Parking de-indexed expired domains

[Kasti]

Hi guys!

Do you think it's a good idea to list on bodis (or similar services) promising expired domains which are not indexed anymore?

I guess it all comes down to how easy it is to make it re-indexed by google. But I don't have enough experience on that so I'll ask you the following questions:

1-How long will Google generally take to re-index an expired domain?

2-Does it matter if Google's crawler sees your domain is in a parking page with no actual content? Will Google still reindex old domain's stuff or is it necessary to develop that doman with some content before?

3-Will Google Search Console or Webmaster tools speed up this process in a relevant way?

 

[mr-x]

Parking de-listed domains probably won't be profitable.

You can rehab a de-listed domain but it takes time. You just have to use it legitimately, find good back links, etc.

You can also setup a robots.txt to block all bots, then redirect type-in traffic to another domain with a good reputation.

 

[Lox]

Google's John Mueller explains how Google handles expired domains.

 

[mr-x]

Google's John Mueller explains how Google handles expired domains.

In this cases, I think OP is referencing domains that have been murdered using zero-click.

Also, SEO professionals don't care about the domain, they buy back-links. You can see that in the godaddy auctions, below average expired domains selling for five figures.

 

[redemo]

SEO professionals don't care about the domain

Oh dear .

 

[redemo]

SEO professionals don't care about the domain, they buy back-links

Only amateur black hats. Not professionals.

 

[mr-x]

Oh dear.

Think about it, keyword domains have been de-weighted. Obviously you want a decent name for your brand but google doesn't care if you use dashes.

 

[redemo]

google doesn't care if you use dashes

Better for brand without dashes. Better for SEO with dashes.

 

[mr-x]

Only amateur black hats. Not professionals.

I don't think people spending 19K for a two word domain with a dash are buying for a fortune 500 company.

Anyway, if they are getting paid using SEO, they are professionals.

 

[redemo]

keyword domains have been de-weighted

Please provide your source. Genuinely interested.

 

[mr-x]

Better for brand without dashes. Better for SEO with dashes.

I don't think it matters.

 

[redemo]

Oh dear. You are nice guy but this thread is too much opinion and not enough referenced fact. Ummmmm waiter!

 

[redemo]

I don't think it matters.

Dashes separate keywords which are computed using algorithm which understands dashes and recognises keywords. Yes dashes matter in the indexing process. If they didn't matter then why does the URL of this thread contain dashes? Where's that waiter?

 

[mr-x]

Please provide your source. Genuinely interested.

The EMD, or Exact Match Domain update, was a 2012 Google algorithm update that targeted exactly what it is named: exact match domain names.

Seriously, in 2005, a good domain, a few links in DMOZ was a ticket to the front page on google.

Spammy links were cool too.

 

[mr-x]

Oh dear. You are nice guy but this thread is too much opinion and not enough referenced fact. Ummmmm waiter!

Prove it. I've been optimizing websites for a few years. Where am I wrong.

 

[mr-x]

Dashes separate keywords which are computed using algorithm which understands dashes and recognises keywords. Yes dashes matter in the indexing process. If they didn't matter then why does the URL of this thread contain dashes? Where's that waiter?

Googles algorithm has gotten so good, the dashes don't matter. If they did, people would be using domains with dashes.

 

[Kasti]

Parking de-listed domains probably won't be profitable.

You can rehab a de-listed domain but it takes time. You just have to use it legitimately, find good back links, etc.

You can also setup a robots.txt to block all bots, then redirect type-in traffic to another domain with a good reputation.

I kinda think the same... if a high backlinked domain loses its most important backlinks, which got de-indexed, I guess Google won't re-index them unless that domain gets that type of content back.
But what about a good high traffic domain with not a good backlink profile? Yeah it is kinda weird, but if that domain actually had traffic besides a bad backlink profile (which I don't know how much rare it is, but it might happen...), even if most of its backlinks are down it should work on its own right? I might be too idealistic in this last case though...

Google's John Mueller explains how Google handles expired domains.

Yeah it seems that Google made it much harder on this aspect. But there is still a difference between a new regged domain and an expired one, which are the old backlinks, which are not really effective once they are de-indexed, but they might be restored if, for example, you decide to develop an expired domain with similar content to previous one.

In this cases, I think OP is referencing domains that have been murdered using zero-click.

Also, SEO professionals don't care about the domain, they buy back-links. You can see that in the godaddy auctions, below average expired domains selling for five figures.

Not sure I understood you here. You mean domains which were parked with zero-click ads? If that's the case no, I meant genuine domains which had traffic but were not renewed and, as consequence, they got simply de-indexed but not penalized.

 

[biggie]

Hi guys!

Do you think it's a good idea to list on bodis (or similar services) promising expired domains which are not indexed anymore?

I guess it all comes down to how easy it is to make it re-indexed by google. But I don't have enough experience on that so I'll ask you the following questions:

1-How long will Google generally take to re-index an expired domain?

2-Does it matter if Google's crawler sees your domain is in a parking page with no actual content? Will Google still reindex old domain's stuff or is it necessary to develop that doman with some content before?

3-Will Google Search Console or Webmaster tools speed up this process in a relevant way?

Hi

to answer the question
yes, it's best to park them on bodis/sedo, etc, at least until you execute a plan to develop them
this way you can see if any get traffic and where it's coming from.

google indexing has nothing to do with backlinks, if any the domains had any.
as that's up to the webmaster of those sites to keep or delete them.

whenever you decide to launch one as a website, then do so, just like it was any other concept and it will get indexed accordingly.

no rocket science involved.


imo....

 

[Kasti]

Hi

to answer the question
yes, it's best to park them on bodis/sedo, etc, at least until you execute a plan to develop them
this way you can see if any get traffic and where it's coming from.

google indexing has nothing to do with backlinks, if any the domains had any.
as that's up to the webmaster of those sites to keep or delete them.

whenever you decide to launch one as a website, then do so, just like it was any other concept and it will get indexed accordingly.

no rocket science involved.


imo....

Actually you are right. I got some really big confusion about it. Who cares that a backlink is not indexed if the referrent page gets a lot of traffic? My bad.
Still google indexing and backlinks have a connection, haven't they? If for example a high-organic-traffic domain gets his backlinks de-indexed I guess Google won't condider them anymore to determine its authority, which will get reduced as well as traffic, right? Otherwise it wouldn't make any sense John Muller's explanation which Lox posted above. Correct me if I am wrong

 

[redemo]

Googles algorithm has gotten so good, the dashes don't matter. If they did, people would be using domains with dashes.

Many websites still use domain names with dashes. Virtually ALL C.M.S. platforms publish post U.R.L.'s with dashes. Why? Angels.

 

[mr-x]

I kinda think the same... if a high backlinked domain loses its most important backlinks, which got de-indexed, I guess Google won't re-index them unless that domain gets that type of content back.

But what about a good high traffic domain with not a good backlink profile?

In my experience, a domain with type-in traffic developed with relevant content will receive 100x as much traffic from search.

Yeah it is kinda weird, but if that domain actually had traffic besides a bad backlink profile (which I don't know how much rare it is, but it might happen...), even if most of its backlinks are down it should work on its own right? I might be too idealistic in this last case though...

Yeah it seems that Google made it much harder on this aspect. But there is still a difference between a new regged domain and an expired one, which are the old backlinks, which are not really effective once they are de-indexed, but they might be restored if, for example, you decide to develop an expired domain with similar content to previous one.

Not sure I understood you here. You mean domains which were parked with zero-click ads? If that's the case no, I meant genuine domains which had traffic but were not renewed and, as consequence, they got simply de-indexed but not penalized.

 

[mr-x]

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[mr-x]

Many websites still use domain names with dashes. Virtually ALL C.M.S. platforms publish post U.R.L.'s with dashes. Why? Angels.

We were talking about domain names, not website paths.

 

[redemo]

We were talking about domain names, not website paths.

Correct. Search algorithms compute dashes in domain names in the same way as they do in file names. Dashes separate words in both examples, making it easier for the algorithm to 'understand' what the content is about. This is why keywords and dashes in domain names and file names are as algorithmically relevant as they were 20 years ago. Branding is another matter. Many websites still use dashes in domain name, folder name, image name and page/file name. Do you want some examples?

 

[redemo]

Parking de-listed domains probably won't be profitable.

You can rehab a de-listed domain but it takes time. You just have to use it legitimately, find good back links, etc.

You can also setup a robots.txt to block all bots, then redirect type-in traffic to another domain with a good reputation.

Check all indexed pages and re-create them straight away. Could be time consuming though you'd be able to gather traffic from much-linked pages.