions we will just
have to wait and see how much it will be.

The Registries did raise prices last year right after Verisign did.

You can bet they'll do the same this year.

The Registries deal with Registrars and don't want to give out the
pricing info to the general public.

Sadly, we'll know soon enough though.

Patrick

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I just found this on DomainNameNews:
http://snurl.com/DotOrgIncrease

"The .ORG registry operator, Public Interest Registry (PIR) has sent a letter to ICANN announcing their intention to increase their registration fees by 10% as of November 9th, 2008. The price increase brings the price for registrars up to $6.75 from $6.15 after last year’s price increase by 2.5%."

 

[domainacrobat]

My godaddy customer representative informed me of the price increases. He warned that though you may not see the actual price increase immediately, he stressed that it would inevietably affect every registrar and .TV rates.

-I just had an afterthought, maybe he was just trying to get me to renew the huge chunk of .TV names that just expired...I wouldnt put it past them. LOL

"As you may or may not know verisign will be increasing the registation and renewal fees for ALL tlds including .TV."

Where'd you get that info?

Verisign is raising prices only on .COM and .NET which they are allowed
to do as part of their Agreement with ICANN two years ago.

Verisign does control .CC and .TV but they do not have any current
plans to raise those prices.

How do I know?

I just called their Virginia office.

ICANN is not involved with Country Codes so they were not part of the Agreement with Verisign. And Verisign is not involved with CCTLDs except .CC and .TV.

You are most likely right though that the other extensions(.ORG, BIZ,.INFO, .US) will increase in price as the Registries match Verisign's price increase
either more or less.

They did that last year.

Patrick



"Who owns biz? What about .US? "

The Registry for .BIZ and .US is Neustar.
http://www.neustarregistry.biz/

The Registry for .INFO and .ORG is Afilias.
http://www.afilias.info/gateway/index_html

The .ORG is under license with PIR.org.

Regarding any price increases with those extensions we will just
have to wait and see how much it will be.

The Registries did raise prices last year right after Verisign did.

You can bet they'll do the same this year.

The Registries deal with Registrars and don't want to give out the
pricing info to the general public.

Sadly, we'll know soon enough though.

Patrick

---
I just found this on DomainNameNews:
http://snurl.com/DotOrgIncrease

"The .ORG registry operator, Public Interest Registry (PIR) has sent a letter to ICANN announcing their intention to increase their registration fees by 10% as of November 9th, 2008. The price increase brings the price for registrars up to $6.75 from $6.15 after last year’s price increase by 2.5%."

 

[vlad74]

What if you pay for, lets say, 5 years in advance. In case of fee increase after a year or two, will you be additionally charged for the difference?

 

[accent]

What if you pay for, lets say, 5 years in advance. In case of fee increase after a year or two, will you be additionally charged for the difference?

No, at least for com net org info biz.


I believe the registrys have to give 6 months notice of price increases to ICANN (maybe not for ccTLDs).

 

[Jackie]

What if you pay for, lets say, 5 years in advance. In case of fee increase after a year or two, will you be additionally charged for the difference?

Nope. That's why people are being encouraged to renew the names that they plan to keep for the long-term a few years into the future.

 

[labrocca]

However, they raised the prices by the max 7.00% last year when inflation was at 3.54% so it looks like they are going to take advantage of the 7.00% hikes no matter what.

Did you really think they wouldn't? ICANN basically is giving verisign permission to print money. I can tell that corruption is going to start creeping into the top tiers of domain control. There is just too much money involved at this point. If you can buy a judge or a congressman you can certainly buy the ICANN board members.

 

[Pred]

Did you really think they wouldn't? ICANN basically is giving verisign permission to print money. I can tell that corruption is going to start creeping into the top tiers of domain control. There is just too much money involved at this point. If you can buy a judge or a congressman you can certainly buy the ICANN board members.

:bingo:
that goes too for those inbreds over at wipo too
but then most lawyers and judges are bent and would do anything for a dishonest penny imho _\|/_