Parking domains a joke

[VisionEdger]

this has to be the ultimate scam pulled off by these companies! What a waste of time and energy. I realize domains can generate some traffic and uniques while waiting to be developed (if at all) but this has to be one of the biggest scams on the web today in this business!!

ppc fraud is a self perpetuating scenario due to the terms and conditions laid out by the parkers.

This must be one of the biggest jokes on domainers in the history of domaining.

In time we wil look back at this ludicrous methodology in domaining and wonder wtf was i doing?

whos fed up with the limited options we as domainers have in making $$ with our domains? there must be another alternative. I know of a new domain stock exchange where they will sell shares of youre domains.

 

[Varon]

Nothing is over yet. Domain parking is all about the right effort put in with proper research. No point buying domain names by the hundreds. Its better to own 50-100 high CPC keyword domains and monetize them to the max. Try different templates, keywords, color schemes. Track your CTR with different combinations. Use pleasing web safe colors, keyword rich text (if possible) and so much more. Try your best to work within the limitations of a parking page, yet create a lander which attracts people. Like, if you own a debt consolidation site, use a trusting smiling human face to greet your visitors rather than some picture of a bank or teller handing out cash. Colors like blue/green work very well with finance related sites as it exudes trust.

If you are using arbitrage, write your campaign ad with no frills like "Get Great Deals" etc. Use such words only if you are having some discount deal ads on your parked page. Use some of your Site keywords in your Campaign Ad. Tell your visitor exactly what he/she will find on arriving on your site. These can definitely help conversions.

There are still huge fortunes available to be made. But you have to find those niches. The only difference being that, these days you have to really work hard to find those niches. It was easier and less competitive earlier. I'm glad I joined the domaining group this year when competition is at its high. This has taught me to learn at a rapid pace and grasp as much possible from the Gurus. Every minute is precious. Its a dollar gained or lost.

Considering that today traffic arbitrage is still accepted and prevalent, I can't see why a domain can't make atleast 100-200 bucks a month. Its really straightforward. Its just like the job market. There are a few jobs and twice/thrice those many applicants. The best applicants find a way to win those jobs. The rest give up or end up applying for social security. Its a choice you make.

 

[Badger]

I am not talking about a traffic partner stating they pay so much percentage to the domain owner.

I am talking about a new concept. The parking company actually showing the same stats they recieve.

In other words now they say we pay 50% or whatever. Do you believe them?

How about a parking company showing us each and every click paid the actual monies received to the parking partner for our clicks.

Then we would know for sure what parking company pays the most. The way it is now is like Afternic saying "we pay the most for parking" lol. A newbie may believe these kinds of statements, but any domainer who has been around for a while knows differently.

Parking transparency is not a reality today. The company who does this first will win in the parking game.

Well, theres a simple answer to this, the parking company dont know themselves what each click to each domain earns. They cant even tell you how many bonafide clicks your domain had...

For Google fed parking co's this is because of two reasons; 1 these stats are not reported; parking companies have to rely on their own stats software to guess the clicks and then equate the per click values based on that... So, basically a guess. 2 Of course you are not going to learn which domains get which click amounts.. As soon as this happened the boards would be instantly littered with "I just got $X for my site at [parking company] with this keyword".. And then what do you think would happen?

And another thing, I know Trafficz and one other are looking at being more transparent with regards reporting, and we at iMODO have a unique rev share program coming out (when we finally do "come out" (if you excuse the gay connotations)), but why should the parking companies be obliged to tell you..? Its like going into the BMW garage and saying "yeah, i like the new M5 but tell me dealership, what did you pay for that car from BMW?"... Domainers dont have the relationship with the root feed providers, you have the relationship with the parking company. If you dont like the service etc then you know what to do.. I knowing quite a few of the parking company execs and I have to say that most are left scratching their heads when domainers complain of skimming and short changing..

 

[goodkarmaco]

hocus pocus domain parking

The true profit in domaining is being hidden inside the magic show owned and produced by parking companies.

Lets say we are supposed to receive 90% from our parking company. Lets also say the truth is we are getting only 10% of what we have a contract for, losing out 80%. This scenario may be true or may not be. But lets see where it takes us ok?

So then we take a name that makes at least $30.00 a day and place it for sale. Adding up the math the name brings in roughly $900. a month in parking revenues.

Oh but wait, we are only showing the name with the 10% we are getting paid. If the true amount was paid to us, (90%) the name instead of making $30.00 a day really makes $270.00 a day. Instead of the $900. a month, The true parking earnings would have given us $8,100 per month!.

For simplistic sake lets say we decide to sell the name for only a years traffic income or so. If the above name would bring a sale price of $10,800 to maybe $12,000 because it was only showing the measly $900 a month as its earnings how much would the name sale for if its true pay per click partnership amount was paid to the domain owner? The price for sale then would be $108,000 to $115,000!

Multiply the higher earnings ratio by the thousands of domains sold based on traffic stats and we can see the big screw tightning down on the domain industry.

Now what does that say for the world wide value of domains being sold?

The domain industry is reporting all the domains sold not at market value, but less than market value if we are gettng the shaft. How much money is going somewhere else than in domainers pockets?.

Your guess is as good as mine because its a magic show!

 

[gwkg]

You can easily create your own parking with one page of text and adsense. I think people are getting immune to parking pages since they all look similar.

Once my brain sees a typical parking page template I click the back button within a second or two.

 

[snoop]

What a rant! Let me guess....your names blow and instead of blaming your choice in names you are blaming the parking co?

 

[VisionEdger]

Blow Me

What a rant! Let me guess....your names blow and instead of blaming your choice in names you are blaming the parking co?

hey snoop let me guess you are satisfied with parking bus.?? get off it bud and tell me whats so hot about parking domains?the issue is parking companies with alot of bs terms and conditions that you obviously have been lulled into accepting at face value.

parking names is the biggest scam on the domainer . snoop it seems like you are content with parking? why is that?

ps if you saw my domains u would take back that little comment about the supposed crap i own. ps I own alot of premium .coms and the parking option is still a joke.

 

[snoop]

ps if you saw my domains u would take back that little comment about the supposed crap i own. ps I own alot of premium .coms and the parking option is still a joke.

I'll call your bluff, let's see these "premium .coms".

 

[fatter]

It works for me I have no internet skills and am continuing to increase my portfolio as the parking income gives me the income to go on. i also make a small profit in the meantime my monthly parking check this month is 600.00 my reg fees are 100.00 so i am headed in the right direction

 

[VisionEdger]

?

It works for me I have no internet skills and am continuing to increase my portfolio as the parking income gives me the income to go on. i also make a small profit in the meantime my monthly parking check this month is 600.00 my reg fees are 100.00 so i am headed in the right direction

how long are they parked and with what parker?

 

[kokbaw]

No,domain parking is a good method to drive unused traffic to PPC.

 

[VisionEdger]

kiss off

I'll call your bluff, let's see these "premium .coms".

who are u buddy? call my bluff? i am pissed because parking is a rip off and you want to see my domains so you can rip on them? get off it!!

No,domain parking is a good method to drive unused traffic to PPC.

domain parking is another way to make the companies rich while you are being deluded into thinking otherwise. i know i know, develop, develop. thats the mantra.

 

[fatter]

I underestimated my earnings i forgot i have another 200.00 coming from fabulous too
so profit for the month is 700. by the way i own no TM names or brands of companies all my names are generic I beleive cybersquatters are stealing from me too.

 

[discovernow]

It's simple, easy, and you can leverage time while doing other things like racing sailboats.

 

[snoop]

who are u buddy? call my bluff? i am pissed because parking is a rip off and you want to see my domains so you can rip on them? get off it!!

You just said you owned a whole lot of premium .com's, I doubt that because if that was the case you probably wouldn't be trying to run the argument that domain parking is some kind of scam.

If you want to make money in parking then the first and most obvious step is to seek out names that actually have valuable traffic. It is a bit like someone with buck teeth and no hair complaining there is no money money to be made in modeling.

 

[fatter]

how long are they parked and with what parker?

vision edger I have tried almost all the parking companies I have never been kicked off any of them, I presently am with fabulous who I have been with the longest and are most consistent, and have been with bodis for 2 months, my earnings/profit have been at least 7k a year for several years now, although lately I am making same although i continue to reg more names because the per click rate is going down because of all the scammers out there

some names parked for years some 1 week because i just registered them, just registered some diving names making me money

 

[VisionEdger]

noted

 

[johnny6]

Domain parking certainly has become wildly less profitable in the last year or so. I've seen my earnings decrease by over 75% in the last year via parking.

Clicks at sedo that were making $1 make 12 cents now, fabulous sucks for everything but poker names, namedrive pays ok at times but doesn't seem to optimize domains very well no matter what input I give, my earnings with bodis slipped from $650 the first month to about 1/3rd of that (projected) this month, parked.com has horrible ctr, and whypark (which i suppose isn't technically a parking service) I've had little luck with getting a good click through rate. I just started whypark, so I'm not knocking it yet, I'm sure I have plenty to learn on it.

Still, outside of typos, I don't really see the point in parking anymore.

Development is key.

 

[VisionEdger]

whats the reason behind the payout drop in all parking companies? any ideas?

 

[johnny6]

whats the reason behind the payout drop in all parking companies? any ideas?

Really only a couple of possibilities that I can think of offhand.

1) Decreased payout from the parking companies ad feed provider due to either lower ppc values or click fraud
2) Higher costs of running a parking company, probably due to fraud reporting issues and potential liability
3) Parking companies are taking a larger chunk.
4) Bad tracking.

Frankly, as the cynical person I am, I'm leaning towards #3 as the most prevalent reason (especially for you, sedo) but I'm sure the other ones are in there as well in varying degrees.

 

[mrizos]

why do i always get in on something when the good times are either ending or gone

 

[VisionEdger]

#3 sounds like it should be #1 and you can call it as we all know it- GREED! When they have as much $$ as they do its too easy for them to get more. So we as the suppliers of the domains get shafted. 75%+ in 1 year? sounds like an inevstigation is required into this parking business.

Why is no one getting pissed off about this subject?? I have NOT read a thing about what can be done to change this so domainers are getting the benefits and NOT the super rich parking hosts corps.

We should make a fair profit as much as them and more since we supply the names. It gauls me to the nth degree that the little guy gets it in the backside yet again. Why is this not an issue today???? I am pised right off but knoiw one esle sems to care. and if they do they certainly dont say much about this subject. Are domainers resolved to the fact that once the big boys make their play then we meekly follow along??

There must be alot of top domainers with the savvy connections etc etc on these sites to actually get some real answers. I for one would like to hear some!

It's simple, easy, and you can leverage time while doing other things like racing sailboats.

you moved a few atoms around typing their buddy thats about it. now hard to port and abandon ship!

why do i always get in on something when the good times are either ending or gone

get off the computer and relax a bit .. your thought process needs a reboot...

 

[gwkg]

Parking companies do all the work, we just buy a name. How much money do you want to make for doing nothing? Parking with a parking company is free money (even if it isn't a lot of free money)

In general, anyone who wants to make a lot of money parking domains should park them with themselves. Make a page, put up some ads, cut out the middle man and keep 100% of the click money. Or do nothing except change your nameserver and get whatever percentage an evil parking company chooses to share. It's pretty simple.

Why aren't you ripping the registrars like godaddy who put up ads on your parked domain and don't share a penny?

 

[snoop]

whats the reason behind the payout drop in all parking companies? any ideas?

I would have said the revenue drops for some domainers is largely due to smart pricing (increased quality control and a focus on conversion). I'm not really sure the parking industry has contracted much over the last year. For a 75% drop in a portfolio then something very major is wrong, that isn't an indication of the industry overall.

 

[harkster]

Parking companies do all the work, we just buy a name. How much money do you want to make for doing nothing? Parking with a parking company is free money (even if it isn't a lot of free money)

In general, anyone who wants to make a lot of money parking domains should park them with themselves. Make a page, put up some ads, cut out the middle man and keep 100% of the click money. Or do nothing except change your nameserver and get whatever percentage an evil parking company chooses to share. It's pretty simple.

Why aren't you ripping the registrars like godaddy who put up ads on your parked domain and don't share a penny?

I have been a proponent of development/mini-sites for some time. I am not doing as much right now while watching where Bodis and iMODO are headed.

The thing about development is the hard work it takes and sometimes parking makes more.

If parking companies are thieves then Google (Adsense) must be the king of thieves because it seems to often pay less than parking for same terms. I have seen this when moving back and forth between mini-sites and parking.

Bottom line for the little guy there is no one single solution for all domains.