question Outbound sales

[Miro Baranasic]

Hello,

Doing outbound 4 years (mostly GEO domains), and this year is twice as bad as last years, and I am doing everything similar.

How are outbound sales by you?

What do you think if it is, why has interest dropped?

Thanks for replies,

Miro

 

[jhm]

If interest is twice as bad as last year, you simply may not have stuff people want in this moment, like you had before. On the other hand, if there is plenty interest, maybe you're being too punchy on price

Every situation and every year is different. If you own a "COM" of a thriving business that they don't have, that's quite probably one of the easiest forms of outbound you can do, IMO. Not every business will care, they may be just happy with their "ORG", "NET", "IO"...but a handful will express interest, depending on price. One thing that isn't good to do (which I've done, I'll admit) is trying to sell a "NET" or an "ORG" to the owner of a "COM". Most of the time (but not always), a company will not care if they own their "COM"

 

[Miro Baranasic]

I am offering only .com domains. What are you or have using for sending emails? Do you still doing outbound? If yes, how are sales this year, the same, better, worse?

For example previous years my sales outbound ratio was around 1/8 (I have sold 1 of 8 domains). Today is 1/20 or even worse, and it doesn't pay off for me anymore.

This are GEO outbound sales mostly for around $300 (for example CaliforniaImmigrationLawyers.com)

 

[Miro Baranasic]

and I price domains the same as last year, even though I have dropped the price a little bit.

I know that here are at least 10 domainers who are doing the same thing, I hope that they will include in the thread.

 

[VadimK]

I'd say that generally outgoing is an extremely tough business. I also know there are people here who are doing it and it works for them, however I always feel that the chance to match exactly what one needs, offering it to him, is extremely low. It is exactly the case that it will mostly be working for GEO only and in the range of mid xxx. Another downside is that you have to go to already established businesses, cutting the huge chunk of people and companies that start a new business or a project.

Anyways, to the question. If quality and pricing for you are the same as in previous years, I'd probably say downfall is due to covid (or consequences related). Many businesses struggle, people cut the cost anywhere it's possible, cause no one knows what the future holds. Another domain name is currently a not a top priority for the most, probably.
Good luck, hope it will get better!

 

[NewDayBrand]

Hello,

Doing outbound 4 years (mostly GEO domains), and this year is twice as bad as last years, and I am doing everything similar.

How are outbound sales by you?

What do you think if it is, why has interest dropped?

Thanks for replies,

Miro

Hi Miro,

4 years in geo outbound, so you know the game. My honest take on the drop:

I do not think interest in domains dropped. What changed is the inbox. Cold email deliverability got brutal these last 2 years: Google and Microsoft tightened their filters hard (spam thresholds, mandatory SPF/DKIM/DMARC, engagement scoring). The same campaign that landed in inboxes in 2022 often lands in spam in 2026 without you seeing any difference on your side. So it looks like "buyers stopped replying", but for many senders the truth is "buyers stopped SEEING the emails". First thing I would audit if I were you: your open rates, your domain reputation, and whether your authentication records are all in place. Send a test to a few Gmail and Outlook accounts you own and see where it lands.

The second change: geo local businesses got hammered by the economy in a lot of markets, marketing budgets shrunk, and a domain purchase is the first "nice to have" that gets cut. Prices that closed easily in 2021 need more patience or a lower anchor now.

What has been working for me despite that: smaller and much more targeted lists instead of volume, and moving the conversation off email. WhatsApp has been my best channel for geo prospects by far, local businesses reply there within minutes when the same message dies in their inbox. I even ended up building my own tool for that workflow (DotOutbound), because finding the decision maker with a WhatsApp number changed my reply rates more than any subject line ever did. But email still works for me, but with a smaller STR.

So my answer in one line: same interest, harder inboxes, tighter budgets. Adapt the channel and the targeting, not the effort.

What do your open rates look like, and do you track opens? Worth checking once, even though tracking pixels themselves can hurt deliverability, so I would not leave them on permanently.

 

[URL Stream]

4 years in geo outbound, so you know the game.

By now it's 9 years, assuming a streak.

 

[URL Stream]

What has been working for me despite that: smaller and much more targeted lists instead of volume, and moving the conversation off email. WhatsApp has been my best channel for geo prospects by far, local businesses reply there within minutes when the same message dies in their inbox. I even ended up building my own tool for that workflow (DotOutbound), because finding the decision maker with a WhatsApp number changed my reply rates more than any subject line ever did. But email still works for me, but with a smaller STR.

Very interesting.

Can you share what percentage of your outbound sales close through email versus WhatsApp?

 

[NewDayBrand]

Very interesting.

Can you share what percentage of your outbound sales close through email versus WhatsApp?

As you see in this screenshot, on DotOutbound.com I have 2% Reply rate. 50% of it are sold until now. So I have two sales among 208 contacted.
PS: the number is less than 208 because some leads have many emails.
I also made an other sale on Whatsapp. I don't track Whatsapp on DotOutbound, it's not possible.

 

[biggie]

Hi

the question s/b if the op’s situation has changed since 2021, if there was real interest.

rather than it being a means to mention a pay to play service more than once.

just saying/

imo…

 

[NewDayBrand]

Hi

the question s/b if the op’s situation has changed since 2021, if there was real interest.

rather than it being a means to mention a pay to play service more than once.

just saying/

imo…

Hi Biggie,

I appreciate the feedback. To be clear, my intent was simply to share real, precisely calculated stats. My ultimate goal is to provide value; if I mention my tool in the process, it’s because it’s directly relevant to the workflow I’m discussing.

Regarding your point on 2021, I actually just addressed this with Miro. I believe the interest hasn't changed, but the landscape has:

Hi Miro,

4 years in geo outbound, so you know the game. My honest take on the drop:

I do not think interest in domains dropped. What changed is the inbox. Cold email deliverability got brutal these last 2 years: Google and Microsoft tightened their filters hard (spam thresholds, mandatory SPF/DKIM/DMARC, engagement scoring). The same campaign that landed in inboxes in 2022 often lands in spam in 2026 without you seeing any difference on your side. So it looks like "buyers stopped replying", but for many senders the truth is "buyers stopped SEEING the emails". First thing I would audit if I were you: your open rates, your domain reputation, and whether your authentication records are all in place. Send a test to a few Gmail and Outlook accounts you own and see where it lands.

The second change: geo local businesses got hammered by the economy in a lot of markets, marketing budgets shrunk, and a domain purchase is the first "nice to have" that gets cut. Prices that closed easily in 2021 need more patience or a lower anchor now.

What has been working for me despite that: smaller and much more targeted lists instead of volume, and moving the conversation off email. WhatsApp has been my best channel for geo prospects by far, local businesses reply there within minutes when the same message dies in their inbox. I even ended up building my own tool for that workflow (DotOutbound), because finding the decision maker with a WhatsApp number changed my reply rates more than any subject line ever did. But email still works for me, but with a smaller STR.

So my answer in one line: same interest, harder inboxes, tighter budgets. Adapt the channel and the targeting, not the effort.

What do your open rates look like, and do you track opens? Worth checking once, even though tracking pixels themselves can hurt deliverability, so I would not leave them on permanently.

Ultimately, my response to Miro reflects the reality of the current market as I see it, and why my situation involves those specific metrics. Imo, it's highly relevant to the discussion because it offers a technical explanation for the 'drop' in interest people are observing.

 

[Future Sensors]

I agree with @biggie that digging up threads with questions from many years ago just to mention the tool again feels contrived. When it happens often, it starts to look overly promotional.

 

[URL Stream]

I also made an other sale on Whatsapp. I don't track Whatsapp on DotOutbound, it's not possible.

the question s/b if the op’s situation has changed since 2021, if there was real interest.

rather than it being a means to mention a pay to play service more than once.

I appreciate the feedback. To be clear, my intent was simply to share real, precisely calculated stats. My ultimate goal is to provide value; if I mention my tool in the process, it’s because it’s directly relevant to the workflow I’m discussing.

That makes me wonder, because earlier you only shared the stats that your tool collected, and not your WhatsApp stats.

 

[NewDayBrand]

I agree with @biggie that digging up threads with questions from many years ago just to mention the tool again feels contrived. When it happens often, it starts to look overly promotional.

Dear @Future Sensors

You yourself helped me in the past and I'm still grateful for it, and I appreciate the feedback. To be transparent, I do mention my tool, but never without a core purpose. I deliberately jump into relevant discussions, even old threads, because I see that outbounders are still struggling with the same fundamental delivery issues today as they were years ago.

My philosophy as a CEO is simple: build tools that solve actual problems, not just 'fluff.' My own portfolio is already generating consistent profit using this exact workflow, which is why I built it in the first place. I only decided to monetize it because the market is large enough for everyone to succeed, and I believe in empowering others to achieve those same results. My goal is to provide real value and actionable help, not empty promotion.

Cheers

 

[URL Stream]

Dear @Future Sensors

You yourself helped me in the past and I'm still grateful for it, and I appreciate the feedback. To be transparent, I do mention my tool, but never without a core purpose. I deliberately jump into relevant discussions, even old threads, because I see that outbounders are still struggling with the same fundamental delivery issues today as they were years ago.

My philosophy as a CEO is simple: build tools that solve actual problems, not just 'fluff.' My own portfolio is already generating consistent profit using this exact workflow, which is why I built it in the first place. I only decided to monetize it because the market is large enough for everyone to succeed, and I believe in empowering others to achieve those same results. My goal is to provide real value and actionable help, not empty promotion.

Cheers

We support and appreciate all positive contributions to the domain industry.

The issue being discussed is the promotional aspect, not the quality of the tool or your posts.

 

[NewDayBrand]

That makes me wonder, because earlier you only shared the stats that your tool collected, and not your WhatsApp stats.

To share whatsapp stats automatically on the tool is not possible bro. I can’t code it.

To show you I’m not just talking theory, here is a quick look at how I personally use this workflow to move conversations from LinkedIn to WhatsApp and close deals. The tool provides emails, WhatsApp numbers, and LinkedIn profiles. I've redacted the sensitive info.

 

[NewDayBrand]

We support and appreciate all positive contributions to the domain industry.

The issue being discussed is the promotional aspect, not the quality of the tool or your posts.

I understand and appreciate the clarification. My goal remains to add value and contribute to the community's growth. I’ll keep the promotional aspect in mind and focus on sharing insights that align with your guidelines. Thank you for the feedback.

 

[biggie]

Hi Biggie,

I appreciate the feedback. To be clear, my intent was simply to share real, precisely calculated stats. My ultimate goal is to provide value; if I mention my tool in the process, it’s because it’s directly relevant to the workflow I’m discussing.

Regarding your point on 2021, I actually just addressed this with Miro. I believe the interest hasn't changed, but the landscape has:



Ultimately, my response to Miro reflects the reality of the current market as I see it, and why my situation involves those specific metrics. Imo, it's highly relevant to the discussion because it offers a technical explanation for the 'drop' in interest people are observing.

Hi

since your tool didn’t exist in 2021, then for you to bump it, is questionable in itself

when you steer the reply to how you work your flow, this is the promotional part, because the OP never asked about your methods. you volunteered it. more than once!

to me, if one promotes outside the lines, then it’s disrespectful to those who stay within them.
and if you the ceo, are being disrespectful, then how likely will those who see it as such, patronize your service.

just saying/


imo…

 

[NewDayBrand]

Hi

since your tool didn’t exist in 2021, then for you to bump it, is questionable in itself

when you steer the reply to how you work your flow, this is the promotional part, because the OP never asked about your methods. you volunteered it. more than once!

to me, if one promotes outside the lines, then it’s disrespectful to those who stay within them.
and if you the ceo, are being disrespectful, then how likely will those who see it as such, patronize your service.

just saying/


imo…

When I commented I didn't even notice the thread was from 2021. it was simply the first result that appeared when I looked to provide help on outbound. There are hundreds of people struggling and losing money trying outdated or ineffective outbound methods. My intention is to help them in the first place. As I have already clarified in my previous reply, I have taken note of the feedback regarding the promotional aspect and I have already apologized for it. My intention is strictly to contribute value to the community, not to violate its guidelines.

 

[URL Stream]

When I commented I didn't even notice the thread was from 2021. it was simply the first result that appeared when I looked to provide help on outbound.

The second change: geo local businesses got hammered by the economy in a lot of markets, marketing budgets shrunk, and a domain purchase is the first "nice to have" that gets cut. Prices that closed easily in 2021 need more patience or a lower anchor now.

(emphasis mine)