.tv Old school TV Pros - Come back and give us your views

[GoneWalkabout]

Looking through some old threads I noticed that so many of the major contributors to the .TV section from days gone by have now become watchers rather than participants.

Their experience being used to develop their own sites and businesses.

We know many of the famous names: MillersCrossing, TLDNetworks, MrRhee, RL, Antonis, SmashFactory, Hulls, Bulldog, SKG, Shocko etc. Even relative newcomers like MichaelDotcom have virtually stopped contributing.

These people have a wealth of experience that could be used to the benefit of all.

If anyone has been around for a while but hasn't contributed, could we get your view of where you think things are likely to be heading.

Without your input we are left listening only to a small group of experienced TVers, plus a lot of newbies, OR to the views of people who may not have the .TV or TV.com brands at heart.

Where's TV heading? If you've not posted for a while - Can we have your opinion.

 

[equity78]

Wow This thread has gone off a little,

Well to answer it the best way possible,

TldNetworks, Lance and I are partners he has been busy traveling for his day job, and in all honesty lost interest in the forum a year ago, telling me he could not take the trolls or the fanboi's. No offers when he placed a sales thread and was here for business not social interaction.

Bulldog has posted on the private board that he got new job and busy checks in once a week.

SmashFactory said she was leaving as she has 3 kids in school and running for Mayor of her town. She checks in once every couple weeks on here.

RL, Roy has not been on in awhile, I hope he doing ok, probably busy and .tv is not his real money maker domaining wise.

Antonis12 checked in last week and said he had been busy and would be coming back to post more when he was not as busy.

MichaelDotCOm told me that he got tired of putting effort into posts that got sidetracked by trolls and started Development.tv.

Now there are a few that are on all day which is their business, I think for the most part people are looking for action, Development is the new hot word, but plenty are not into developing but if no sales might as well say into development. Plenty just come looking for the hype, no sales on to .me or .tel or .next.

Local is right in his posts that some talked about a plan that now they are changing or there is no plan.

Domainers need action and when there no action they do not post, developers will look to discuss because they have longer term plan for their name. I have had conversations with some that were like I just want to sell my names I could careles about Tuvalu, .tv, namepros whatever I am here for the $$$. That's their right. I think the forum got very boring mid 08 and stayed that way til the sales and action in Late Jan early Feb. Here is the bottom line if there are xx,xxx .tv sales more people posting and enthused, no sales a lot less posting.

Look at a sales thread 100 posts, Local asks about Business Model 1, most just want the sizzle and the excitement.


The private board did away with invisible because if people are not going to contribute why should they lurk invisibly stating to others (OH AND BY THE WAY JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT IS SAID, GETS BACK HERE) "Oh I hate that place now it is *****," which is fine, but don't lurk invisibly claiming you are not on anymore.

The bottom line is do what you like, Ronnie is 100 % right there is plenty of pms going on I get pms from people on the extension who have not posted since 2006.

I congratulate John on the sales he has put together, I think people like DiscoverNow and Jimbo continuing to invest in the extension are a big plus, I think Qoof talking about .tv in the right circles is great, and I think Polin providing tools at Ahead.tv is great. At the end of the day its just an extension, nothing more, nothing less. Best of luck to everyone here.

 

[gr8trfoo]

i was at a club opening in leeds at the weekend and when i asked why did you not get a dot tv name for your website he said "tv thats tuvalu its sinking"

Tuvalu sinking? Naw. But GoDaddy is.

I hear that GoDaddy is about to go bankrupt- thats why they had to call off their IPO more than once in the last 2 years. Apparently they couldnt get funding even when the economy was hot. Now whats going to happen?

Maybe someone ought to start with the zone-files and make sure everyone who has a name at GD knows what could happen if GD goes under! I mean that'd be doing them a big favor wouldnt it?

 

[localexperts]

I'm sure George will back this up, maybe his words hold more power than mine).

Hey Ronnie. My words carry zero weight on this board.

 

[snoop]

even though i may not agree with you on all things, i would never email a person like that and go off. i would never imagine me emailing snoop and say things and vice versa. we have had our run inns since day one. i do all the posts here and he does.

Given that you are fairly regularly pming the mods complaining about me I find this post rather two faced.

 

[jeffoverman]

:hi: dr

friendly edit for the dr.

 

[snoop]

i dont send you private emails snoop and after reading your posts for a year and a half you continue to say the same stuff over....

you want to hear about 2 face comments-what about you sir dr. snoop.

Jeff, you do something far worse, you go off ranting to the mods behind closed doors. Your newest MO though seems to be mentioning my name in a thread, with a comment that is basically argumentitive, then you start complaining about me "ruining the thread" when I reply to you. Either you are very young or very silly, I am not sure which.

Ironic how this thread is about people who longer post much, as one of the people mentioned told me he no longer posts much because of you and one other "overly loud" person.

Here is a question from dottvnation that may sum how some think quite well,

"I have never seen a bigger bunch of whiners. Who is a bigger moron Jeff Overman or SNOOP?"

http://www.dottvnation.tv/2007/10/ask-a-question.html

Think about it for a while.

 

[jeffoverman]

edit for the dr

 

[GoneWalkabout]

Well - that really worked. Instead of bringing more people on it appears they are now leaving!

Sorry, that was not the intention at all.

On a personal level, Ronnie, I am certainly not in the market for an argument - and least of all with you - someone I hold in high esteem, who was a shining example of just why I enjoyed Namepros in the first place.

I respect your views on almost every post you have put forward. Admittedly, I do get somewhat miffed that there is a constant reference to Development.TV. (indeed, your first post on this thread makes yet another 'plug'), but that aside we tend to see eye to eye on most aspects of our industry.

However, I still stand by my words.

I really have NO time for lurkers on this forum, although I accept they are here and that will not change. If they do not want to come forward and share their counsel, that is up to them. May they rot in slitherworld or wherever it is they reside and choose to be.

As for those who have ventured away and don't feel the need to post - that is why I put this thread together in the first place - to invite them back.

Only one has returned and, with much honesty, discussed why he went away in the first place.

Others have not done so. They feel no need to share. And with the parents away the children are allowed to bicker.
Hopefully, they may change their minds and realise that the many newbies coming on to this thread are also the future of the .TV brand. If the old pros share their knowledge then ultimately they will get an even greater return later in the day.

 

[freedom30]

It seems to me that at least two reasons why some of the "old-timers" prefer to "lurk" rather than share information and experiences is two-fold.

On the one hand there are the malcontents of the extension, in the form of Snoopsey and his minions, who appear to take a somewhat sadistic pleasure in antagonising those who have high confidence in .tv.

On the other, there is jimbola and others, who seems to feed off of the malcontents verbal spewage, raising his blood pressure and ire, and actually dissing the very old-timers he wants to come back by using words like rot and slither to entice them to post(?).

If one does not want to post and would rather desire anonimity in viewing our board, great. When the time or conditions dictate, they will reappear and post, give or share their opinions and experiences and it will be in a non-pressured environment. I appreciate all they have done in encouraging me to go forward with the extension BY EXAMPLE, not words.

As for people such as Snoop, Ricky "steamboat" LaTona, and their followers, I have stated before and it bears repeating.

Absorb what they say that makes sense to you. Nobody is 100% right nor 100% wrong. What you can use, use. The rest is just cyber-garbage and should be treated as such. Nothing personal and no offense in what they post is taken by me. They can say what they want but it is the invidual that gives them credence.

My spin on it is that they are really 20th century practioners that are dwelling in the 21st century. They have to make changes and it seems that they are slow going about it.

Like Edison, they are playing a phonograph while we are carrying iPods. Anyway, take it for what it's worth.

If you can't have fun with this enterprise, you are taking, in my opinion, the wrong road to the destination and letting little thingsd(like invalid and highly opinionated negative feedback) get in the way.

In ending I want to again give my props to all the old-timers, "lurking" or not. I do miss their input, could always use their guidance and know they gave me a good start. Thanks and kudos to them, AND to all here, the next generation of "old-timers"

Have a great day.(including Snoop et al, why not?)

 

[SKG]

Where is TV heading?

Great names are dropped everyday and great names are picked up everyday so the glass of .TV investment has, imo, always at least been half full. You buy some, you sell some, you keep some, you develop some and ultimately you strive to create a recognizable brand. While this is true in any extension, what makes this scenario special to .TV is the unique opportunity to buy a domain that is both BRANDABLE and RESILIENT. The fruit of this exchange is what I would call a hailstorm causing some names to evaporate into development cycles that over time will generate a .TV rainfall because in my opinion .TV is most relevant to video and the new awakening of the internet as it relates to media.

The state of the domain economy today as seen in many extensions most noticeably in .com where those who once relied upon PPC will build or flee is the state that many of us came into this knowing all to well that PPC was not an option with .TV as a source of revenue. The carrot was and is that each and everyone one of us did/can at least find or purchase at least one great generic .TV that would have been extremely difficult for most to purchase in .com Now if you couple a solid brand with a solid model (whatever that is for you) then you have opportunity that I feel is unique to .TV as it relates to media.

For some .TV is heading straight up, for others straight down and still others sideways, so I guess at this juncture it is really depends on the individual. Ron Jackson, editor/owner of DNJournal.com, does a great job each week giving domainers and readers insight of weekly qualified sales, but we must all remember it is just an indicator and not overall volume of any specific extension. This is very relevant to where .TV is heading because I feel that many people here are judging .TV by weekly sales reports. If I were to ask what is a better indicator of the US business market, the Dow Jones or Nasdaq, I would bet that most would respond the Dow Jones but the truth is that the Nasdaq is a better indicator and still at the end of the day it is just an indicator.

So Jim, I think you asked a great question and at a very relevant time. Each person decides his or her own fate as to where .TV will head for them.

SKG

 

[localexperts]

I feel like I'm watching the US Senate debate the stimulus package.

Look, DOT TV is fine, it is this board that has issues. People need to chill.

 

[treebytheriver]

Hey there!

I am not an old school pro, but a new one that has simply been busy! I am working full time, and devoting energy to Savory, and alot of that takes me away from here. I would tell you where to find me (hint: Twitter!) but unless you enjoy listening to my food speak you would not enjoy following me!

I am forever grateful to the wonderful advice from you all, especially Jimbo, who helped me find my gem domain in the beginning! I miss it here!

I'm trying to learn filming techniques as well, and working on deals that will not be implemented for several months. I believe fully in dottv, and will hold on to several names for an extended duration.

Be happy, let's support each other!

XOXO, Heidi

 

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