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I was just thinking of an idea i had (im obviously not the first person to do so). But when i typed in a domain that i thought would be perfect it had gone, thats ok and fair enough i cant complain at that, but when i seen that it was just a page saying this is for sale or even 1 of them pages where you display links and get paid for the clickthroughs etc its really annoying.

The internet is about being able to share information and be a place to work/have fun etc etc. I know im really saying this on the wrong forum as a lot of people on here make money this way, but ive been thinking and domains should be taken off people who buy domains purely to just sell on and have no intention what so ever in developing them.

rant over, and im prepared for a lot of backlash but i think i have a valid point.
 
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great thread

this is a great thread ...

a canucks perspective, yes capitalism rules like it or not ... but we should all pause abit and remember the glory days...

when there was hope of a new medium to take us beyond the empowerment of everyman becoming a publisher of the printed word to everybody lucky enough to have a computer and know how to use it being able to put out whatever they want to the world ...

in reality we see that the human race, or at least those on computers are a diverse mass of people ... from the altruistic publishers of focused and useful information to the greedyporndomainpimps.com of this world

the games not over yet, buck up and grab whatever domains you can that are potentially useful and dance with the human race for better or worse

peace
 
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right same name because If you want to pulsih do what most did for the last two hundred years use your name. Dell Computer,Hewlett Packard,JP Morgan. USe your name SMith Digital whatever your name is and your industry In a lot of cases that won't be taken. IF its a generic word well No offense but everybody wants to dance with the Prom Queen got to get there first.
 
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But what if your name is Abucamdid Barfalontiniolios? Some of us are not blessed with corporate friendly names.

Besides, this forum is more for the domain seller and speculator than it is for webmasters or other website owners. I assume mane people here have no intention of building a site or a brand when they buy domains. That is to say, at least it is not the primary goal when most of their domains are purchased.
 
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yeah most common words are gone but as they go more common words come.
So really you have to buy into what you think is going to be good in the future.
I agree that its a waste of a name when they dont use it but hey they do it with property and no one cares.
 
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Well names are no different than anything else so I guess if someone owns it they can do whatever within the law they want. Why just pick domains? A waste of a name? if someone is making $300 a month off that name not a waste. If you can't come up with a name, that there was only one name that would make it a success then that's just uncreative. THis just sounds like jealousy I was not there in the early 90's some names I would like to develop that are PPC but I don't think My right to complain. Speaks Of Jealousy. Go tell Spielberg his house is too big you would like to live in Beverly Hills too and his place is just too big more development could be done on that land.
 
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Good thread, tony84.

Take domains from owners who don't develop them? But why stop there, how about petitioning to have domains stripped from owners who develop ugly websites and granted to professional web developers. (I got dibs on sex.com!)

Kidding aside... I understand the frustration that sparked the initial post. I've often found that "perfect name" unobtainable for my projects. But where do you draw the line? Only permit domains to be registered if they are to be developed within 30 days? In whose best interest is it for any particular domain to be developed? I mean, how does it benefit the greater good if 'pizza.com' helps Dominos make a profit, as opposed to being listed for sale?

I don't see domain investing/speculation as a sin. Not to be confused with cybersquatting (violating trademarks), domain speculation and reselling often results in the domain being developed by the best possible end user.
 
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jealousy?
haha if you actually read what i said you would realise im not jealous of anyone or anything. I have no problem with people developing sites etc it just seems a total waste to put links on them when it could be used to share something much more informative, it also seems a lazy way to make money which is fine i have no problem sitting on my ass making money by doing nothing,
all i can say is some people can see my point whether they agree or not thats ok, its your choice but there are some people that will never understand my point as they only look after number 1.
 
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Well I get your point Tony and, seeing as this is a place for venting ones opinion, I would have to say that 'your point' no matter how well thought out, has no basis or foundation of relevance.

Because, despite you feeling aggrieved about your proposed site being taken by someone else, whos to say that whatever you put on your site wouldn't upset and aggrieve somebody else. So, you see, your point only creates a circular reference and a multitude of every action meaning theres always an equal and opposite re-action.

The internet may not be perfect but its failings are both its detriment and its beauty. Freedom of speech to the ....th degree. And so if someone wants to display their internet presence in the form of a parking site or links, well then thats up to them, them only, and long may it continue......
 
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Great posts, everyone! Truly an incredible exchange of information...
 
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I think that all people that I deem as "ugly" and/or useless should be executed.

I believe that all houses that I deem to be an eyesore be torn down and the property rights taken away from the current owner. The property should then be given to the state to own.

In fact, I think all property should be owned by the state. In fact, I think the state should tell us and you how to live our lives. This includes cyber-property. I am so sick of every website looking different. I want all the websites to look the same and I trust the state to pick out that one layout that is best for all websites.

By the way, my name is Adolf Hitler. I and my sidekick Joseph Stalin plan on fixing this problem you call freedom and individuality once and for all.

:hi:
 
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Collieri and Zquest great posts, again Tony who are you to tel someone how they should earn a legitimate income. I sacting reading someone elses words taking someone elses direction an acceptable way to earn a living? I think wea re all actors but not at Brad Pitt's salary. SHould you make millions to play a kids game? Collieri is right whois to say your site would not enrage others you did not state this was a non profit to help those less fortunate I personally would never take a name that would help acause or medical term and park it and would not want to profit form it that's just me a whole Karma thing but you were not even talking about that you said an idea for you about you so who is looking after number 1 your point is not hard for anyone to understand. JUst has no basis IMO. And who named you iNternet Czar to state what the Internetwas for its whatever law abiding citizens of the world want to make of it that's its beauty whatever anyone wants you are just one of 6.5 billion.
 
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While I so agree with the original point of this thread (free web cluttered with greed), i can't help but to notice the irony of you being a member here.. a place designed for greed in domain names. lol

I "try" to create at least a page for all my sites of relevance to what a visitor may stumble upon. Not only does this help me and buyers.. but it also helps feed what your looking/asking for... "free" information.

but, that said.. you will be hard pressed to type a term/word into google and not get an answer from a second source.
 
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the hitler comment all i can say is wow you really need to get out more,
as for the kid comment all i can say is i may well be younger than you, but im also legal to drink drive smoke anything that your legal to do. So dont try to talk down to me because it really doesnt work.

Im a member here for other things, i have bought domains off here, ive also bought and sold other services off this site, its a great site for help on designing/building/developing sites graphics scripts etc, and i did actually say i know not many people on here would agree with me infact to be honest im surprised so many people have actually seen my point i was expecting to get hammered by everyone.

and as for equity78 im glad you read all my posts which is why you would notice that i did infact say how people could and couldnt earn money (sarcasm ;))

I really am surprised 1 or 2 people are comparing what i said to dictatorship but i guess you do get people that go to extremes and can only see things their own way.

Just incase anyone is thinking otherwise, im not arguing with anyone and i hope everyone knows that its just a discussion.
 
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tony84 said:
the hitler comment all i can say is wow you really need to get out more

tony84 said:
Just incase anyone is thinking otherwise, im not arguing with anyone and i hope everyone knows that its just a discussion.

"hey man, i may have just shot you, but just in case youre upset, you have to understand................. "

Cool it Tony bro....

You wont make any friends getting irate.

Your thread has created a good deal of discussion, positive discussion, so dont go ruining it by throwing cheapo's... you know it...

Great thread btw....
 
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im not getting irate i just think the hitler comment was a little uncalled for.

And i stand by it being a discussion its defiately got everyone talking :D
 
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It's true, there is a whole lotta garbage on the web but I don't think a site filled with links or affiliates qualifies. A perfect example is www.creditcards.com which is 99% affiliate links but if a credit card is what the browser's after then the site's perfect!

Just as an aside... I just read an article that the site sold for 2.7 million dollars.
 
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well id have to agree that is a good site (if your looking for credit cards) which i suppose if you typed that in then you would be but, that site has been developed in a way
 
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Great topic, Tony84.
I view domain name marketing as microcosm of the net. (Extending this, the net, itself, can be considered to be a microcosm or reflection of the world community). Due to the diversity of interests, experiences, backgrounds, needs, desires, and so on, people come to the internet bringing along with them a wide range of perspectives and agendas. Within our little domain name community, people register names for a variety of reasons:
Development
- to promote an existing business or start-up a new business or enterprise, online.
- to build a site for resale
Domain Name Investment and Reselling
- speculative and quick turn-around sales for profit
- long term, ( Dictionary, 3LL and emerging/future tech names are good examples)
PPC and Ad Revenue Income
- registering and optimizing domain names for the express purpose of monetization.

These distinctions usually overlap, because most dn marketers, (although typically focusing on one area), are, in practice, operating on multiple levels and wearing many hats. I'll use myself as an example.

I take a "shotgun" approach and have names in several categories that are working in each of the levels mentioned above. One name is the masthead for a site that promotes an existing, (non-internet), business and has 20-30 keyword search term names that were registered for the purpose of redirecting/pointing traffic to this site. Another group of domains were registered based upon subject matter that is of personal interest to me, and over time, I will create sites using these names. In the interim, I have parked the names on servers that provide a small amt of income for their upkeep.

My primary focus in domain name marketing, however, is in resale for profit, and these names are all parked at a site, primarily, for the buyer traffic and, secondarily, for PPC monetization. I have also registered a handful of names strictly based upon their keyword, (for ppc), value, and a couple of typos, but in my case, these regs are more of an experiment or curiosity, rather than a serious endeavor.

The physical real estate analogy is a good one for domain name sales. Additionally, domain name purchasing for resale has a direct parallel to the commodity and stock markets. Domain names are the commodity of intellectual property, but more importantly, (from a commerce standpoint), domain names are the commodity of internet traffic. Traffic=Money. Marketers, (and Marketing Depts), can do demographic studies to analyze a site's traffic and than project income and future marketing strategies based upon these analysis. The domain's internet history, the quality of name's search terms and the extention will all have a bearing on the traffic, and, therefore, can be assigned a tangible value based upon present information, or projected potential.

To wrap up my novella, I would like to leave one parting thought. The internet, as society and the world as a whole, can be characterised by, if nothing else, it's variety and diversity. Although we can never fully escape our own subjectivity and system of values, we do have the freedom to research and to make an attempt at understanding other, differing perspectives, and in the process, gain an increased level of acceptence for other POV's, even if we continue to disagree. Happy New Year, everyone. :tu: :D
 
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One thing about a parked domain versus an Under Construction page is that the end user does usually find what they want via the links that are presented to them or at least something of interest. I try to at least park most of the domains I have. I've been lazy about the info ones...
 
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See I take this froma differnet aspect and no offense to all though I think some have written some great stuff especially your Novella Grilla. It is not a great thread or First post WHoare you to tell anyone what they should do with a name Let me say I don't care that you think that's wrong I don't It was bought before you came up with it, so therefore your no first mover, no genius, you did not state it was a project to help the world or a non profit. You came out with an agenda that said the iNternet should be about the free dissemination Of information. That is one of many facets just like you are one of 6.5billion come up with another name. IF you are about developing then you don''t need a great .com Develop,SEO, ADvertise show the world you got this great idea.


And this thread did not start out "This is what I think the Internet should be about what do you guys think?" THis threadstarted I have an idea and SOmeone else has a name I want and that makes me mad. A lot of me me me You fostered no great discusiion here LEeand Collieri and RJ and Grilla did.
 
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