No intention of developing

[tony84]

I was just thinking of an idea i had (im obviously not the first person to do so). But when i typed in a domain that i thought would be perfect it had gone, thats ok and fair enough i cant complain at that, but when i seen that it was just a page saying this is for sale or even 1 of them pages where you display links and get paid for the clickthroughs etc its really annoying.

The internet is about being able to share information and be a place to work/have fun etc etc. I know im really saying this on the wrong forum as a lot of people on here make money this way, but ive been thinking and domains should be taken off people who buy domains purely to just sell on and have no intention what so ever in developing them.

rant over, and im prepared for a lot of backlash but i think i have a valid point.

 

[pimpdaddy]

Sure you do have a point but there is still a lot of room for new domains that can be developed with content, the domain squatters are not injuring the information exchange, it's just another medium for profit for webmasters.

I'm sure you can find another domain that you can use for your idea.

 

[Werpon]

There is no obligation to develop a domain when you buy it, but I agree with the fact that thousands of domains full of affiliate links are not providing any content and "eroding" the original spirit of Internet (free, easyly accessable info). I don't like them, but what we probably don't realize is that if people are clicking on them is perhaps because that's what they were searching for.

 

[tony84]

i could probably find a lot of good names probably with different extensions but its not quite as good and the main 1 i wanted says for sale i can guess its going to be a 3 figure sum which i couldnt pay (student)

 

[TLDnetworks]

I does seem that the search engines are being taken over by the PPC parked pages though and it's harder to get through to true content.

 

[RogueWriter]

I'm renting not buying a domain - if I do not continue to pay every year to maintain the registration, it gets dumped back into market. So, I have a right to put whatever I want there. If I'm smart, I try to develop it, eventually, but until then perhaps the site can pay for itself through ads.

You could say the same thing about scalpers, but at the same time, those people can provide better seating than you would normally be able to buy on your own for certain venues. It's a service, you are paying for good seating. If that domain had not been scooped up by a reseller, it almost certainly would have been purchased by one of your competitors before now.

The scalpers I feel sorry for are those trying to sell Indiana University football tickets. :lol:

 

[tony84]

ok you rent the domain no need to get all techy about it you know what i meant as did everyone else who replied.
But i have no problem with 1 of my competitors (except its not really a competitor as im in it on the basis to improve my skills and make a site that im intrested in with a good domain) BUT i have no problem with someone who buys the domain with every intention to develope it.

But seen as you really want to compare it to something totally different how about, being a child you have a toy you dont really want it but someone else does, so you hide it so he/she cant have it??
(i wouldnt really compare it to that but i wouldnt compare it to your scenario either however it does seem slightly selfish)

 

[semohi]

But seen as you really want to compare it to something totally different how about, being a child you have a toy you dont really want it but someone else does, so you hide it so he/she cant have it??
(i wouldnt really compare it to that but i wouldnt compare it to your scenario either however it does seem slightly selfish)

That's when you're a kid. Now we're older and this is business. You pay for the toys and hope someone else might buy them off you. There's also a risk that your toys might not sell. What if you use to have a developed site and is no longer developing it? You sell the domain. If it's a good one, people will bid for it. Supply and demand.

It's a business that does not put emotions first just like most other businesses. Annoying? Yeah, if you see a domain you want that's taken. Just like if you thought you had a great invention, but you found out it was patented. So you think of another idea and life goes on.

If you saw business.com available, would you grab it?

 

[tony84]

to be totally honest no i wouldnt. I make sites on things that interest me.
I wouldnt have a clue what to put on business.com im sure given time i could get content together but it would bore me and i dont see the point in doing something that will bore you. And i also dont see the point in buyig a domain and shoving some links on it to earn a little bit of money when someonebody else could make much better use of it - after all the internet is about being free and to share information etc

I just think its a waste of a perfectly good domain name in my opinion.

 

[pimpdaddy]

to be totally honest no i wouldnt. I make sites on things that interest me.
I wouldnt have a clue what to put on business.com im sure given time i could get content together but it would bore me and i dont see the point in doing something that will bore you. And i also dont see the point in buyig a domain and shoving some links on it to earn a little bit of money when someonebody else could make much better use of it - after all the internet is about being free and to share information etc

I just think its a waste of a perfectly good domain name in my opinion.

the thing is, if you have business.com, you wont be making little money and if someone really wants it that bad, they can buy it, most of the time its probably a big company so they can afford it..

 

[Badger]

could always become a buddhist john...

 

[sunken]

Domain names are the real estate of cyberspace. I'm sure people would rather see a park than a parking lot, but it's the owner's decision what to do with that property. Same thing here. Domains are bought and sold each day and some people will want to build on it, but there are others that will want to hold it for a better deal. The original spirit of the internet really has come and gone. It is what it is. You wouldn't expect a guy to give a $30,000 piece of land to someone because they want it when he could sell it.

 

[tony84]

but its something totally different in my opinion i dont see why people keep comparing it.

Obviously this is my opinion and i have 1 or 2 people that can atleast see my point, i think its being ruinedfor a lot of people, obviously theres nothing i or anyone else could do about it unles they brought in a rule where domains had to be developed if bought but i cant see that ever happening.

Well ill give up on this argument as its 1 i knew i would never win but i just wanted to make a point for people to see.

 

[RogueWriter]

Personally, I think the thing that's ruining the internet the most is unsolicited email. Now THAT'S something that ticks me off.

 

[EbookLover]

The internet is about being able to share information and be a place to work/have fun etc etc.

Says whoo?

I know im really saying this on the wrong forum as a lot of people on here make money this way, but ive been thinking and domains should be taken off people who buy domains purely to just sell on and have no intention what so ever in developing them.

Well, I don't know what country you are in but I am in the USA so this statement wreaks of fascism, socialism, and communism all together in one sickly package.




But I do agree with other posts that search engines (yes, even Google...actually, especially Google) are inundated with parked pages. However, the parked pages are not the worst part. It is those shabby "doorway" pages that upset me the most. It seems that folks optimize pages for certain keywords and these pages offer very little if not NO value to the surfer. I find this all too often on google to the point where I just use Yahoo first. Google is my 3rd choice right after my second choice, MSN. Google is all hype. One key to becoming successful in this world (especially in th USA) is to hype it up. And I mean HYPE IT UP to the point where you leave your house with a jingle or a slogan or a name stuck in your head. It's all about hype...that America for you. If Google was even half as good a search engine as they and other folks make it out to be, Google would blow everyone out of the water. But that just is not the case given my experience with Google search results.

But none of this has anything to do with WE, the people. It is Google's and other Search engines respopnsibility to filter out these parked pages and doorway pages. It is only in their best interest to provide good search results. If they don't they will go the way of Excite.com. You can only run on hype for so long. After that, reality starts to set in and reality will tell you in due time whether you got it or you don't. Google, IMHO, don't. Just all hype.

 

[jeter4982]

I wouldnt go as for, as to say parked pages ruin the internet, but I do see your point. However, I do not agree with you. I think all the analogies above make pefect sense. After all, someone could argue that those parked pages provide useful links. Who is to say what is useful, and what should not be allowed? I dont think there really is an answer to this question, and thats why I think people should be able to do whatever they want with their property. Just my thoughts,

Tom

 

[EbookLover]

I'm sure people would rather see a park than a parking lot, but it's the owner's decision what to do with that property.

That's right.

I think some people's houses and cars are an eyesore, but I do not go around complaining about it and trying to change it. It is not my property therefore it is none of my business.

 

[equity78]

That's right.

I think some people's houses and cars are an eyesore, but I do not go around complaining about it and trying to change it. It is not my property therefore it is none of my business

Exactly, who is any one to tella nyone else what the internet is for or what they should no with their property you could have done well In 1930's Germany Or as anadviser to Stalin.

And yes it is the same as real estate I have an idea for a water ice company, perfect location the guy who owns it as a parking lot But I want it if you don't develop it the Govt should take from you because I want it, to put something I want that is fun (IMHO) that is a contribution, again (IMO) Same thing, you choose not to see them both because if you do your whole arguement goes out the window.

College is about education, I would like to go to Harvard for free or same price as Community College I have the grades, I will study hard I don't drink I will live in a classroom, Does not belong to me so they can charge or do what they like.


And again WHO ARE YOU to be annoyed how someone earns an honest living.

 

[IdahoFarmer]

Sunken is spot on the money. This is Real Estate. Internet Real Estate.

Real Estate developers buy up ground, subdivide, grade, lay streets, install utilities, lay foundations and build homes. Sometimes there are YEARS between the purchase of the ground and the development of the property. In fact, oftentimes the ground is resold to another for development so the initial investor can capture a profit now and let another reap the rewards (and risks) of development. Its all about speculation, demand, appreciation, the time value of money, and risk... the things of business.

When the original investor acquires the land, the land sits until the investor identifies market conditions that allow profitable actions to be taken. The land can sit for years; the vacant, weed ridden eyesore that sits undeveloped down the street and around the corner.

The similarities are infinite.

Domain names are undeveloped Internet Real Estate. Websites are the homes and businesses built there upon. There is money to be made in every stage.

I estimate the future value of my domain holdings at $x,xxx,xxx. Think I'm crazy? Think again. Here is the value heirarchy:

1) Domain name (undeveloped ground)
2) Website (house on developed ground)
3) Brand (business on developed ground)
4) Profitable Business (profitable business with numbers to back it up)

I'm taking my domains to #4. What is the present value of a business that generates a documented $250,000 in NET income per year? How about $500,000 per year? The present value of future income of $500,000/year is well over $x,xxx,xxx.

I should be there in 5 years.

 

[armstrong]

Domain names are undeveloped Internet Real Estate.

I agree about the comparison to physical real estate. One glaring difference of domain names is that there is virtually unlimited supply. Want to start a flower shop, but flowers.com is taken? Just add a word - hotflowers, flowerpower, flowerpuff, FlorasFlowers, etc - and reg it as a dotcom, or check out the several dozen other viable extensions like .us .net .org .nu .cc ad infinitum.

If anything, there is more more reason to be miffed at speculators in physical real estate, since supply is truly finite, and everything even remotely useful has an owner by now.