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NUMB3RS: What’s the deal with 4-Digit Domains (NNNN)?

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People often ask me for my opinion on numerical domains, and in particular 4-digit dot coms (1234.com) and 4-digit dot nets (1234.net). Since number domains do not trade as frequently as letter domains, there is often uncertainty about their market value. Western webmasters/domain resellers rarely encounter websites developed on numerical domains, and question how easy such domain names are to monetize. Do these names get traffic? Can they make you money in the short term or long term or both? Here is my story, and hopefully it will answer some questions on what is happening now and where this segment of the domain market might be headed.

I have become a collector/investor of numerical domains. It started over a year ago when I noticed that a handful of 4-digit dot com domains (a.k.a NNNN.com domains) were selling for high prices in auctions for expired names. It was puzzling why some of these NNNN.com domains were available to register for the basic reg fee while others were commanding prices over $100. I asked around, but most people did not have any answers. In fact, a large majority thought these types of domains had very little value - reg fee at best. That is when I began to do my research. I began to track what prices these names were selling for in the open market, who was doing the buying, and how many NNNN.com domains remained unregistered. Based on the upward trend of such names, I concluded that it was worthwhile to register as many of these as possible for $8 and lower. It wasn’t long before all 10,000 possible NNNN.com combinations were registered. My attention then shifted to the expired name marketplace. At first it was possible to catch these names as they dropped using inexpensive services like Enom’s Club Drop. As NNNN.com domains deleted, most of them could be secured for $10 (+ registration fee). This lasted for a few weeks before the competition picked up and the names began heading to auctions. It was at this time that prices rose into the $30-$60 range, with some of them selling for over $100. A few high profile public auctions took place last year with the names going for $300+ each.

At this point I began to dig deeper into these types of names. There were many questions and very few answers. Early research showed that number combinations beginning with the numeral 0 (e.g., 0136.com, 0591.com) were the least desired, followed by numbers that contained the numeral 4. Apparently, “4" has negative meanings in various non-Western cultures. For example, in Ancient Hebrew and Chaldean philosophies, the number 4 is associated with mortality and death. Also, the Chinese people try to avoid the number 4 because it sounds the same as death in Cantonese. The numbers most in demand by domain owners were those with repeating numbers, those representing special historical dates, and those with numbers 3, 6, and 8. Again, this preference for certain numbers over others seems to be rooted in ancient numerology - where cultures believe that the universe is based on mathematical principles. As a result, numbers have great significance in people’s daily lives. In China lucky phone numbers such as 133-3333-3333 or 8888-8888 were reported as sold for more than $200,000 each. There are many other possible meanings for numbers. They represent dates, product numbers, physical addresses, phone abbreviations (think SMS) and they even substitute for words in mobile business services (see http://worddial.com).

Today, demand for NNNN.com domains is still strong. Just this morning, 8582.com sold for $180 at Enom. But what is really making the story of number domains interesting is the recent surge in interest of 4 digit dot net domains (a.k.a NNNN.net domains). Just a month or two ago, you could find many of these available to register. The demand was low and so were the prices. That has changed in a hurry. Now all NNNN.net domains are registered. As they expire, they are being caught by dropcatchers and auctioned off to the highest bidder. More auction results from today:

4623.NET $60
1383.NET $60
9915.NET $60
7818.NET $55
4080.NET $100

Yesterday I ran a check to see how many 4 digit domains were available in the .INFO and .ORG extensions. Since I knew all .COM and .NET versions were taken, I thought it might be interesting to see how popular they were in other TLDs. Here is what I found:

Number of Domains available to Register (as of 7/3/05)
Code:
	      [b].COM	.NET	.INFO	.ORG[/b]
0000 - 0999	0	0	27	538
1000 - 1999	0	0	0	0
2000 - 2999	0	0	0	0
3000 - 3999	0	0	6	2
4000 - 4999	0	0	736	0
5000 - 5999	0	0	582	2
6000 - 6999	0	0	480	0
7000 - 7999	0	0	426	565
8000 - 8999	0	0	594	821
[u]9000 - 9999	0	0	448	861[/u]
TOTALS   	0	0	3299	2789


The results seem to indicate that someone is systematically acquiring these domains, one decile at a time. Some quick scans of the whois database revealed that this might indeed be happening. Does anyone remember Duke’s article entitled The Great Three-Letter .Info/.Biz Buyout: Elequa Alters the New Extension Landscape ? History might be repeating itself. Elequa publicly discussed numerical domains earlier this year in a February 23rd interview on DomainMasters radio. In the interview, Elequa talked about many topics, but in particular he gave some unique insight into why pure number domains have significance to the Arabic speaking world. If you would like to hear that interview, you can find it archived at Monikers website: Domain Masters: Online Radio Talk Show Archives.

So here we are today. We find that NNNN.nets are picking up steam in the marketplace. We know that NNNN.coms are still hot, and some of them are hitting new highs (last week 0753.com sold for $3,433 and 0572.com sold $2,450). We see that NNNN.infos and NNNN.orgs are being slowly absorbed into strong hands. To me, there is little to indicate that the value of these domains will go anywhere but up. They are scarce - only 10,000 four-digit combinations exist per each extension. They are often preferred by cultures who do not use the Western alphabet. As an owner of 4 digit domains, I notice that some names receive very high numbers of foreign type-in traffic. Experts predict millions and millions of new internet users will emerge from non-Western areas in the next several years. The long term potential for these names looks promising, from an investment point of view. But what about the short term? If domain owners want to hold on to their digit domains, can they make money from them?

When I first started to acquire these domains, I did not believe they would be easy to monetize. I tried parking them at various places like Sedo and DomainHop. Eventually, I moved them around to other PPC programs like DomainSponsor and Fabulous. It became clear that most of these programs were not well-suited for these domains. Most of them do not pay for Asian traffic. One program even contacted me directly to know that the type of traffic I was sending through my numerical domains was not the type they were looking to send their advertisers. They asked me to remove the domains. Next, I decided to give Google Adsense a try. I developed a few nice, simple pages and displayed some ads - and sure enough I got a few clicks. But total earnings were not much more than I got through parking with PPC companies. But since I now owned hundreds and hundreds of these domains, developing & hosting & tracking pages in this manner seemed not worth my time and effort. I was about to give up until I found GoldKey. Miraculously, GoldKey offers a solution for numerical domain owners. Some of my pure number domains that made nothing at other programs, were suddenly making several dollars per day (each). For those of you that own number domains that are not making you much money, consider giving these guys a try. Goldkey has an affiliate program, so if you are interested PM me. I can show you screenshots comparing the results for the same domains at various PPC programs as well as provide you my referral code. ;)

To be honest, not all of my digit domains receive traffic and generate click revenue. The majority of them are profitable, but some of them get no visitors at all. Rarely in the domain business is anything guaranteed - and making money off these domains is no different. To summarize: 4 digit domains are being accumulated in the major TLDs. All the .COM and .NET versions have been registered and as demand continues to be stronger than the supply, these names are consistently rising in price. You can make steady income parking these domains, as you wait for the next tidal wave of internet users to come online. As mobile and internet technology advances, who knows what new applications & systems will be developed that may increase the value of these domains. If you’re looking for an investment with a nice potential return - and limited downside, you could do worse than picking up some NNNN domains. As a reseller, you can decide to trade if these if you desire, but I doubt you will be able to flip these overnight for sizable profits. IMHO, the best course of action is to acquire them and be patient, picking up income along the way. You might be able to offset registration renewals with the parking revenue you earn.

Good luck.
 
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Excellent thread, thanks for the insight. I just picked up a NNNN.org from that list you posted, I'll send on all the NP$ I have left and add to your rep!
 
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Nice, thanks for sharing pax! :)
 
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Paxton ok i signed up for at goldkey.com to try a few nnnn.com that i have

this is part of the email me they sent me

For each domain, you can click on the TEMPLATE icon to see exactly
what your site will look like when it is live. The keywords which are
displayed on the site are automatically generated from an Overture
algorithm. If for some reason, you are not satisfied with the keywords
displayed, please submit a support ticket, and we will help you
optimize keywords related to your domain. Customizing your own
Overture keywords requires us to get special permission from Overture
and may take up to a full business week.


now how did you pick keywards for your nnnn domains?? or did you let them get automatecally get generated from the overure algorithm???? any advise for chossing template for the ppc landing page???
can we see an example of one that you have parked????





Thanks Paxton for inspiring me to try ppc for my number domains..
 
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Harpo,

PM sent.

If anyone else wants to try this system, PM me and I'll show you screenshots of how well some of my number domains have done (compared to other PPC programs). Like I said, I have tested them at many places. In addition to the screenshots, I can give you some pointers on how to setup and I'll also provide you my referral code. :hehe:

Cheers.
 
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Thankyou mucho glasios thanks thanks !!!!, terrific anyways i didnt have your referral code when i signed up
but i will email them letting them know about how you sent me there and if you could get a referral to you....
Paxton i have tons of three nummer .biz .us .info i wonder if those will get traffic or if they even park these ext on there site?????

Ps::: with this new NNNN.com info the drop will start to get even more viscious
"The tigers in the wild will start to smell their pray"


 
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Keep in mind many NNNN.nets still fall all the way to manual dropcatching.
 
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damitssam said:
Keep in mind many NNNN.nets still fall all the way to manual dropcatching.
Sam, if you read the first post, you'd see that is not the case any longer.

paxton said:
...Now all NNNN.net domains are registered. As they expire, they are being caught by dropcatchers and auctioned off to the highest bidder.
We can use this thread to track NNNN sales, so everyone sees what is transpiring in the marketplace. In the last couple of weeks, all NNNN.net domains are being caught by dropcatchers. In fact, no longer are all of them going for $10 - $30 at Enom, but people are actually using Pool and Snapnames now to catch them (minimum $60 bid at each of these places). Should they fall into reverse auctions at Enom (when multiple bidders only bid $10 or $20), someone else comes along and uses the BIN option to claim the name.

Here is the recent data I have for NNNN.net domains at dropcatchers:

Code:
[b][u]Domain	        Auction Close	Dropcatcher	Closing Price[/b][/u]
5910.net	07/13/05	Club Drop	in auction
9315.net	07/13/05	Club Drop	in auction
8755.net	07/13/05	Club Drop	in auction
0277.net	07/12/05	Club Drop	in auction
9319.net	07/11/05	Club Drop	$15
1640.net	07/11/05	Pool	        in auction
3250.net	07/11/05	SnapNames	in auction
6415.net	07/10/05	Club Drop	$35
7564.net	07/10/05	Club Drop	$35
9713.net	07/10/05	Club Drop	$35
9420.net	07/10/05	Club Drop	$35
9241.net	07/10/05	Club Drop	$35
8278.net	07/09/05	Club Drop	$60
7726.net	07/09/05	Club Drop	$60
9886.net	07/08/05	Club Drop	$60
5139.net	07/08/05	Club Drop	$60
6230.net	07/08/05	Club Drop	$60
9503.net	07/08/05	Club Drop	$60
8590.net	07/08/05	Club Drop	$60
5622.net	07/07/05	Club Drop	$15
9568.net	07/07/05	Club Drop	$15
5006.net	07/07/05	Club Drop	$45
4623.net	07/06/05	Club Drop	$60
9915.net	07/06/05	Club Drop	$60
1383.net	07/06/05	Club Drop	$60
3198.net	07/05/05	Club Drop	$30
7818.net	07/05/05	Club Drop	$55
5370.net	07/04/05	Club Drop	$15
4080.net	07/04/05	Club Drop	$100
You can see from the table above that these are definitely rising in price and demand for them is strong. No NNNN.nets can be regged by hand unless someone gets very lucky at droptime.

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harpo said:
is club drop enom????
Yes, Enom's drop catching service is called Club Drop.

On another note, equity78 posted a great article in his Online Population Numbers thread. From the article he references, we can get a real good idea of just how many potential new internet users will be coming online in the not so distant future. From this report, there is another link to an article entitled Asian Internet Market to Surpass United States and this one is a real eye-opener. Very interesting stuff.

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Thanks for the sales data Pax.
 
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The results seem to indicate that someone is systematically acquiring these domains, one decile at a time. Some quick scans of the whois database revealed that this might indeed be happening.

I see a different reason low numbers are more likely taken. Here are my thoughts.

numbers from 0001 to 2005 are years that may have historical implications (birthdays, historical significance, future graduation dates, etc.) as usage for a website as well as numbers up to 2030 or so for speculation.

A potential usage for numbers is the address of a building. I know of several building know as the #### building. Even small towns would have low numbers, but only the very largest cities would have 50 or more blocks numbered consecutively that could use numbers over 5000. People naturally start numbering things in order, so anything would be less likely to use the high numbers that gets numbered.

2 and 4 are often used for "to" and "for". 6 through 9 don't have this common usage, even though 8 could be use for "ate" in a stretch.

We don't naturally use leading zeros unless we have to so, they would naturally be confusing for real use.

even though taken and some do get PPC traffic, I see little useful value in speculation in random 4 number domains. particularly non-.com ones.
 
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even though taken and some do get PPC traffic, I see little useful value in speculation in random 4 number domains. particularly non-.com ones.
The asian world would disagree with you greatly on that point.
 
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too good not to bump. IMO

Thanks Again Paxton.
 
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Awesome post paxton :) It was a great to read. Thanks for posting.

-Pratik
 
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Very weird. I hand regged a NNNN.net around 3-4 days ago -_-. (8997.net i think).

BTW how the crap is 4080 going around $100 -_-. HOORAY FOR ME :) ( i have 3090 and 3060 .net BOTH manually dropcatched :bingo: :bingo: ) D-: D-: D-:

I have around 10 NNNN that dont start with 0 so yea long term investment :tu:
 
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Numbers .com is really popular in China! Like NASDAQ listed NetEase.com(163.com)!
 
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Prosper with 8 88 888 88888


Chinese is probably one of the very few languages where several different words meaning different things can have identical pronunciation. For example "zhong" can mean "center", "royal", "end", "clock", "bell", "love", "sincerity", or "rice dumpling"; "tong" can mean "same", "copper", "child", "servant",and "barrel". A number of words also have very similar pronunciations to numbers. For example:

The number 1 (pronounced "yao") is very close to the pronunciation for the word "yao" that means "want" or "you" that means "has".
The number 4 (prounced "shi") can mean "generation", "world", "is", or "death".
The number 5 (pronounced "wu") is very close to "wo" meaning "me"
The number 6 (pronounced "liu") is close to "liu" that means "slippery". Thus "66" means slippery or "smooth running"
The number 7 (pronounced "chi") sounds like "chu" meaing "go" or "che" meaning "eat"
The number 8 (pronounced "ba") sounds close to "fa" which means "prosper"
If you have been to China, you might notice the unusual frequency of the number "8" in the telephone numbers of hotels, airlines or businesses. Most of these are supposed to carry a good omen or blessing for the "prosperity" of the enterprises.

Telecommunication companies and car registration authorities in China have unwritten rules to charge extra for each number "8" that you want on your telephone number or your car license plate. Here are some "properous" telephone numbers:

Shanghai Shi Mao Riviera Garden Estate - 6888 8888
Holiday Inn Crowne Plaza, Shanghai - 6252 8888, 6280 8888
Ocean Hotel, Shanghai - 6545 8888
Sheraton Taiping Hotel, Shanghai - 6275 8888
Rizt Carlton Portman Hotel - 6279 8888
China Travel Services, Shanghai - 6247 8888
Northwest Airlines - 6279 8088
J.C. Mandarin Hotel - 6279 1888
Galaxy Hotel - 6275 5888
Nikko Hotel - 6255 9888
Overseas Chinese Bank Corp - 6329 0888
In your travels you also have noticed that many buildings in China are sans floors 13 and 14. They lifts simply go straight from the 12th floor to 15th floor. The opened- up China seems to have adopted the western superstition relating to the number "13" as well as keeping local superstitions alive by avoiding the Foor "14" pronounced "shi-si" meaning "accidents".
Volkswagen would have to adopt a new name completely unrelated to its German name pronunciation of "da zhong" meaning "the people," due to popular perceptions of the term. The nearest Chinese word for "volkswagon" used among the Chinese in Southeast Asia is "fu shi huo gen" meaning "fortune is the root of disasters." Ford has better luck in the translation as it's translated name "fu te" means "extra fortune". AIWA also has has landed a good fortune fluke as "ai hua" - its Chinese name - means "love China". Similarly with Suntory as it's Chinese translation - "san de li" - means "benefitting three parties" (implying the people, the nation and the company).

Companies must be warned however not to get too carried away too far by naming superstitions. Beijing Da Fa Zheng Da - commonly called "beijing da fa" meaning "big fortunes in Beijing" was a joint venture between a Thai company and a Beijing state enterprise. Rather than providing "big fortunes is Beijing" it became a "pain in the back" for the C.P. Group of Thailand. For many years it ran continuous losses.

Among the Caozhou overseas Chinese in Thailand, it is customary to give a cash sum that ends with the number 4 to married couples. "44" is pronounced "shi shi" meaning "every generation or eternity." "104" therfore means "100 life times". This carries a blessing for the married couple to be in love for 100 life times or forever. Interestingly however, my friends in China were shocked to hear that I planned to use this number for a friend who was getting married. In China "shi" would be interpreted as meaning "death".

When my employer decided to close down our Shanghai representative office in 1999, it took me months to find a buyer for my Volvo. Then as the prospective buyer approached the front of my car to check the license plate number, he decided to change his mind. My car's license number ended with "84", pronounced "fa-shi", means "have accidents", he murmered while making a quick exit.

No wonder, I lost my job...


Piset Wattanavitukul
Shanghai, China

Piset Wattanavitukul is Managing Director of P. W. Consultants specializing in Investment, Management and Trade in and with China and Human Resource Development in Shanghai and Ningbo.
 
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equity78 said:
Prosper with 8 88 888 88888


Chinese is probably one of the very few languages where several different words meaning different things can have identical pronunciation. For example "zhong" can ------
Good article for western people! This will give them more understanding of China! :p
 
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Ty Worldstar thought it would help to expand on what Paxton wrote about Asia.
 
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outstanding post wow



equity78 said:
Prosper with 8 88 888 88888


Chinese is probably one of the very few languages where several different words meaning different things can have identical pronunciation. For example "zhong" can mean "center", "royal", "end", "clock", "bell", "love", "sincerity", or "rice dumpling"; "tong" can mean "same", "copper", "child", "servant",and "barrel". A number of words also have very similar pronunciations to numbers. For example:

The number 1 (pronounced "yao") is very close to the pronunciation for the word "yao" that means "want" or "you" that means "has".
The number 4 (prounced "shi") can mean "generation", "world", "is", or "death".
The number 5 (pronounced "wu") is very close to "wo" meaning "me"
The number 6 (pronounced "liu") is close to "liu" that means "slippery". Thus "66" means slippery or "smooth running"
The number 7 (pronounced "chi") sounds like "chu" meaing "go" or "che" meaning "eat"
The number 8 (pronounced "ba") sounds close to "fa" which means "prosper"
If you have been to China, you might notice the unusual frequency of the number "8" in the telephone numbers of hotels, airlines or businesses. Most of these are supposed to carry a good omen or blessing for the "prosperity" of the enterprises.

Telecommunication companies and car registration authorities in China have unwritten rules to charge extra for each number "8" that you want on your telephone number or your car license plate. Here are some "properous" telephone numbers:

Shanghai Shi Mao Riviera Garden Estate - 6888 8888
Holiday Inn Crowne Plaza, Shanghai - 6252 8888, 6280 8888
Ocean Hotel, Shanghai - 6545 8888
Sheraton Taiping Hotel, Shanghai - 6275 8888
Rizt Carlton Portman Hotel - 6279 8888
China Travel Services, Shanghai - 6247 8888
Northwest Airlines - 6279 8088
J.C. Mandarin Hotel - 6279 1888
Galaxy Hotel - 6275 5888
Nikko Hotel - 6255 9888
Overseas Chinese Bank Corp - 6329 0888
In your travels you also have noticed that many buildings in China are sans floors 13 and 14. They lifts simply go straight from the 12th floor to 15th floor. The opened- up China seems to have adopted the western superstition relating to the number "13" as well as keeping local superstitions alive by avoiding the Foor "14" pronounced "shi-si" meaning "accidents".
Volkswagen would have to adopt a new name completely unrelated to its German name pronunciation of "da zhong" meaning "the people," due to popular perceptions of the term. The nearest Chinese word for "volkswagon" used among the Chinese in Southeast Asia is "fu shi huo gen" meaning "fortune is the root of disasters." Ford has better luck in the translation as it's translated name "fu te" means "extra fortune". AIWA also has has landed a good fortune fluke as "ai hua" - its Chinese name - means "love China". Similarly with Suntory as it's Chinese translation - "san de li" - means "benefitting three parties" (implying the people, the nation and the company).

Companies must be warned however not to get too carried away too far by naming superstitions. Beijing Da Fa Zheng Da - commonly called "beijing da fa" meaning "big fortunes in Beijing" was a joint venture between a Thai company and a Beijing state enterprise. Rather than providing "big fortunes is Beijing" it became a "pain in the back" for the C.P. Group of Thailand. For many years it ran continuous losses.

Among the Caozhou overseas Chinese in Thailand, it is customary to give a cash sum that ends with the number 4 to married couples. "44" is pronounced "shi shi" meaning "every generation or eternity." "104" therfore means "100 life times". This carries a blessing for the married couple to be in love for 100 life times or forever. Interestingly however, my friends in China were shocked to hear that I planned to use this number for a friend who was getting married. In China "shi" would be interpreted as meaning "death".

When my employer decided to close down our Shanghai representative office in 1999, it took me months to find a buyer for my Volvo. Then as the prospective buyer approached the front of my car to check the license plate number, he decided to change his mind. My car's license number ended with "84", pronounced "fa-shi", means "have accidents", he murmered while making a quick exit.

No wonder, I lost my job...


Piset Wattanavitukul
Shanghai, China

Piset Wattanavitukul is Managing Director of P. W. Consultants specializing in Investment, Management and Trade in and with China and Human Resource Development in Shanghai and Ningbo.
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Feng Shui and Chinese Numerology
The Chinese have always had a deep interest in numerology. For them, numbers are not only for calculations, they have a magical quality of their own, in the sense that they can affect human life and destiny in some way. In Feng Shui, nature is also considered magical and since nature can be expressed through numbers, Feng Shui and numerology are closely related.

In Feng Shui, numbers are used to represent the five elemental forces (metal, wood, water, fire and earth) as expressed in the nine directions and the nine stars of the Luoshu diagram. Numbers are often used to predict the future (e.g. Feixing calculations), to study the auspiciousness of a given direction (e.g. Bazhai analysis), and to gauge the quality of elemental forces acting in the environment (Wuxing arrangement). The Chinese believe that if they can change their numbers or their Feng Shui, they can change their life as well. To them it is an act of empowerment and is not to be trivialised as superstitious.

Like everything else in nature, numbers have yin and yang qualities. Odd numbers (1,3,5,7,9) are considered yang while even numbers (2,4,6,8) are considered yin. Since yang quality is associated with growth and prosperity, the yang numbers are generally more desirable than the yin numbers. However, there are many exceptions to the rule.

Eight is considered an auspicious number not only because it sounds the same as “prosperous” or “fa” in Cantonese, but also because it is the yinnest of the yin numbers from 1-9. The Chinese believe that if you are at the bottom, the only way for you to go is up. So 8 stands for potential and for growth: a change from bad luck to good luck. Eight also stands for the 8 trigrams (bagua) – an auspicious symbol of transformation.

Often, numbers are assessed not only in terms of their yin and yang quality or their symbolic meanings, but also on homonymy, or their sound.

In business, where the aim is to grow and make a profit, the three digit numbers like 328 and 888 are very popular with the Chinese because they sound the same as “business will easily prosper” and “thrice prosperous”. Generally three digit numbers are preferred over two or four digits because 3 is a yang number and it stands for “liveliness” or “san” in Cantonese.

Six is also very auspicious, not only because it has the same sound as “profitable” or “luk” in Cantonese but also because 6 is twice 3 and 3 is a lucky primary number since it takes a minimum of 3 points to create a geometrical shape. Three is the beginning of all things and twice 3, that is 6, means progress and doubling of everything that you started with. For the same reason the three digit numbers 326 and 666 are also popular with the Chinese.


'The three teachings are one.'



Two is not too bad either, even though it is the first of the yin numbers. Two represents the complementary forces of yin and yang. It has a bilateral symmetry and has the same sound as easy or “yi” in Cantonese, so it is a sought after number as well. Often, 2 is put in front of the other lucky numbers to make it seem easily achievable. For example the numbers 23, 26, 28 and 29 are desirable because they have the same sound as “easily growing”, “easily profitable”, “easily prosperous” and “easily enough” in Cantonese respectively. For the same reason, try to avoid putting a 2 in front of other unlucky sounding numbers like 4 (death or dying). The number 24 is considered unlucky homonymy wise, because it sounds the same as “easily dying” and 2424 is a very unlucky number indeed.

Five sounds the same as nothing or no (ng). So it is best to accompany this with the unlucky 4 and not the lucky 8. Fifty-four sounds like “not dying” and 58 sounds like “not prosperous” in Cantonese.


5 men with 5 lucky symbols



Seven has the same sound as “certainty” or “for sure” (chut) so it goes well with 2 and 8, 72 and 78 sound the same as “certainly easy” and “prosperous for sure” respectively in Cantonese. Again, try to avoid putting a 7 next to unlucky numbers like 4, 74 sounds the same as “dead for sure” and is considered unlucky.

Both 1 and 9 are good numbers to have. One stands for “unity” while 9 stands for “longevity” or “enough”, so they combine well with other lucky numbers. However since 9 is the yangest of the yang numbers it implies the onset of decline, therefore combination numbers like 39, 69 and 89, while they sound good, imply over development.

For the same reason 999 is not a desirable number because it is too yang and the only way for it to go is down, in the sense that the follow up number is 1000 and the beginning of a new cycle – starting all over again. In the past, Nine is reserved for the Emperor and ordinary people are not allowed to use the number. The doors to the imperial palace are all decorated with (9x9) 81 brass knobs to signify the majesty of the Emperor. We know from history what happened to all Emperors, they get overthrown in the end. So unless you have a good ego and a strong desire for constant renewal, do not choose 9, 99 or 999.

Any numbers that start with 1,2,3,6 and 8 or a combination thereof will always sound lucky. To achieve a feeling of health and prosperity you can choose numbers from these combinations and you cannot go wrong, especially well if you can balance the yin and yang numbers in their combinations. For example 3388 or 1618 and 1328 are all very auspicious, because they have a combination of two yin numbers and two yang numbers, so they are considered balanced and ritually correct, in harmony with each other.

Most Chinese try to avoid the number 4, because 4 sounds the same as “death” (sie) in Cantonese. Character wise, 4 is written as though the sun is being obscured by a cloud, so pictorially, it stands for a cloudy day and bad luck. The Chinese do not like to have a house or a car with the number 4 or a combination like 14 “must die”, 24 “easily dying”, 44 “dying and dead” and 74 “surely dead”. The only time 4 is considered auspicious is when it is used with a 5 or an 8, for example 54 sounds the same as “shall live forever and will not die”. Forty-eight sounds the same as “sure to prosper” and 84 sounds the same as “forever prosperous” and hence they are acceptable to the Chinese.


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If you have a number you do not feel positive about, do not worry. I have a solution for you. My Feng Shui teacher, Master Ren Zhi-Lian, has given me a cure to overcome the inauspiciousness. It involves a simple ritual of painting two red dots to either side of the unlucky numbers on display. For example if you have a 4 or a 14 as your house number, paint it like ·4· or ·14· with numbers in black and the dots in vermilion red. A dot or a zero symbolises nothingness; a pair of them in red will nullify any inauspiciousness associated with the number. This cure only works if the numbers are written down. For mobile or telephone numbers, you need to actually change the numbers to change your luck.

Do not be afraid of numbers. Numerology is there to serve us, like Feng Shui, not the other way round. Choose a house, a unit and a car that you really like first, then worry about the numbers. If you are destined to have them then the luck of the numbers can be changed by mandate of heaven, expressed through your will. Numbers by themselves do not have any power. The effectiveness of numerology comes from your perception of what these numbers can do. They can give you a numerical hint (or an intuition) of how you are feeling about a situation or a place. Likewise, the act of changing or re-ordering a number empowers you to change the situation psychologically. Physical changes for the better often follow a change of mind set. Remember the wisdom of the following Chinese saying on Qi energetics:

“Where the Mind goes, Qi will follow and Action will take place”
 
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equity78 said:
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The ------goes, Qi will follow and Action will take place”
Hi equity, I think you are a fengshui expert! :hi:
 
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Excellent post paxton :) *ThreeD bows* thanks for sharing the info..
 
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Paxton thanks for the info it took 11 days for yahoo to list the nnnn.com domains on on yahoo using the dns of goldkey.com
i have been getting alot of views and this is only from nnnn.com that i regged a while back for regg fee.... by the way i saw a few listed on todays pool.com front page of deleted domains thats strange for nnnn.com domains
To the member .edu thanks for the post 16 months ago listing the final 50 nnnn.com domains left that was yummy
 
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