domain Please appraise This-domain.forsale (for selling nameservers)

[idnex]

Selling nameservers as a free advertisement of your domains in the Whois.
Why not advertise your domains for sale where they are looked for - directly in the Whois service?
We just take a suitable domain, for example, This-domain.forsale, and create private nameservers buy.this-domain.forsale and rent.this-domain.forsale on it with our registrator.
Or, for example, buy.this-domain.forsale, 500usd.this-domain.forsale.
Afterwards, we install these nameservers on our hosting site or VPS and delegate all our domains for sale on them.
This method will help you increase your sales several times, because, as is known, advertising is the engine of commerce.
Also, you can create your hosting site for domains on these nameservers and sell itto anyone who feels like buying it.

 

[deez007]

lol.... I would love to give some input but I have no clue what these.forsale domains are worth mate.

Would be interested to see what some of the more experienced domainers think about this TLD. From an SEO point of view it could have some value with the right words to the left of the domain, in the case of your exact domain... thisdomain.forsale - the search volume for the phrase "this domain for sale" isn't high so you won't be scoring much from the SEO side of things.

As always, this is merely my opinion......

 

[idnex]

lol.... I would love to give some input but I have no clue what these.forsale domains are worth mate.

As a result, for example, we obtain the following records in the Whois service forthe domain umexa.com (see Whois):
Domain Name: UMEXA.COM
Registrar: PDR LTD. D/B/A PUBLICDOMAINREGISTRY.COM
Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID: 303
Whois Server: whois.PublicDomainRegistry.com
Referral URL: publicdomainregistry.com
Name Server: BUY.THIS-DOMAIN.FORSALE
Name Server: RENT.THIS-DOMAIN.FORSALE
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Updated Date: 04-mar-2016
Creation Date: 25-may-2013
Expiration Date: 25-may-2017

 

[deez007]

As a result, for example, we obtain the following records in the Whois service forthe domain umexa.com (see Whois):
Domain Name: UMEXA.COM
Registrar: PDR LTD. D/B/A PUBLICDOMAINREGISTRY.COM
Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID: 303
Whois Server: whois.PublicDomainRegistry.com
Referral URL: publicdomainregistry.com
Name Server: BUY.THIS-DOMAIN.FORSALE
Name Server: RENT.THIS-DOMAIN.FORSALE
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Updated Date: 04-mar-2016
Creation Date: 25-may-2013
Expiration Date: 25-may-2017

BWHAHAHAHAAHAHAH HOLLY COW!!! - Apologies mate - I didn't read your post properly.... - Clearly I was off on a tangent and not even on the same page as you.....hell I was not even on the same book...probably not even in the same library....lol Sorry about that, I been having a day from hell...I'm gonna blame it on work overload and brain fog :P

 

[FanCube]

Can't tell you anything about what you should expect for a .forsale domain. At the moment I don't think they are in high demand so my estimate is regfee.

While I understand your idea, as you probably known it's already used by BuyDomains.com (this-domain-for-sale.com), I doubt the interest would be high enough to make this sustainable. Rather I would see this as a feature offered by companies providing package solutions related to domain auctions, parking etc. For example, Sedo, Flippa etc.

One thing is to offer "marketing name servers" that look catchy in WHOIS, but another thing is to run a stable DNS network. This is not free or easy. Quality DNS service for low traffic domains (having a domain parked, or simply showing a single 'for sale' page does not generate much DNS traffic) is available for free. Some examples of stable free DNS providers are HE.net and Namecheap. Paying for DNS with catchy name servers, but questionable stability is not a winner.

This method will help you increase your sales several times, because, as is known, advertising is the engine of commerce.

I highly doubt this. Can you back it up?

 

[idnex]

One thing is to offer "marketing name servers" that look catchy in WHOIS, but another thing is to run a stable DNS network.

For example, cloudns.net.
"Private DNS servers are fully white-label DNS servers. When you get a Private DNS server, it will be linked with our network and web interface. The Server will be managed and supported by our system administrators and you will be able to manage all your domains via our web interface. Every Private DNS server has included: TTL management, Secondary DNS, Cloud domains, Dynamic DNS, SOA Settings and Hourly statistics, Unlimited DNS zones, etc..."
Only $2.00/month .

 

[FanCube]

I see, your product would not include custom DNS service (outsourcing is the smart choice when it comes to DNS), but only provide the option to use buy/rent.this-domain.forsale instead of dns1...x.cloudns.net. Doubt this is something people would pay for when they can get the same service for free (Cloudns also has a free plan). Potentially people can use your service for free through either the free cloudns plan or an existing paid plan depending on how cloudns.net conducts whois checks if any at all.

Since you are not really providing anything besides some catch name server names you would need to prove that this tactic actually increases chances for a sale as you claim.

 

[idnex]

Since you are not really providing anything besides some catch name server names

The most valuable commodity I know of is information, wouldn't you agree?

 

[FanCube]

Not really sure what you are asking about. Can you back your claim up or not?

 

[idnex]

Can you back your claim up or not?

I am from Russia and I specialize only in .RU domains solely on Telderi Exchange. I can say that now I sell monthly as many domains, as previously I sold per year. The thing is that potential domain buyers are interested in and ask for information in Whois and such advertisement is just in the right place at the right time. I do not understand why I need to prove that advertising works - it's a generally recognized fact. Even Sedo recommends to inscribe in Whois to increase sales:

"How can I sell my domains faster?
...
11. Change the public Whois information for the domain to let people know that the name is for sale. You can update the admin contact information to read: "Owner Name (This name is for sale at Sedo.com)." This setting is adjustable through your registrar. Domain-savvy investors may start with Whois; for secure negotiations, let bidders know up front you want to work through our online marketplace.
..."

Unfortunately, the forum rules do not allow me to give a link or insert an image.

 

[FanCube]

Short term this domain is worth 0 - regfee. Long term most likely the same.

If you believe in this business model go develop it and find out if anyone is actually interested. Simply choosing a low end DNS plan with vanity DNS is probably not gonna workout too well. There is gonna be a lot of manual work included or development of a automatic system. People need to modify DNS records etc. Not sure how much you want to charge. Assuming $1-2/month at the most per domain (doubt this is worth it for domainers) you would need a very high volume to make this sustainable. That's why I rather see a service like this as a (free) feature offered by a domain auction/selling platform such as Sedo or Flippa and not as an independent service.

I do not understand why I need to prove that advertising works - it's a generally recognized fact.

It is also generally recognized that it matters how you spend your advertising budget. IMO, this is not the place to spend. If you are selling domains in the $xx - xxx range, profit is already at a minimum. Just paying listing at auctions sites, renewal etc, is already a considerable spending. Besides, people with some technical knowledge will be able to setup name servers such as "this-domain-for-sale.example.com" free of charge (example.com could be any domain).