.mobi News of .MOBIs Demise Have Been Greatly Exaggerated.

[DBADT2007]

I didn't get a chance to comment on the now closed forum: iPhone Annihilates Mobi's Future?

While I don't agree with homebuyer's deductive reasoning from the facts, I do respect it. The facts, that homebuyer referenced, can be interpreted in numerous ways and from the article, I could equally deduct that dot mobi domains will be in a much better position since the slow internet access speeds will cripple most mobile phone users that try to access fully featured dotcom sites. And yes WIFI is a great option, but we don't have complete nationwide WIFI coverage, which means that we are usually near a pc when there's a WIFI presence, thus making this feature a nice bonus but not a deal breaker. In contrast dot mobi offers a streamlined and optimized version that is made for mobile phones, takes advantage of mobile phone features, and is mobile compliant as its extension implies.

Additionally, this infers on the premise that everyone decides to get iPhones and no other mobile phones will be as dominant. I am not so sure that the iPhone will be the only mobile phone to have; what is trendy and hip today is not necessarily true forever.

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Well, the reviews are in for the iPhone and what all dot mobiers knew, has come to pass. I am in a great mood, all dot mobi supporters have been vindicated today.

According to http://tech.msn.com/products/articlepcw.aspx?cp-documentid=5060983

This is what the iPhone reviewers had to say regarding iPhone's internet access and web browsing (in regards to web browsing - it was sure nice of them to say, as tactful as possible, that Apple can't really deliver on those full .com websites, lol.)

The EDGE network
Ed: "pokey"
Walt and Katie: "pokey"
David: "excruciatingly slow"
Steven: "feels like dial-up speed"

Web Browsing
Steven: "It does the best job yet of compressing the World Wide Web on a palm-size device."
Walt and Katie: "…best Web browser we have seen on a smart phone …"


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Anyways...we .mobiers forgive Apple for its arrogance and shortsightedness. Hopefully the rest of the world will be as forgiving when they access the web .coms and end up finding themselves waiting and waiting and waiting for the fully featured web to download to their iPhones. lol

 

[Badger]

News of .MOBIs Demise Have Been Greatly Exaggerated.

Jeez man..

Lets look at this objectively, before WW3 breaks out...

Some reviewers of a new product have made some negative reviews.. Right? So what on earth does this have to do with the success or failure of the .mobi TLD??

 

[DBADT2007]

Jeez man..

Lets look at this objectively, before WW3 breaks out...

Some reviewers of a new product have made some negative reviews.. Right? So what on earth does this have to do with the success or failure of the .mobi TLD??

Hey Badger,
Thanks for commenting. I was being objective when I wrote the title. After all some people believe dot mobi will cease to exist or to be justified as a valid extension after the release of the iPhone. The reviewers made the point of stating that the iPhone has a slow connection to the Internet in direct connection to web browsing. So what's the point? The point is that .mobi is streamlined, optimized, compact, and true to its extension by being specifically designed for mobile users.

Personally I have nothing against Apple or the iPhone. I do however think that Apple was presumptuous and arrogant in its advertising of its iPhone as the mobile phone that accesses just the Internet, while implying that anything else would be inferior. So, now that reviews show that its connection is less than ideal, well, it seems fitting to call Apple on it.

 

[DomainMayhem.com]

Just saw an iPhone TV ad bashing dotmobi

I just saw an iphone commercial bashing dotmobi by explaining how the iphone was going to give everyone the real internet, not just some "watered-down" version. They go on to say that a different "mobile internet" would not be needed, among other deragotory statements aimed right at dotmobi. Is this new? I guess Apple is really afraid that people might like dotmobi cause with the extension they can easily access the internet with mobile devices that aren't apple, which will hurt iphone sales.

 

[gou]

Yes, we know. It's been discussed many times.
Thanks anyway.

 

[DomainMayhem.com]

I have not seen this attitude from iphone discussed in the last week or so, so that is why it surprised me. Not everyone has been coming to .mobi forum for months. But thanks for taking the time to reply, nice of ya.

 

[accent]

Thing is that one of the original .Mobi investors is Microsoft. Apple is in competetion with MS therefore Apple hates .Mobi. Yahoo is trying to go without .Mobi because Google is an investor in .Mobi.

 

[creature]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzV-W_6WOm0

 

[RJ]

Some discussion related to this over here ->
http://www.namepros.com/dot-mobi/343652-shot-down-iphone-local-radio-station.html

 

[RJ]

The iPhone will put the mobile internet in the hands of those that currently don't have it, and the slow speed of the iPhone network is just going to increase the demand for streamlined (read: MOBI) websites. This can only be a good thing for MOBI, so long as efforts are made to promote MOBI sites to iPhone users.

 

[bachelor2000]

Thing is that one of the original .Mobi investors is Microsoft. Apple is in competetion with MS therefore Apple hates .Mobi. Yahoo is trying to go without .Mobi because Google is an investor in .Mobi.

AGREE !

 

[namewaiter]

as flavor flav once said, "don't ... don't ... don't believe the hype!"

 

[garrett200]

Thing is that one of the original .Mobi investors is Microsoft. Apple is in competetion with MS therefore Apple hates .Mobi. Yahoo is trying to go without .Mobi because Google is an investor in .Mobi.

.mobi wars, already? LOL, I don't really think that's a thought in anyone's mind yet. None of them are promoting it. They're ALL going without .mobi!!!

I WISH those two backers were actively promoting .mobi! I think it would help the cause a bit, don't you?

AGREE !

Not me.

 

[cyberken13]

That was a good and concise post RJ. The concept of .Mobi and products like the IPhone will help to usher in the true Mobile Age which has languished for years under some of the very same carriers who have now started the Mtld and are backing products like the IPhone. Their actions show they now realize the explosive growth "Internet Mobility" is about to experience.

 

[garrett200]

This is like saying .net will never make it because Apple just released the Apple II PC.

It will be interesting to read posts from HasRob, GregR, Homebuyer and others in 5 years when the iPhone is thought of as the "beta VCR" of its day.

These guys seem to think that this thing is going to corner the market for web browsing on phones, and Apple will have zero competition. The fact is that there are better products out RIGHT NOW that do a better job.

Whoever buys this is going to be disappointed. They will be locked into a 2 year contract, and won't be able to take advantage of any better technology, which will come rather quickly I suspect.

It's normally not a wise decision to buy the first version of anything.

 

[PVFARKAS]

it may not even be all about the .mobi. The Ad and PR worlds have ways of doing things. perhaps they are waiting for iphone's stage presence to lower and then will advertise. why dive into that hype when you know it will diminish (may take a while, may not, but hype always diminishes either because the product doesn't meet expectations or because something better comes along). Perhaps they are waiting for users to dislike things about browsing that way. Perhaps they know that the bulk of companies are still in the midst of developing and its too early.

take this parallel. Microsoft's surface computer is coming out in October 2007(?). It looks really cool. 52 multitouch vs. iphone's 2. but what about its advertising. apple came out first and will appear as the godfather or inventer of surfacing to many. all hail apple. but microsoft has not tried to share the stage (well maybe a little with video previews, but not tv ads to my knowledge). They haven't due to ad/marketing strategy and right time and place i guess.

as .mobi investors, we say it looks great on paper, you have the names, you have tons of cash, you all could do and it would look like everyone's doing it, so "do it." But with new ads on tv integrating laptops and website names beyond just the bottom the screen (eg kia.com with the flipbook and jetersfordchallenge, etc) airing all over the screen, it may just be a waiting period to see the shakedown between marketshare and cell users before companis make their decisions...

 

[dag]

These guys seem to think that this thing is going to corner the market for web browsing on phones, and Apple will have zero competition. The fact is that there are better products out RIGHT NOW that do a better job.

Whoever buys this is going to be disappointed. They will be locked into a 2 year contract, and won't be able to take advantage of any better technology, which will come rather quickly I suspect.

It's normally not a wise decision to buy the first version of anything.

I won't presume to foresee the future, but I think a lot of folks expect this to work out like the iPod. The main difference is that there was no real competition in terms of a good personal music player when the iPod was unveiled. There are, however, as you said, many excellent phones already on the market, and many more on the way. For that reason alone, I don't think the iPhone will be able to dominate in the same way...

 

[garrett200]

Just wait till the major cell carriers, along with their manufacturers, come up with their new releases and service plans. I think there is going to be a lot of going on.....

I can almost hear it already: "I want my $600 back, along with the 2 years of my life"

I didn't get a chance to comment on the now closed forum: iPhone Annihilates Mobi's Future?

I didn't either. They seem to shut down threads just when it gets interesting......

 

[DBADT2007]

Hey Everyone!
Thanks for dropping by and commenting.

DomainMayhem.com: Yep, Apple did launch a direct attack on dot mobi (in its 4th ad). Some of us have been discussing this since it was launched. I believe Apple's intention was to market the iPhone as an advancement in internet portability with access to fully featured websites; most likely a PR move. But, I think the PR department didn't consult the tech department or maybe they decided to ignore them, otherwise they would of known of the limitations and potential problems that might arise from making that statement- now they will have to face public scrutiny due to the slow connections or maybe they will just play the blame game with ATT, as the service provider.

gou: Very true and we keep talking about this Ad, maybe because we keep asking ourselves what was Apple thinking? lol.

accentnepal: interesting point you made. I thought most of the big corporations had jumped in, with the exception of Apple. Even Yahoo has a dotmobi site (yes, I have noticed most of the big guys are using redirects to dotcom sections, but I believe most of them are still testing the waters and analyzing their data) and I read not to long ago that Yahoo beat Google to using advertisements specifically targeted on its mobile search version. Here are the links relating to this...
http://www.mobile-tech-today.com/ne...bile-Search/story.xhtml?story_id=112002S47QXC
http://www.internetnews.com/ec-news/article.php/3668086
http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9588_22-6170678.html

creature: Thanks for providing the link for the Ad in question.

-RJ-: Thanks for providing the link to the discussion and I definitely agree...we should market directly to iPhone users. First thing they will notice about dotmobi sites is how fast they load on the iPhone. :p

namewaiter: Quite true. But to be honest I do think the iPhone is pretty cool I just think Apple took the wrong direction; instead of going against dotmobi they should have pushed dotmobi with the iPhone. Think about it...if the iPhone pushed dotmobi it would of almost received all positive marks from the reviews, a lot of the iPhone's complaints have to do with the internet connection directly linked to web browsing.

garrett200: hmm, mixed feelings here. I don't think the big corps are going without dotmobi. I think that what's happening is that they are still waiting on each other to see if the tech will catch on, if the next mobile killer ap is going to be developed, waiting on more people to add the mobile internet to their phones (yes a good number of people haven't done so yet- sounds like Internet Beginnings circa 1994-1997), and wouldn't be surprised if they are waiting on a VISA payment processing project. I agree with you, I do miss our opponents, not because I like to argue with them but because they offer helpful insight into the skeptic mind (sorry to hear that you didn't get a chance to comment on the closed forum: iPhone Annihilates Mobi's Future?). On another note, now that I think about it the iPhone was actually more of a response to the Helio phones which was introduced with a built in MySpace access with a focus on internet/data plans. However, the helio mobile phone has a blazing internet connection speed (i believe I read its comparable to dsl speed).

cyberken13: Totally agree with both you and RJ. The first phase of the Internet was the development of world wide communications and commerce. Now its about speed, instantaneous updates, portability, wirefree interconnectivity, and some AI development.

PVFARKAS: Definitely agree with you. The big corps might be waiting on the iPhone hype to die down a bit. Its also quite possible they are waiting on the consumer to see the iPhone in action and gage consumer response to the technology to figure out which strategy they will be applying. New projects may be in development in secrecy and as a result the companies are silent- waiting to advertise these new developments along with the dotmobi sites. It is also possible that they are waiting on the dotmobi community to work toward in common goal in marketing and advertising the dotmobi tld.

dagersh: Agreed, but by the same token we shouldn't underestimate Apple's impulse to push the iPhone. The iPhone does have a cool factor; the question should be...will it be enough? Personally, I don't believe so...however a serious price reduction or some killer ap development; may change the outcome. We should keep an eye on this technology.

 

[Traveler]

I think the PR department didn't consult the tech department or maybe they decided to ignore them, otherwise they would of known of the limitations and potential problems that might arise from making that statement- now they will have to face public scrutiny due to the slow connections or maybe they will just play the blame game with ATT, as the service provider.

I think you hit the nail on the head there. If the Iphone doesn't live up to it's commercial then what happens? If users that paid a lot of money to experience "just the internet" realize "just the internet" sucks on an Iphone what effect will that have on the mobile web? Will that effect boost .mobi? These are questions we will soon have the answer to.