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hi guys... anyone had same experience with me? why portofolio's traffic via natural search engine this week is increasing steadily. google.com/co.id , netzero, and some other little se. is this a sign that parked domains are welcome again at se's natural listing i.e google? (really hope so )
hi guys... anyone had same experience with me? why portofolio's traffic via natural search engine this week is increasing steadily. google.com/co.id , netzero, and some other little se. is this a sign that parked domains are welcome again at se's natural listing i.e google? (really hope so
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goodkarmaco said:
goodkarmaco, I don't think the Fed funded the Net buildup.
Real or perceived, the dollar had value in 2000, so dollar value was not an issue at all with the economy then. It did not play into that scenario. Also, easy Fed loan money or not, the money would have been found to start all those silly defunct companies anyhow b/c there was an absolute fever to get companies started by many, many venture capital companies. Really, most of them needed no help from the Fed securing money as they already had it. The amount of investment money here is staggering, there has never been a shortage of it. There were "angel investors" everywhere you turned ready to start almost any company with any hair-brained idea. I don't recall most of these companies securing bank loans as most were privately funded ventures.
The story I was telling you about the Net traffic is the one not reported really. None of these media outlets could get their advertising straight either - so how could they have ever reported on it if they did not even understand it themselves? Do you remember when the "banner" crashed and nobody wanted to advertise on banners anymore? That is b/c they were buying fixed impression packages (what a joke, one person could hit reload 30 times and that would be 30 impressions paid for) and getting a handful of clicks. The publisher would tell them they are "branding", but then when the advertiser ran out of cash and the branding did not kick in it became time to fire the employees and close the doors abruptly, as many did. Selling impression packages and "hit" packages that were also impressions and not uniques fooled almost all advertisers at first.
I contend that the crash of the Net in 2000 was largely unrelated to the economy and more related to what I was saying about lack of ad measurements (stats package) and lack of understanding of ad measurements, combined with many bad business plans or bad business ideas,
combined with bad timing - Year 2000 was still too early, meaning newbie surfers, folks scared to use a credit card on the Net, virtually no broadband connections, shortage of talented workers, and lack of business experience in general b/c the Net was still so new. Also, Net stocks were so highly priced that a correction was going to happen no matter what b/c earnings were not running in line with stock valuations. I know, I remember losing $40,000 in one day on America Online - it dropped from $96 a share to $65. I sold out and bought a house. My friend, who also owned America Online did not sell and his stock went down to like $8 - he had almost nothing. :hehe:
On another note, my weekend traffic seems so low these days at Parked and elsewhere. It seems traffic in general is inconsistent compared to all the previous years - it uncharacteristically jumps around . I have no idea why either.
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The dotcom bubble was also fuelled by the people with the big money who were investing in floatations being told they had to buy more shares on the day of the floatation to send the price sky high and thus cause a rush for the shares from your average joes (me)
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flood gates of money, then close those gates, crash again
Seabass, your story and your wits to survive the dot com bubble is very valualbe.
To those today who think the prosperity we have had in the housing boom is the bankers fault only will fiind this bubble was not created because of great need for new homes or that Americans had great wealth in thier equities.
The housing boom was created because the Fed made EASY money and lots of it available for the boom. What the Fed giivths he takehs away.
Investors, they never think about that.
They only think how smart they are that at the time the bubble is growing that they got in on the action.
from, http://www.stock-market-crash.net/nasdaq.htm
Around 1994, a new frontier called the internet, was first being made available to the general public. In actuality, a primitive form of the internet had been around since 1969. This early internet was called DARPANet and was created by government agencies as an efficient way to exchange scientific and military information to computers in different locations. By the 1990’s the internet had evolved as a way to communicate using email, use chat rooms and view informational websites.
Almost immediately, businesses saw the internet as a profit opportunity. America Online made the internet available for the masses. The Yahoo search engine was started in 1994 as a directory for the universe of websites. Amazon became the first online bookstore in 1994. EBay was started in 1995 as an online auction site. As the internet moved from the hobbyist domain to a commercialized marketplace, online business owners became fantastically wealthy. Many technology companies were now selling stock in IPO’s. Most initial shareholders, including employees, became millionaires overnight. Companies continued to pay their employees in stock options, which profited greatly if the stock went up even slightly. By the late 1990’s, even secretaries had option portfolios valued in the millions! Many companies had BMW sign on bonuses! This is surely an example of irrational exuberance.
Tech Stock Mania
Several economists even postulated that we were in a “New Economy”, where inflation was virtually nonexistent and the stock market crashes were obsolete! Even worse, it was said that earnings were not relevant in picking stocks either! The “Old Economy” referred to industrial stocks, such as those in the Dow Jones Average. Another buzzword was “Paradigm Shift”, which is a synonym of “New Economy”. Investors were enamored by these buzzwords, as they deceptively described something that was sleek, sexy, and exciting.
From 1996 to 2000, the Nasdaq went from 600 to 5,000! Dot-com companies run by people who were barely in their 30's, were going public and raising hundreds of millions of dollars of capital. These companies didn’t even have much of a business plan, and certainly didn’t have any earnings, either! For example, Pets.com had no earnings yet came public and raised billions of dollars. Dot-coms wasted millions of dollars per night on frivolous parties. Hard work was never part of the picture for dot-commers. There are many stories of dot-com employees walking around barefoot in the office and playing foosball all day. At one point, a new millionaire was created every 60 seconds! Many of these instant millionaires thought that they were so brilliant, that all they had to do was play to make money. Never mistake a bull market for brains.
The Bubble Pops
By early 2000, reality started to sink in. Investors soon realized that the dot-com dream was really a bubble. Within months, the Nasdaq crashed from 5,000 to 2,000. Hundreds of stocks such as Pet.com, which were each worth billions, were off the map as quickly as they appeared. Panic selling ensued as investors lost trillions of dollars. The stock market kept crashing down to 800 in 2002. One high flier, Microstrategy, slid from $3500 per share to $4! Numerous accounting scandals came to light, showing how many companies artificially inflated earnings. Shareholders were crippled. In 2001, the economy entered a recession as the Fed repeatedly cut rates, trying to stop the bleeding. Millions of workers were now jobless and had lost their life savings.
Needless to say, the New Economy was a farce, and traditional economic principles still hold. What is sadly interesting is how bubbles will continue to occur in the future. When they do occur, foolish investors will say, “This time is different!”
PBS Frontline: Dot Con
The Biggest Market Crashes in History: The Dot-Com Crash
http://www.kitco.com/ind/Schoon/jan162008.html
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0801/S00200.htm
Seabass, your story and your wits to survive the dot com bubble is very valualbe.
To those today who think the prosperity we have had in the housing boom is the bankers fault only will fiind this bubble was not created because of great need for new homes or that Americans had great wealth in thier equities.
The housing boom was created because the Fed made EASY money and lots of it available for the boom. What the Fed giivths he takehs away.
Investors, they never think about that.
They only think how smart they are that at the time the bubble is growing that they got in on the action.
from, http://www.stock-market-crash.net/nasdaq.htm
Around 1994, a new frontier called the internet, was first being made available to the general public. In actuality, a primitive form of the internet had been around since 1969. This early internet was called DARPANet and was created by government agencies as an efficient way to exchange scientific and military information to computers in different locations. By the 1990’s the internet had evolved as a way to communicate using email, use chat rooms and view informational websites.
Almost immediately, businesses saw the internet as a profit opportunity. America Online made the internet available for the masses. The Yahoo search engine was started in 1994 as a directory for the universe of websites. Amazon became the first online bookstore in 1994. EBay was started in 1995 as an online auction site. As the internet moved from the hobbyist domain to a commercialized marketplace, online business owners became fantastically wealthy. Many technology companies were now selling stock in IPO’s. Most initial shareholders, including employees, became millionaires overnight. Companies continued to pay their employees in stock options, which profited greatly if the stock went up even slightly. By the late 1990’s, even secretaries had option portfolios valued in the millions! Many companies had BMW sign on bonuses! This is surely an example of irrational exuberance.
Tech Stock Mania
Several economists even postulated that we were in a “New Economy”, where inflation was virtually nonexistent and the stock market crashes were obsolete! Even worse, it was said that earnings were not relevant in picking stocks either! The “Old Economy” referred to industrial stocks, such as those in the Dow Jones Average. Another buzzword was “Paradigm Shift”, which is a synonym of “New Economy”. Investors were enamored by these buzzwords, as they deceptively described something that was sleek, sexy, and exciting.
From 1996 to 2000, the Nasdaq went from 600 to 5,000! Dot-com companies run by people who were barely in their 30's, were going public and raising hundreds of millions of dollars of capital. These companies didn’t even have much of a business plan, and certainly didn’t have any earnings, either! For example, Pets.com had no earnings yet came public and raised billions of dollars. Dot-coms wasted millions of dollars per night on frivolous parties. Hard work was never part of the picture for dot-commers. There are many stories of dot-com employees walking around barefoot in the office and playing foosball all day. At one point, a new millionaire was created every 60 seconds! Many of these instant millionaires thought that they were so brilliant, that all they had to do was play to make money. Never mistake a bull market for brains.
The Bubble Pops
By early 2000, reality started to sink in. Investors soon realized that the dot-com dream was really a bubble. Within months, the Nasdaq crashed from 5,000 to 2,000. Hundreds of stocks such as Pet.com, which were each worth billions, were off the map as quickly as they appeared. Panic selling ensued as investors lost trillions of dollars. The stock market kept crashing down to 800 in 2002. One high flier, Microstrategy, slid from $3500 per share to $4! Numerous accounting scandals came to light, showing how many companies artificially inflated earnings. Shareholders were crippled. In 2001, the economy entered a recession as the Fed repeatedly cut rates, trying to stop the bleeding. Millions of workers were now jobless and had lost their life savings.
Needless to say, the New Economy was a farce, and traditional economic principles still hold. What is sadly interesting is how bubbles will continue to occur in the future. When they do occur, foolish investors will say, “This time is different!”
PBS Frontline: Dot Con
The Biggest Market Crashes in History: The Dot-Com Crash
http://www.kitco.com/ind/Schoon/jan162008.html
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0801/S00200.htm
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advaita said:
Those were the days... I can name a couple of names that I have direct contact with:
MetFabCity reportedly raised $35 million and blew them in two years with a unfinished web site and no customers.
MetalMaker bought brand new designer furnitures and state of the art servers and ran out of money in six month. Again, no finished website and no customers. I was able to buy their firewall software for $60 (which listed for $60,000)
MarchFirst (think later? what a strange name) When I visited, nobody was working and most of them are using the company Internet to download MP3 songs.
The company I worked for was getting several offers to "buy" the company not with cash but with start-up stocks that "valued at" $10 million.
There is just no free lunch in this world. If there is no real need in the market, the profits are just illusions or temporary. The sub-prime problems are not just caused by easy money, part of the problem are also due to over-aggressive lenders with unqualified borrowers.
There is real danger in domaining and parking space. We are all at the mercy of the registration companies and Google and Yahoo. If any of them decided to raise their prices dramatically, I see the bubble burst.
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Ouch!
Winst,
your views are welcome, this stuff is simply amazing.
Very simalar to the housing bubble, the knock downs are like dominoes plowing over everything standing, now the housing bubble burst and it is takng down the whole economy, even retailers.
In both bubbles, everyone thinks the new market is built on needs of the marketplace ( it is not) and so they "go all in". Since the bubble was formed from hot air (massive money printed to fuel the boom) it swells up big and fast.
Then the Fed turns off the money spigot and all fall into the furnace.
Winst,
your views are welcome, this stuff is simply amazing.
Very simalar to the housing bubble, the knock downs are like dominoes plowing over everything standing, now the housing bubble burst and it is takng down the whole economy, even retailers.
In both bubbles, everyone thinks the new market is built on needs of the marketplace ( it is not) and so they "go all in". Since the bubble was formed from hot air (massive money printed to fuel the boom) it swells up big and fast.
Then the Fed turns off the money spigot and all fall into the furnace.
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Ok, lets get this thread focused back on topic.
There have been some interesting posts about the doom and gloom of the future, but this is the Parked.com thread.
Cy
There have been some interesting posts about the doom and gloom of the future, but this is the Parked.com thread.
Cy
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~ Cyberian ~ said:
This is true.
You would have to be living in a swamp with no form of communication to not have heard about the housing and dollar crisis in the U.S
Honestly though, so little is happening at Parked and elsewhere it feels like things are stagnating - so not much to talk about. Even the domain bloggers are posting less and less.
The only thing I can add is that my RPC has been trending upwards at Parked to a more respectable level, but I am still way down in total earnings.
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I agree. I was enjoying those posts about the stagnating economy etc. These themes at least keep this thread alive, which as you say has become a bit stagnant. These conversations give us a better insight of the implications that an economic downturn can have on the Domaining business,Seabass said:
Better shut up now!
GIL
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This looks interesting. Once I successfully bid a few domains, I am going to park myself here!
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deep parking discusssion
True about going off in different directions.
But parking is dying, unless some big turn around comes soon. At least it is almost dead in my accounts. That is why I am talking about the economy.
So history of domains and the boom and busts I imagine are revelent to parking in general. Especially if we had any real history of the ups and downs. We don't have much, but I have learned a heck of alot more by reading the post in this thread as some members here were there during the boom and the busts.
Hmmm.. what to talk about?.
Ok here is a heavy idea, lets talk about Parked. Umm.., umm.. I am drawing a blank. Ok here goes I got something.. Parked does have a nice name.
True about going off in different directions.
But parking is dying, unless some big turn around comes soon. At least it is almost dead in my accounts. That is why I am talking about the economy.
So history of domains and the boom and busts I imagine are revelent to parking in general. Especially if we had any real history of the ups and downs. We don't have much, but I have learned a heck of alot more by reading the post in this thread as some members here were there during the boom and the busts.
Hmmm.. what to talk about?.
Ok here is a heavy idea, lets talk about Parked. Umm.., umm.. I am drawing a blank. Ok here goes I got something.. Parked does have a nice name.
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Hmm, let's see. Yes, my RPC is slowly but sure increasing. CTR is also back up but has
levelled off at about 50%.
I don't care what others may say about arbitrage, it gave advertisers good bang for their buck. With arb my average CTR was about 80% so obviously my campaign ads
attracted visitors and those visitors found what they wanted at my sites. May Yahoo
rot in M$ hell!
levelled off at about 50%.
I don't care what others may say about arbitrage, it gave advertisers good bang for their buck. With arb my average CTR was about 80% so obviously my campaign ads
attracted visitors and those visitors found what they wanted at my sites. May Yahoo
rot in M$ hell!
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Contest, grow a beard before ppc rises
Gilsan,,
you may need a shave when you wake up.
Gilsan,,
you may need a shave when you wake up.
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The excitement is seemingly gone ...
Donny used to post all the time about new features, etc ... lately it's been quiet ... too quiet.
My Parked.com earnings are meager, but I've gathering decent stats, and insight about the domains I have over the past few months, plus made some extra money. So all and all it's been worthwhile.
However, with my earnings so low, and continuing to fall (not just at Parked, but elsewhere too), in addition to the various seemingly increased legal risks of parking domains...
I'm in the process of reducing parking significantly, and instead will redirect most domains to my own domain listing website, and also will develop some.
Parking will still be around, but for the industry to remain relavent, in my view, parking companies need to change things up significantly ... as in custom content (not wikipedia mirroring, but real content) as well as more powerful tools / filters...
To do custom content right, parking companies would need to hire many reliable web designers who do decent custom content work at reasonable cost; webmasters would be charged a fee per domain and/or via revenue split to help cover the costs.
Digressing a bit, but bottom line is that in my view, custom content parking is the future ... I've yet to see any parking program that truly does it... be awesome if Parked.com did - that would be the best!
Ron
Donny used to post all the time about new features, etc ... lately it's been quiet ... too quiet.
My Parked.com earnings are meager, but I've gathering decent stats, and insight about the domains I have over the past few months, plus made some extra money. So all and all it's been worthwhile.
However, with my earnings so low, and continuing to fall (not just at Parked, but elsewhere too), in addition to the various seemingly increased legal risks of parking domains...
I'm in the process of reducing parking significantly, and instead will redirect most domains to my own domain listing website, and also will develop some.
Parking will still be around, but for the industry to remain relavent, in my view, parking companies need to change things up significantly ... as in custom content (not wikipedia mirroring, but real content) as well as more powerful tools / filters...
To do custom content right, parking companies would need to hire many reliable web designers who do decent custom content work at reasonable cost; webmasters would be charged a fee per domain and/or via revenue split to help cover the costs.
Digressing a bit, but bottom line is that in my view, custom content parking is the future ... I've yet to see any parking program that truly does it... be awesome if Parked.com did - that would be the best!
Ron
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Hey Domagon...pm sent.
Paul
Paul
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Domagon - Sometimes being quiet means we are busy working on new products or features. We are currently pre-alpha testing a new feature that will change parking as we have all known it for a long time. But now we have to get it out of pre-alpha testing.
I don't think you will ever see a successful parking company that creates custom content for it's customers, because then they will run into the same problem like WhyPark and some of the others have, as their will always be duplicate content. The only way to create real content is to do it yourself.
The domain parking business has completely changed since 1/1/2008 as have most industries. And it will continue to change as everybody adapts to the new rules and the change in the economy.
Understand that the sky isn't falling, because if it was I would be telling people to run. To me it's just time to sit back and learn from the mistakes of the past, make improves, try new things, and go from there.
If you have a portfolio of good/decent domains I think you will do just fine. Sit back, relax and enjoy the ride.
Donny
I don't think you will ever see a successful parking company that creates custom content for it's customers, because then they will run into the same problem like WhyPark and some of the others have, as their will always be duplicate content. The only way to create real content is to do it yourself.
The domain parking business has completely changed since 1/1/2008 as have most industries. And it will continue to change as everybody adapts to the new rules and the change in the economy.
Understand that the sky isn't falling, because if it was I would be telling people to run. To me it's just time to sit back and learn from the mistakes of the past, make improves, try new things, and go from there.
If you have a portfolio of good/decent domains I think you will do just fine. Sit back, relax and enjoy the ride.
Donny
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Donny said:
Thanks Donny. I have over 11,000 domains parked at parked.com and am looking forward to new ways to improve revenues!
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