discuss New gTLD Renewal Prices

[Frank Demitri]

I have been looking around new tld's and wanted to ask about there renewal pricing. They have different renewals anywhere from $5 to $50 or may be even more. What do you all think is the right renewal price. Is there a right answer to this or does it just depend the tld it self. Does it matter if the tld is a gtld or a cctld or anyother category that it will have a higher or lower tld.

I have been particularly looking into .top, .xyz, .online, .site, .win and .gdn and out of all .top is so far the cheapest in terms of renewal as far as I know.

It will be interesting to see all the input.

 

[bluebox]

Personally I see cheap register but expensive renewal as a bait and switch tactic, trying to get the user locked in so they have to continue paying a high price or lose all their visitors.

I think registries are shooting themselves in the foot with all those $1 promotions.
I went on a shopping spree and registered over 1000 3-letter .tech. There's no way I could renew all of them.
I'll try to sell what I have and I will let the rest expire. And depending on the current price I might buy some of them after drop. Why pay renewal when I can buy it back for $1.
In case of .tech Godaddy is really being greedy - renewal fee at Uniregistry is $30 so wholesale price is even lower (let's say $29). So GD keeps over $40 for every name, more than even a renewal fee. I guess they hope some of the names are picked on expiring auctions - and the buyer has to pay additional renewal - pretty profitable scheme.

 

[brandnow]

premium renewals for ngtld names is a serious plague for the entire industry.

 

[Fancy.domains]

where can i transfer .xyz domains to? any cheap registrars charging less than 10 dollars? thanks, guys.

$0.99 with 1&1.

If you don't like them, $9.29 with Namesilo.

Source: https://www.domcomp.com

 

[Jurgen Wolf]

$0.99 with 1&1.

+ $0.18 ICANN = $1.17

 

[ddfenton]

Just came upon this today - TLD LIST
Compare Prices of All Top-Level Domains/TD List
https://tld-list.com
A bit confusing interface so after the .com type in /tld/date if you want to know about .date - leave the . out. Example: https://tld-list.com/tld/press
Don't know anything else about them but you can get it to list transfers and/or renewals in ascending or descending order.

 

[brindle123]

Radix is horrible for insane renewals on .tech and other extensions, anytime I see one of their releases, I just avoid it, and you will just ending up registering subpar stuff, and filling their pockets by carrying their low quality inventory.

That's what I'm afraid of. I have a couple I would like to keep, but will drop the rest if prices don't change.

Many people on here only bought things because they were $1. Renewals are a whole nother investment.

 

[Frank Demitri]

I just wrote to Radix to complain about renewal prices and how they will affect domains being dropped if too high.

I think they should be comparable to .com in pricing. Anything higher just drives people, investors/end users back into .com

The premiums are way too high and people can still get a good .com for the price they are asking for some of the new gtlds.

Right now, anything over $15 and I have to think hard about renewing it unless I really like it.

@brindle123 I agree to some extent but do you think new gtlds cannot compete with .com at the moment because it has been out for decades. I particularly wanted to highlight the competition between new gtlds as stated above. Although you have a good point I think I would be happy to renew domains for around $12 to $15 as well.

 

[Frank Demitri]

That's what I'm afraid of. I have a couple I would like to keep, but will drop the rest if prices don't change.

Many people on here only bought things because they were $1. Renewals are a whole nother investment.

@brindle123 That how they all earn money. But the trend is the renewals usually go down for new tlds as seen with .top, .xyz etc

 

[mhdoc]

Good strategy BUT it's not a permanent solution. How would you keep rotating your domains? It's a big hassle and would burn you out. I did in my early domain career and it's not worth it

Good point. I think a lot of the conflicting opinions in many threads result from the perspective change which happens as you go from 25 to 100 to 500 to 1,000 domains.

I know I could find domains cheaper by looking over drop lists and searching for coupons/deals but I think it is a better use of my time to let someone else do that and pay more on NamePros auctions.

 

[Frank Demitri]

New gtlds are in competition with .com from the start as far as pricing is concerned. The good stuff is held back buy the registry and the prices are way to high for a new gtld. In many cases you can get a good .com from a reseller for the price the registry wants for a new gtld. They are asking $50,000 per year on some of their domains. If you want to build a site and have it up for 5yrs, that's $250,000 just for the domain name in an unproven extension that will bleed customers to the .com owner anyway.

They need to at least be somewhat reasonable with renewal prices. That is why renewals go down, plus low sales data to support people being able to afford to renew domains. I understand selling them cheap. It's to get people in the door, boost registration numbers, and hope that you can sucker them into renewing at higher fees.

Keeping prices reasonable will keep renewal numbers higher, keep people invested in the extension, and it will give the extension time to get sites developed. Without those things, the numbers will decline.

Other extensions are on the horizon too. This will not help renewal numbers. If I can reg a new extension for $1 or renew an old one for $20 that hasn't had any sales, nothing is getting developed on, has no end user support, I and most people will drop the high priced one and move on to the next big thing.

If you could renew one domain for $30 or reg. 30 new domains for $30, more then likely you will go for the 30 domains and drop the $30 single domain.

I guess that's why .top is low on renewals as per my understanding. Although I have 0 domains in .top but what I have learned is that they are chinese based and thats why you have low renewal for them. For some reason it just bugs the hell out of me because these tlds are pricing their renewals regionally. USA will pay more so higher renewal, china will pay less so lower renewal...just saying you know.

 

[SiteMachine]

Good strategy BUT it's not a permanent solution. How long would you keep rotating your domains? It's a big hassle and would burn you out. I did in my early domain career and it's not worth it

I appreciate your concern but I wrote software to manage the bulk of it. Even so, 'burn out' is not an appropriate reason to overpay in my opinion. If you are selling the names regularly you rarely have to transfer them more than once and any manual work I have to do is done at the same time which I actually evaluate if I am trying to hold the name or not which is obviously necessary for a sound strategy.

Good point. I think a lot of the conflicting opinions in many threads result from the perspective change which happens as you go from 25 to 100 to 500 to 1,000 domains.

I know I could find domains cheaper by looking over drop lists and searching for coupons/deals but I think it is a better use of my time to let someone else do that and pay more on NamePros auctions.

I'm at several hundred but with my management software I see no problem scaling up to several thousand if I were so inclined (I don't think I'd want to attempt to hold that many names anyway but I digress)

I'm confused though mhdoc, you say this but didn't you just post above that you think a .com only strategy is the way to go because all your renewals will be $20 instead of $10? Which one is it? Does cash matter to you or is time the only factor? I don't see why you would specifically want to pay more at an auction but are unwilling to save yourself ~$19 or literally 95% a lot of the time by transferring.

 

[mhdoc]

I hadn't thought about transferring as a way to save $. I will have to look into that. Since I like to develop as many of my domains as possible the DNS settings add a bit of complexity to transfers. It also means a friendly user interface has value.

As far as a dot com strategy I was just looking for other people's thoughts about the idea. I did not mean to claim it was the best way to do things.

 

[SiteMachine]

I bet most of your domains are nGTLDs. I'm glad things are working out for you well.
My 99.5% of the domains are dotcom. Finally, I got a nice deal with godaddy for $8.29 per year renewal fee. All the best

Yes, you are posting in a thread titled "New gTLD Renewal Prices" so i was referring to the nGTLDs. I would argue that .com is off topic for this thread.

 

[SiteMachine]

For some reason it just bugs the hell out of me because these tlds are pricing their renewals regionally. USA will pay more so higher renewal, china will pay less so lower renewal...just saying you know.

Remember the internet is a global marketplace, just get yourself a credit card with no foreign transaction fees and use the translate feature of chrome... GMO in japan has very cheap ngtld deals.

Since I like to develop as many of my domains as possible the DNS settings add a bit of complexity to transfers. It also means a friendly user interface has value.

I can respect that. Most of the good registrars have simple APIs for changing dns settings so I have that happen automatically when the transfer is successful. The ones that don't can be scripted easily with watir-webdriver

So, you are kicking me out. That's not courteous... Please chill

Lol... no one is kicking you out, I said you were off topic which should have been common sense. I'm sorry but I am chill, you are the one that pointed to your .com ownership as proof of the condescending post where you quoted me and said "Don't worry when you have more domains you'll see that isn't a viable strategy". I'm simply pointing out that your evidence is really just proof you are wrong and again off topic.

 

[mhdoc]

[QUOTE="SiteMachine, post: 5439304, member: 984800"
Most of the good registrars have simple APIs for changing dns settings so I have that happen automatically when the transfer is successful. The ones that don't can be scripted easily with watir-webdriver
[/QUOTE]

I am reminded of an old quote about how Nothing is as simple as what we understand or as difficult as what we don't.

In my case that would be the "scripted easily..." statement. It's much like the "just learn a little css and/or Javascript" advice I frequently run into. However, at my age I don't expect to live long enough to make it worth the effort

Good advice/ideas for younger folks though.

 

[ZapNano]

The word "OFF Topic" is very hard to accomplished. If YOU tell me that all your thoughts, opinions, ideas etc. are solely for that topic; and never toggled up with others. YOU ARE IN DENIAL. Big time!

 

[ZapNano]

When you do any type of transactions using any type of anything to purchased something around the globe or inside the globe via something and somthing. All fees are applicable...

 

[SiteMachine]

@MisterSoft.com just as you are allowed to go off topic and quote .com prices in a ngTLD thread (oh and not even .com prices but godaddy domain club prices that you failed to say cost $120/yr to qualify for) I am allowed to be sarcastic if I want. I never claimed to be perfect simply relevant to this discussion which neither you or @ZapNano have been.

As for the Sarah Palin comment, I thought it was a slightly nicer way than saying this:

The word "OFF Topic" is very hard to accomplished. If YOU tell me that all your thoughts, opinions, ideas etc. are solely for that topic; and never toggled up with others. YOU ARE IN DENIAL. Big time!

When you do any type of transactions using any type of anything to purchased something around the globe or inside the globe via something and somthing. All fees are applicable...

If you think you are writing coherent english YOU ARE IN DENIAL. Big time! What does that second post even mean? All fees are applicable? Are you trying to say his .com prices are applicable to a ngTLD thread in a gTLD subforum? smh, they are not.

If making valid points is a tantrum to you then you must be living a sad life my friend.

 

[SiteMachine]

Yes it does, so I would prefer you post in your native language and then maybe I can translate it and have some idea of what you are saying. As it is you posted incoherent jibberish. @MisterSoft.com likes the comment so maybe he can translate for us.

 

[ZapNano]

Yes it does, so I would prefer you post in your native language and then maybe I can translate it and have some idea of what you are saying. As it is you posted incoherent jibberish. @MisterSoft.com likes the comment so maybe he can translate for us.

I know more than one dialects or languages. Should I brag about it...of course not. This is not my native language, yes you are right. So this is your native language; therefore, when you write term papers or trying to understand words, there is no excuse for you to make a mistake. Since your "English" is your native language, I believe you never used a dictionary to look up words. Neither, you did proof writting and proof reading. What's the point of going to school if you think you have it all....in your version...

 

[SiteMachine]

Huh? What does that have to do with what I said?

 

[ZapNano]

Huh? What does that have to do with what I said?

I'm stupid, but not that stupid...

 

[SiteMachine]

Ok, I stand corrected. Your reading comprehension is as much to blame for your incoherent writing. I now see that you have not read and/or understood much if any of this which is why your responses are quite frankly not relevant to anything being discussed. They barely make sense as sentences in English, but when trying to read them as a response to the things you say you are responding to they make NO sense at all.

 

[ZapNano]

Ok, I stand corrected. Your reading comprehension is as much to blame for your incoherent writing. I now see that you have not read and/or understood much if any of this which is why your responses are quite frankly not relevant to anything being discussed. They barely make sense as sentences in English, but when trying to read them as a response to the things you say you are responding to they make NO sense at all.

Only in your version, other things does not make sense...

 

[SiteMachine]

ok