Pressing Charges against paypal.

[Profit|Jacob]

We are pressing charges and starting a lawsuit against paypal.

Would like to know about some experiences from other users with paypal, and how to face them.

We allready are known with:

www.paypalsucks.com

We are also thinking on taking paypal into the media, for this we have contacted the dutch television program "opgelicht" wich means in english something like "ripped off".

Would like some experiences from you!

To show a bit of why we are doing this:

Official losses from december upto end of april : EUR 956
Additional losses of clients during this time: EUR 7566

 

[Falian]

Good Luck Buddy, They have alot of well-dressed lawyers that will make your life living hell.

 

[-db-]

To show a bit of why we are doing this:

Official losses from december upto end of april : EUR 956
Additional losses of clients during this time: EUR 7566

How about providing us with some more detailed information about what happened to you, before soliciting others to tell their stories. We know nothing about your claim except a couple figures you posted.

 

[Profit|Jacob]

ok friends

Ok, officially i'm not allowed to post the practic details of the situation. (This is because of the investigation.)

But I will tell you the following:

I have used paypal for years, never any problems. Have had a total of 6 accounts during the past years. All went fine. Now, some day we got a problem with a buyer, filed a chargeback, wich we made. After that paypal got suspicious. The 6 accounts we have used (as a business) have all been blocked. So far so good, not a really big problem, issues are issues, we can't care much. Paypal told to send us information on how to withdraw the money that was still on the accounts, after 180 days. (recognize it? ) No problem, accounts all blocked, but we can live with it. Now at the beginning of this year, we made a new paypal accounts, to start again with paypal, it's very handy to use at a business. Added a creditcard to it, sent copy ID card, utility bill, sent it by fax, and it was received and accepted. At the resolution center, we check weeks and weeks, but never the account gets verified. Paypal sends us a message telling Your account cannot be verified because of old issues with other accounts??!!! What the H*ll? Ok so what are these issues, paypal told us everything was allright, the accounts blocked but the money would be withdrawable. Its now almost 8 months later, and the money of the first 6 account is still not withdrawed, nor has there been received any information on how to do it. Also the new account cannot be verified, because of the strange issues.
Now, i'm a patient man, i can wait. But this really has gotten out of hand. We have a good running business, but we can't take care of losses running into 10's of thousands of euro's because we can't use the system correctly or deal with our new and existing clients. I have messaged them over and over again, but always get the same robotic replies.

Good Luck Buddy, They have alot of well-dressed lawyers that will make your life living hell.

I am not affraid of their lawyers, there are some pretty good lawyers in the Netherlands as well!

 

[Morph]

It is going to cost you more than your losses to fight paypal, thousands and thousands.
I wish you luck, but i wouldn't bet on anything.

 

[RickM]

As far as i am aware, its against their terms to have more than one account, business or otherwise.

TBH it seems your after a quick buck, we all know that even if you do win (which is about as likely as the world being cloned), PayPal wont change their ways AND they wont close.

 

[Peter]

As far as i am aware, its against their terms to have more than one account, business or otherwise.

You are allowed 2 accounts 1 business and 1 personal (you can't just have 2 personal accounts and say 1 is for business). If you have more it flags in their system apparently.

 

[jberryhill]

Your existing accounts were frozen, and so you tried to open up additional accounts and expected them to work?

That doesn't strike me as a reasonable expectation.

 

[sdtrader]

I don't think any lawyer would handle this-it would get dismissed after 3 questions:

How many accounts?
Six plus another.
How many did you agree to in the terms of their service?
Two.
What is agreed to as penalty for breaking the terms of the agreement?
Forfeiture or freezing of funds.
Case Dismissed.

In my thinking you can only win if you can show that they broke the terms of the agreement and I can't see it here.But then again I am not a lawyer-just a buyer of
mediocre domains. LoL

Scratch that-nearly mediocre!

 

[donlee]

i personally think ebay/paypal is the devil, but i use them cause i have to. anyhow i don't think you stand a chance in hell of getting anthing from paypal. Paypal have some very unrespectable practices but the thing is, most of you guys who have been "scammed" were scamming paypal in the first place with bogus accounts, to many accounts, fake info, or whatever. As far as the 180 days thing, it will be another cold day in hell before my account gets frozen for 180 days whether i have to fly to california and make a "personal" withdrawal or not, but I don't have to worry about it to much cause i play by their rules

 

[Falian]

All im saying is it is unless you are willing to spend way more then you lost, go ahead. I would try to resolve it with them kindly, you threaten a big company and nothing positive comes of it.

 

[Easydoms]

Best of luck with your campaign, Interested in the comments about only 2 accounts.

If you had more would it give reason for Paypal to block accounts.

 

[andyy15]

I think this a good lesson on why you should not use paypal as a business and why you should instead use a credit card processor. Good luck with suing paypal, doubt you will get to far with your case after looking at the above facts.

 

[carltonleon]

I do not think that you have a leg to stand on as you broke their terms and conditions.
Surely some of your good Dutch lawyers told you this !!!!

 

[Profit|Jacob]

The comments are very clear:

The 6 accounts were no 6 accounts at once. Also the paypal accounts are registred by different company employees.

 

[labrocca]

Obviously you are abusing the system if you needed 7 accounts. Another guy coming here to get sympathy on some crack brained lawsuit. You should sue your parents for being born. That would make more sense to me than suing paypal.

I love the "pressing charges" bit...as if Paypal is some criminal organization which you can get the CEO arrested. lol....really this is about as much of a joke as I have seen here. At least the guy with Amazon domain was just a clueless kid. You actually appear to be running a business of some sort. I am not sure how that's possible.

"...it's very handy to use at a business." Yeah well if you ran a decent legit business you could get your own credit card processor CHEAPER than paypal but I am gonna assume this business you run isn't nearly as legit as you want everyone to believe.

I can picture this scenario...you sell some odd digital goods or service and when someone feels ripped off. They get paypal to do a chargeback. But before the chargeback happens you close accounts and move money just in time. Then you wait and open a new account and start fresh. Am I close?

I see your sig profithost is a web host site and registered since Nov. Is my above scenario connected to hosting? How many clients have you duped in the past with those 7 paypal accounts?

Nice choice of username btw...it seems to have a tone to it similar to this thread.

 

[bluesman]

No doubt it's too late to tell you all of the following now, but ONE PayPal account should have worked just fine for your one company. (It's irrelevant if you had a few more employees - they still could have used the same account.)

Also, you should not have used PayPal Plan A - sticking money into an account there that could get frozen. Instead you should have used Plan B, which is PayPal Lite - it merely links your usage of PayPal to your credit card, so it only draws what it needs for individual transactions, while there are never any funds residing at PayPal in case of any freeze, due to a glitch or otherwise.

And, as the others observed, after having all of your accounts cut off by PayPal, rather than resolve that situation first, you instead tried to do an end run around them and open yet ANOTHER account with them?! That's like pouring gasoline on a dead engine block and then wondering why the car still won't start!

 

[realestatewiz]

lol i love people that post they are going to file a lawsuit and they are getting there information for a corporationsucks.com website how ignorant are you

 

[Kenny]

Sorry for your problems with p/p Profit|Jacob.
I visited your hosting site. I found this at the top:

Back And Better!
Pay with Paypal and have your server online within 6 hours!!*

And below:

*6 hours setup time with paypal! This deal does only apply to our iQarus server deals.

Does this mean your issue has been resolved?

 

[cwnt]

Probably means he opened yet another PayPal account and is expecting that one not to be closed.