New PETA ad with Tiger!! Lol

[liquidcherry]

PETA wants to stop little tigers from getting wood | EW.com

 

[Gerrit]

Well, no compassion with Tiger Woods as the guy comes across as a bit of a maniac to me with no respect to women, but PETA ... I've been vegetarian almost all my life and turned vegan not so long ago so I would consider myself as one standing up for animal rights. PETA sometimes does brilliant publications (their collaboration on the very informative GoVeg.com site as an example) but sometimes also does stuff that is so silly that it makes us vegetarians/vegans look like extremists or crazy folks.

Remember PETA also spoke scandal of Barack Obama after hitting a fly during a TV show. Whereas I would not kill a fly personally, the fly "incident" was hardly the most interesting fact of the broadcast and PETA blew it so much out of proportion that they were ridiculising not only themselves and the values they stand for, but indirectly also us vegeterians and vegans. Because one thing that's important : respect other opinions, don't force your veganism on others. To spread the word and explain why it's good is one thing, to go preaching and acting as if someone is a criminal for hitting a fly makes the whole ideology look foolish. PETA hurt themselves and their credibility with such actions.

This Tiger Woords campaign is yet another such example. Couldn't PETA stick to serious stuff please? If even I, who's not eaten any meat or fish for 22 years and counting, get irritated by their campaigns sometimes, I can imagine the effect on meat eaters will be even stronger.

 

[johname]

"too much sex can be a bad thing"

i bet those cats and dogs dont think their getting too much.

A company put woody allen on a billboard without his permission and got their a$s handed to them in a lawsuit not long ago

they really knew they wernt going to put up the tiger pic on the actual billboard, what they really wanted was that pic floatting on blogs

 

[Gerrit]

Animals don't have sex for fun, except for dolphins and some monkey sorts. Most animals just think in terms of reproduction and will have intercourse with whoever can provide that reproduction. A rabbit will hump on anything that remotely looks like a living creature ... compared to the average rabbit, Tiger Woods should get a medal for loyalty to his partner ...

The point is, other than using someone's image for publicity without permission, PETA cannot expect to be taken seriously if they keep coming up with silly stuff from time to time. Which I find a pity because in a way it even leads to us vegans taken less seriously. I sometimes get tired of the "but what do you eat then?" (maybe I should answer "grass and carrots only" with a sarcastic undertone) or the "keep on eating your rabbit food, that means more beef for me" ... But then it's up to us vegetarians and vegans to make sure we are taken seriously. PETA sometimes does great work but then make fools of themselves the next day with the next campaign.

 

[johname]

I am glad at least monkeys and dolphins figured out how to enjoy sex lol

they dont care if their taken seriously, they care if your hearing about them (PETA)

 

[dgridley]

I think the campaign is in poor taste.. and as for Tiger, who cares really? He's a golfer.. if he plays a good round of golf, that's all I care about.

 

[enlytend]

I think the campaign is in poor taste.

I agree it's in poor taste...But then I really despise PETA. Dig past the ads and the slogans and there's a lot not to love.

Their REAL agenda, as stated on many occasions by their founders, is to have no interraction between the lives of animals and humans at all. Not only no farms, hunting/fishing or lab research, but no service dogs and no pets either. They have allied themselves with groups who have participated in domestic terrorism. What about those animals they "rescue" from labs and shelters? They put most of them down! They kill over 90% of the animals they take in, including the healthy, adoptable ones! (By comparison, the SPCA in the same region PLACES over 70% of the animals they take in.) Real animal rescue groups hate them. They deliberately target kids, teens, college students to spread their propaganda for free. They do have a lovely big building for their headquarters, spend a lot on advertising and pay their executives very, very well.

A little reading: Better dead than fed, PETA says - SFGate

FWIW, I've been a vegetarian since I was in college (back in prehistoric times ) and I have done volunteer work for REPUTABLE animal rescue groups who actually make a diference over many, many years. PETA turns my stomach.

If you think these guys are the great animal protecters they try to portray themselves as being, do some research. I'd describe them more as an UNethical bunch of whackos.

 

[barefoottech]

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Self-righteous TWATS telling someone else what they should be not doing.

PETA should stick to doing what they do best.

err. Umm .

Buggered if I know what they do well !!!

 

[James]

PETA are idiots and I hate how they label what we are as people.

I've been asked afew times if I believed in what PETA preached and it was usually because the person asking it wanted to call me an idiot for believing in everything they done. To bad I hate them with a passion and think their apart of the problem. Read up about what they've done and you'll realise it aswell.

 

[Gerrit]

I agree it's in poor taste...But then I really despise PETA. Dig past the ads and the slogans and there's a lot not to love.

Their REAL agenda, as stated on many occasions by their founders, is to have no interraction between the lives of animals and humans at all. Not only no farms, hunting/fishing or lab research, but no service dogs and no pets either. They have allied themselves with groups who have participated in domestic terrorism. What about those animals they "rescue" from labs and shelters? They put most of them down! They kill over 90% of the animals they take in, including the healthy, adoptable ones! (By comparison, the SPCA in the same region PLACES over 70% of the animals they take in.) Real animal rescue groups hate them. They deliberately target kids, teens, college students to spread their propaganda for free. They do have a lovely big building for their headquarters, spend a lot on advertising and pay their executives very, very well.

A little reading: Better dead than fed, PETA says - SFGate

FWIW, I've been a vegetarian since I was in college (back in prehistoric times ) and I have done volunteer work for REPUTABLE animal rescue groups who actually make a diference over many, many years. PETA turns my stomach.

If you think these guys are the great animal protecters they try to portray themselves as being, do some research. I'd describe them more as an UNethical bunch of whackos.

Another veggie! Are you vegan like me, or are you lacto-ovo vegetarian?

I was 6 years old when I became vegetarian (28 years old now) and been vegan since about a year and some months now. None of my family members are vegetarians, my parents eat meat so it was not like I was raised a vegetarian. It was my own choice. And that's how it should be ; it's for that reason that I dislike vegetarian organisations who start preaching and act like those eating meat are idiots of some sort. Live and let live I'd say. I will never try to convert someone into vegetarianism or veganism, the ONLY thing I ask is that others respect my choice and not try to force meat or fish on me.


I do think PETA does some good work sometimes, raising awareness on animal rights is always good. The problem is that their good work is eliminated by themselves by starting offensive or idiotic campaigns. So yeah, you are right they just want to be known, but if people know you it doesn't mean they take you serious as well. They sometimes make all non-meat-eaters look like extremists or idiots, while I'd rather not be classified as any of those.


As for Tiger Woods: he's a good golfer, which is what atters to the outside world. What he does in his private life is the business of ONLY him and the women involved. Dito for all other famous people who "play away games" (soccer fans probably heard that half of the Chelsea FC team have slept with the ex-wife of former Chelsea player Wayne Bridge ... whereas I understand that this must be an unpleasant situation for those involved, it doesn't really matter regarding their sporting skills and it's not the outside world's business)

I also point the blaming finger to the many sponsors of Tiger Woods who broke their contracts because of "image reasons" while they didn't sign those contracts in the first place because of the private life of Tiger Woods. They signed those deals because he's a good golf player, which he still is. To break sponsorship deals for things that are not remotely related to his golfing performances is very wrong IMO.

 

[dgridley]

I agree there for the most part.. the problem being is he had a squeaky clean image til lately which is the image the sponsors want to project. It's their option to drop Woods because he no longer fits the image. I really don't think most people care but it's their choice.

I also point the blaming finger to the many sponsors of Tiger Woods who broke their contracts because of "image reasons" while they didn't sign those contracts in the first place because of the private life of Tiger Woods. They signed those deals because he's a good golf player, which he still is. To break sponsorship deals for things that are not remotely related to his golfing performances is very wrong IMO.

 

[enlytend]

Another veggie! Are you vegan like me, or are you lacto-ovo vegetarian?

I've gone back and forth on it, but lacto ovo these days, partly for practical reasons. I'm also carb-sensitive and frequently spend entire weekends in out-of-the-way places with a food vendor who doesn't have any vegetarian options and nothing else for miles around. I can usually find something on the menu to give me a little protein fix if I need it, otherwise I'd need to prepare and bring ALL my own food, which would be pretty time-consuming. My parents weren't vegetarian either and were horrified when I announced my choice in my college years - I'm sure my mother thought I'd end up with some third-world vitamin deficiency or something .

It was my own choice. And that's how it should be ; it's for that reason that I dislike vegetarian organisations who start preaching and act like those eating meat are idiots of some sort. Live and let live I'd say. I will never try to convert someone into vegetarianism or veganism, the ONLY thing I ask is that others respect my choice and not try to force meat or fish on me.

:tu: Me too! And I really REALLY try to be patient with people who ask me, in the middle of a dinner, why I'm a vegetarian. I appreciate the curiousity, but seriously though unintential it borders on being rude. I mean, do I ask you why you DO eat meat? Or Carrots? Or whatever? (I don't ask things like that). So I try not to make a big deal out of it - in fact, in a couple of jobs I had I ate lunch with people every day who eventually realized that I was a vegetarian ... after a couple of years :D.

A little more on PETA founder and leader Ingrid Newkirk: Ingrid Newkirk Quotes

 

[James]

I've never really been asked many questions on why I'm vegan, when I have been, Just say documentaries + compassion.

Raised with no vegetarian background here, went straight vegan.

 

[Gerrit]

I was only 6 years old when I went vegetarian so my parents were probably thinking it was one of those impulsive things like kids do, then to forget it the next week. I was a stubborn kid however. 28 years old now and haven't eaten meat or fish again ever since. I must say though, it was quite nice that my parents respected my choice, even when this meant my poor mother (until the age I was old enough to have learnt to prepare own food) always had to cook separately for me... During family dinners there was always the issue that I was the only veggie (although I skipped most family meetings for other reasons) and back in these days it wasn't so easy to find a vegetarian restaurant as it is now. But hey, it's nice to be a pioneer.

When people ask me, it doesn't bother me, as long as they respect my choice. When the undertone is like "how can you survive?" or when they try to fool me as weither there is dairy in something or not (I quickly learnt to always check the ingredients rather than just trust someone on their word ) then I can get irritated a bit. But as long as it's normal curiosity, then I don't mind and will explain the benefits of vegetarianism/veganism although without being pushy.



As for Tiger Woods: companies mainly wanted a sponsorship deal with him because he won trophies. He represented the image of a perfectionist, a winner, one who was better than all his competitors in what he was doing. That image is still intact, his private life doesn't affect that. To break sponsorship deals based on what he does in his private life is a bit hypocrite IMO because his private life wasn't the reason why they signed these deals in the first place. They signed him because he wins trophies, not because he was a good husband or father.

That said, I don't get why they pay these celebrities so much for a publicity campaign. I've seen some companies with Tiger Woods' picture behind the reception desk, or with a picture of a famous football player at the wall, wondering what the point was when this business had nothing to do with sport. Some other companies I saw promoted their gear (like razor blades or so) with Roger Federer or David Beckham. I seriously wonder why someone would want that type of razor just because Roger Federer would use the same brand ... So there is something odd about those sponsorship deals in the first place. But if you do sign them, be consequent: it's not for their private life they signed the deal, so don't break the deal when the celebrity is still performing his sport in a good way and winning trophies.

All I'm saying, it's silly in the first place to think a product would be better because a celebrity promotes it. I've seen rome Pepsi advertisement where David Beckham drinks one nod of Pepsi, sighs out of joy as if he just tasted the best drink in the world and smiles into the camera. For that one swallow of Pepsi Cola and those 5 seconds in front of the camera lense he was probably paid tons of money. Would there really be any person running to the grocery store to buy Pepsi just because he saw David Beckham faking to enjoy a bottle of that drink?! To then spend the amount on a celebrity promoting that is money wasted IMO. I can drink a whole Pepsi bottle and smile in the lense for way lower amounts, I'll even add a free burp and the Pepsi you buy would taste exactly the same as the one David Beckham drank in that commercial.

 

[mtown934]

Even as a huge lover of animals, I have no love for PETA and how they deal with things. They are too dramatic about small things and try to draw too much attention to themselves for the larger issues. This is just another example of that.

 

[BocaVision]

Tiger cheats, gets ostrasized.

Charlie Sheen assualts his wife with an knife and punches her, yet I still see his commercials, his TV show is still on the air, and sponsors aren't jumping like rats off a ship.

Warren Beatty has sex with over 13,000 women. Nothing. Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson score thousands. Nothing.

Believe me, Tiger wasn't the only golfer swinging his club on other courses.

Get over it -- apparently his wife has, she looked awfully happy on her ski trip.