No intention of developing

[tony84]

I was just thinking of an idea i had (im obviously not the first person to do so). But when i typed in a domain that i thought would be perfect it had gone, thats ok and fair enough i cant complain at that, but when i seen that it was just a page saying this is for sale or even 1 of them pages where you display links and get paid for the clickthroughs etc its really annoying.

The internet is about being able to share information and be a place to work/have fun etc etc. I know im really saying this on the wrong forum as a lot of people on here make money this way, but ive been thinking and domains should be taken off people who buy domains purely to just sell on and have no intention what so ever in developing them.

rant over, and im prepared for a lot of backlash but i think i have a valid point.

 

[tony84]

no it didnt equity, atleast try to read what i posted.
As ive said before and will say again its not the fact the name was taken, it was the fact the name was taken and being wasted, i think the origianl domain i went for just said for sale the rest i tried had link pages.
I wasnt telling anyone to do anything with a domain did you actually read any of what i said?, i stated my opinion in which i said i think its waste of a perfectly good domain.

 

[equity78]

Well Tony you did not tell us the name its taken so no one can go reg it out from under you. If the person is making money it is not a waste it is a frustration for you. I check names all the time for ideas as I am sure most do and they are taken. Frustrating but I did not get there first. Post the idea maybe everyone here can come up with suggestions to help you, or maybe has a name close.

I was just thinking of an idea i had (im obviously not the first person to do so). But when i typed in a domain that i thought would be perfect it had gone, thats ok and fair enough i cant complain at that, but when i seen that it was just a page saying this is for sale or even 1 of them pages where you display links and get paid for the clickthroughs etc its really annoying.

The internet is about being able to share information and be a place to work/have fun etc etc. I know im really saying this on the wrong forum as a lot of people on here make money this way, but ive been thinking and domains should be taken off people who buy domains purely to just sell on and have no intention what so ever in developing them.rant over, and im prepared for a lot of backlash but i think i have a valid point.

ANd for the record you stated your opinion about what the Internet is about as a fact, and called for the seizure of property that rightfully belonged to the owner.

 

[Acroplex]

For those that complain that they can't get a domain they like, pop out your scientific calculators.

For .com, .net and .org there is a limit of 63 characters (a-z, 0-9, dash) max per name.

That amounts to:

63^37 combinations - minus the combinations where the dash is the first character.

 

[PE-Steve]

Some people buy the domains and not develop them so they can get money. If it is a hot domain, people will pay hundreds for it

 

[harkster]

But none of this has anything to do with WE, the people. It is Google's and other Search engines respopnsibility to filter out these parked pages and doorway pages. It is only in their best interest to provide good search results. If they don't they will go the way of Excite.com. You can only run on hype for so long. After that, reality starts to set in and reality will tell you in due time whether you got it or you don't. Google, IMHO, don't. Just all hype.

Not so much filter out the parked pages but I wish to hell they would clean the 'dead' links and all those outdated ebay pages.

 

[RogueWriter]

Hey, if the domain you want is for sale then buy it. You know, I think I'll go buy a courtside seat to the Pacers game. Hey, wait, that's not fair: no courtside seats are left. But this scalper I know ALWAYS has a couple good tickets I can get for a reasonable price: Guess I better call him, or buy some binoculars.

 

[mole]

I agree with Tony. There are a lot of lazy greedy .COM basterds who hog names in hope of huge future profit but meantime park at PPCs or redirect to porn. They have been around since the start of the WWW, and are pretty much the fabric of the domain biosphere as we know it.

There is a plus point to this actually, it makes the .COM namespace less desirable since these lazy basterds price out resale interest in their domains with insane prices, so that .BIZ and .INFO stand a much better chance of flourishing.

When shit hits the ground, the dung beetles have a field time.

 

[dnpimping.com]

Ok sounds good. NEXT!

 

[mole]

Ok sounds good. NEXT!

Well, if you insist. Because of the massive hoarding and ridiculous pricing by even the pantry lady of .COM names, let alone Microsoft, it creates a place where the sun don't shine. So the ticks and crabs flourish instead.

What you get is a namespace itch that is very embarrassing to gratify.

 

[ObscuredVision]

It is quite annoying, i thought of the perfect name for my new template site so i rushed home and typed in the naem at godaddy.com just to find out its taken, so i decided, oh well someone else must have a site already like what i wanted to start, so i went to the site and there is nothing there, not even an email i can contact to find out if they are willing to sell to me.


So instead of actually taking away the domain, i think it would be wise if more people put a means of contact on the page to let the people know that it is available , even if it would cost more then a normal registration.

 

[mole]

so i went to the site and there is nothing there, not even an email i can contact to find out if they are willing to sell to me.

PM me the name, obscured, and I'll try snoop out the owner for you in 1 min

 

[ObscuredVision]

PM me the name, obscured, and I'll try snoop out the owner for you in 1 min

i could look up the whois myself

 

[mole]

i could look up the whois myself

well, you might find a tick or crab I was hoping you would say there was no valid email, then bang, you do the registrar-ICANN complaint :evil:

 

[trishan]

Good thread, how do i stand? I think it is OK for people to have domains just for using selling them...

 

[superprogrammer]

Yes, some people really make good $$ just by buying and selling names

 

[ObscuredVision]

I'm renting not buying a domain - if I do not continue to pay every year to maintain the registration, it gets dumped back into market. So, I have a right to put whatever I want there. If I'm smart, I try to develop it, eventually, but until then perhaps the site can pay for itself through ads.

You could say the same thing about scalpers, but at the same time, those people can provide better seating than you would normally be able to buy on your own for certain venues. It's a service, you are paying for good seating. If that domain had not been scooped up by a reseller, it almost certainly would have been purchased by one of your competitors before now.

The scalpers I feel sorry for are those trying to sell Indiana University football tickets. :lol:

Well if you look at it like your renting, is really right to resell them? After all, your not allowed to sell a car that your renting , or a house that your renting, so why should a domain name be any different?

only brought this up because people where comparing domains as being real estate.

 

[harkster]

well, you might find a tick or crab I was hoping you would say there was no valid email, then bang, you do the registrar-ICANN complaint :evil:

Is there a way to do something about bad whois info. There is a domain I have been watching for 3 years. The whois info is no good, the domain is not being actively maintained - looks like an abandoned project. Gets renewed on the last day every year. I have spent many, many hours trying to contact the owners. The emails don't bounce but not responded to either. The company listed as registrant appears to be defunct. I have been uunable to locate the listed contact. Many calls where people wonder what the hey is going on etc. etc.

Frustrated!

BTW this name gets 500 OVT with extension. I could never afford to try to buy at auction but would make me feel good if the jerk that owns it (and not using it to its potential) would loose it.

 

[RHOL55]

I agree about the comparison to physical real estate. One glaring difference of domain names is that there is virtually unlimited supply. Want to start a flower shop, but flowers.com is taken? Just add a word - hotflowers, flowerpower, flowerpuff, FlorasFlowers, etc - and reg it as a dotcom, or check out the several dozen other viable extensions like .us .net .org .nu .cc ad infinitum.

If anything, there is more more reason to be miffed at speculators in physical real estate, since supply is truly finite, and everything even remotely useful has an owner by now.

I agree. 20 years ago would you have guessed that Ebay.com would be an auction site? It's not everything to do with location as much as what you do with the location.

 

[Gregoire]

Is there a way to do something about bad whois info. There is a domain I have been watching for 3 years. The whois info is no good, the domain is not being actively maintained - looks like an abandoned project. Gets renewed on the last day every year. I have spent many, many hours trying to contact the owners. The emails don't bounce but not responded to either. The company listed as registrant appears to be defunct. I have been uunable to locate the listed contact. Many calls where people wonder what the hey is going on etc. etc.

Frustrated!

BTW this name gets 500 OVT with extension. I could never afford to try to buy at auction but would make me feel good if the jerk that owns it (and not using it to its potential) would loose it.

Does anyone know ?? I'd like too know too !! Thx for posting this question Hark

Grégoire

 

[Acroplex]

Is there a way to do something about bad whois info. There is a domain I have been watching for 3 years. The whois info is no good, the domain is not being actively maintained - looks like an abandoned project. Gets renewed on the last day every year. I have spent many, many hours trying to contact the owners. The emails don't bounce but not responded to either. The company listed as registrant appears to be defunct. I have been uunable to locate the listed contact. Many calls where people wonder what the hey is going on etc. etc.

Frustrated!

BTW this name gets 500 OVT with extension. I could never afford to try to buy at auction but would make me feel good if the jerk that owns it (and not using it to its potential) would loose it.

Consider this analogy. Someone bought a nice house in a nice area. The house slowly becomes delapitated, the weeds grow and still, someone lives in it. Would you bang on the door every year trying to buy the house, hoping that the owner passed away?