discuss No Domain Sales For A While

[lknights1987]

Last year with a portfolio of 500 domain names I sold 5 domain names priced at
$2888 , $2500 , $265 , $120 & $999 with my last sale in July 2022

The year before that I sold 7 domain names each sale was for $265

All sales were from Afternic apart from the highest sale $2888 which was on Dan.

I believe my domains are decent but with no sales what should I do? Reduce prices? Try another lander?

( I'm currently using Afternic NS3/NS4 landers )

 

[phaethon]

I had no sales since November (4K sale).
I have 350 names and intend to drop 50 in the next months. I also receive 30-50 bucks PPC monthly.
I have received an increased 750 buck second offer for a 4K domain on Afternic that I have rejected, but lowered the price by 1000 bucks and switched to Dan nameservers and offered a lease plan. I think having mid xxxx sales is essential during this recession.
I also had 3 stalled leads on Afternic.
That's all. Things are slow, but I don't have any renewals till mid July.

 

[Dane]

As I read in their blog / article,

use NS 3/4 for high value domains - May be for above $1000 or $2000
use NS 5/6 for low value domains - Better all those below $1000

You can that and wait for few months to see if there is any difference.

Anyone have a link to this blog or article? I'd like to see what GoDaddy/Afternic says about when they think it's best to use ns5/6 vs ns3/4.

 

[GoKaizen]

Yes. You will have a much higher chance of selling.

Afternic BIN NS5 & NS6 landers ?

 

[lknights1987]

Does anyone know how many brokers work at the Afternic lead center?

I'm only asking because I sent a couple of brokers a message the other day and no one has responded so I'm assuming there aren't many brokers working there and they are just very busy.

 

[twiki]

Does anyone know how many brokers work at the Afternic lead center?

I'm only asking because I sent a couple of brokers a message the other day and no one has responded so I'm assuming there aren't many brokers working there and they are just very busy.

I think in the weekend there is only a small number to take care of things. But they can do that on Monday of course.

 

[Leo2k]

Anyone have a link to this blog or article? I'd like to see what GoDaddy/Afternic says about when they think it's best to use ns5/6 vs ns3/4.

You can check it on this page (on the right)
https://www.afternic.com/sales-acceleration

 

[411domains]

Last year with a portfolio of 500 domain names I sold 5 domain names priced at
$2888 , $2500 , $265 , $120 & $999 with my last sale in July 2022

The year before that I sold 7 domain names each sale was for $265

All sales were from Afternic apart from the highest sale $2888 which was on Dan.

I believe my domains are decent but with no sales what should I do? Reduce prices? Try another lander?

( I'm currently using Afternic NS3/NS4 landers )

When the #1 sales producing network stops producing, it's time you start looking at the platform. I assure you, it has nothing to do with the economy or world events.

Is it a coincidence sales stopped the moment they "aligned" commissions and announced all sales occuring through their network, on domains parked outside their network, would be penalized a 25% commission? I don't believe so.

Nobody knows their portfolio better than the portfolio owner.

If you're parking with Afternic, you really should check the lead center for what appear to be auto-stall patterns.

The results may shock you.

https://www.namepros.com/threads/afternic-launches-the-lead-center-beta.1297414/

They talk about transparency, but the fact is, their transparency is minimal at best.

 

[Dane]

If you're parking with Afternic, you really should check the lead center for what appear to be auto-stall patterns.

I was confused about this as well.

 

[AEProgram]

When the #1 sales producing network stops producing, it's time you start looking at the platform. I assure you, it has nothing to do with the economy or world events.

Is it a coincidence sales stopped the moment they "aligned" commissions and announced all sales occuring through their network, on domains parked outside their network, would be penalized a 25% commission? I don't believe so.

Nobody knows their portfolio better than the portfolio owner.

If you're parking with Afternic, you really should check the lead center for what appear to be auto-stall patterns.

The results may shock you.

https://www.namepros.com/threads/afternic-launches-the-lead-center-beta.1297414/

They talk about transparency, but the fact is, their transparency is minimal at best.

I think that with ns3 ns4 you have three things that cause a stalled or confused status.

1. If you have a domain that was once a business, or it is an exact match name for something, many people that show up will just fill out the form, they don't read, they don't think, they just fill the form out.

2. Bots. If those landers had real bot protection, you will have a lot less entries on these forms.

3. Price shock but the buyer doesn't tell you. Ns3/4 has no price or even price range. I am not saying this should change, however, some people think that they could buy shoes .com for 500 bucks using a 6 year payment plan.

HD has great landers. It educate buyers, gives a price, shows testimonials, it really is a great lander. I do see some HD domains with only a contact form, I guess for names they didn't price yet or they prefer talking to the buyer.

 

[GoKaizen]

This is a good way to go. Create revenue generating websites.

Before you dive in make sure you understand it is hard. You need to spend a lot of time developing an audience and getting traffic.

Only choose markets and verticals you have a professional and personal interest in.

I am in the same boat! I am convinced that the only way forward is to develop our domains into meaningful blogs/sites and use ai tools to promote them on social media, medium/quora/Reddit et al, seo whatever!. Use ai sales landers and site builders, even Google sites. There are so many ways to push them out there to see what sticks. Make a small microsite and eventually get Adsense and affiliate links, you've then got an income-producing asset. If they start to rank then keep em for your pension. Or sell em for a premium, the days of the large marketplace brokers with crappy landers is finished. We should moved on to new ways of doing things with our domains. That's just my personal opinion. Take it for what it's worth!! GLA

 

[411domains]

I think that with ns3 ns4 you have three things that cause a stalled or confused status.

1. If you have a domain that was once a business, or it is an exact match name for something, many people that show up will just fill out the form, they don't read, they don't think, they just fill the form out.

2. Bots. If those landers had real bot protection, you will have a lot less entries on these forms.

3. Price shock but the buyer doesn't tell you. Ns3/4 has no price or even price range. I am not saying this should change, however, some people think that they could buy shoes .com for 500 bucks using a 6 year payment plan.

HD has great landers. It educate buyers, gives a price, shows testimonials, it really is a great lander. I do see some HD domains with only a contact form, I guess for names they didn't price yet or they prefer talking to the buyer.

Oh, I know there are many things that can cause confusion or stalled leads. This isn't about about sticker shock or confused buyers. It's about auto-stall leads where the lead is closed out within a few minutes without a single call being made or email sent.

If you know your portfolio, you know which domains are hit the most with spam/bots.

If you know brokers, you know they're not that not that quick.

From my portfolio alone, there were two brokers who were assigned 26 of the 100+ leads.
Every single lead assigned to them was auto-stalled within minutes, while the rest of the leads assigned to the other brokers had follow-ups, calls logged, etc.

I've already made the necessary changes to protect my investments. This was just word of advice for others using the landers. (If they're going to kill your leads, you're better off fielding them yourself.)

I agree with you about HD landers. They've always had great landers.

 

[WillW]

however,
if you list on goodaddy/afternic, they will "put" their appraisal value for your name, somewhere on the page.

Are you talking about landing pages, GD search, or something else?

I thought the appraisal value was only viewable under their appraisal section or if the listing price is lower than the estimated GD appraisal value.

 

[biggie]

Are you talking about landing pages, GD search, or something else?

I thought the appraisal value was only viewable under their appraisal section or if the listing price is lower than the estimated GD appraisal value.

Hi

inside your gd account, go to control panel and click on settings for any domain listed.

there you will see expiry date and below that is GD appraisal.

imo...

 

[lknights1987]

Hi

inside your gd account, go to control panel and click on settings for any domain listed.

there you will see expiry date and below that is GD appraisal.

imo...

Only we as the seller can see this. The only way the buyer can know about the GoDaddy appraisal is if they go to the GoDaddy appraisal page or the broker tells them.

 

[lknights1987]

Oh, I know there are many things that can cause confusion or stalled leads. This isn't about about sticker shock or confused buyers. It's about auto-stall leads where the lead is closed out within a few minutes without a single call being made or email sent.

If you know your portfolio, you know which domains are hit the most with spam/bots.

If you know brokers, you know they're not that not that quick.

From my portfolio alone, there were two brokers who were assigned 26 of the 100+ leads.
Every single lead assigned to them was auto-stalled within minutes, while the rest of the leads assigned to the other brokers had follow-ups, calls logged, etc.

I've already made the necessary changes to protect my investments. This was just word of advice for others using the landers. (If they're going to kill your leads, you're better off fielding them yourself.)

I agree with you about HD landers. They've always had great landers.

The ones that auto stalled were they priced low or high?

 

[biggie]

Only we as the seller can see this. The only way the buyer can know about the GoDaddy appraisal is if they go to the GoDaddy appraisal page or the broker tells them.

Hi

the point was, that it was there for you to see.

once you see it, then the pondering begins.
this is particularly true for those who don't have an idea of what their names are worth.

still, any potential buyer can see "estimated value" for domains listed in gd auctions as well.
and those estimations are tied to gd appraisal algorithm.

it's not outside of the realm of "common sense" that a random searcher will connect the dots.

imo...

 

[magnificentdomains]

I'm curious if you are underpricing your domains... Could you list some domains at random that you sold for <$500?

 

[411domains]

The ones that auto stalled were they priced low or high?

I guess that depends entirely upon what your definition of low and high is.
It was a mix. (2K to 50K)

 

[lknights1987]

I guess that depends entirely upon what your definition of low and high is.
It was a mix. (2K to 50K)

Is 50k your highest priced domains?

Only asking because one thing I’m noticing is when a lead comes in for one of my low priced domains within a few minutes to a few hours the status changes to stalled or confused.

I had 1 lead come through for a high priced domain the other day. That domain name is still sitting in the qualifying status ( broker has sent 3 emails and called twice). So are brokers only interested in working on the high priced domains and the rest can be forgotten about ?

 

[Dane]

So are brokers only interested in working on the high priced domains and the rest can be forgotten about ?

Good point / question.