New expiration,grace plan

[Page Howe]

from the icann site


As this timeline demonstrates, when the domain “expires” a year after being registered, it is automatically renewed by the registry. At this point it enters the Auto-renew Grace Period, during which the registrar can delete the name and receive a full credit for the cost of the renewal. By the end of the Auto-renew Grace Period, if the domain name has not been renewed by the registrant, the registrar must submit a deletion request for the name. At that point, domain will enter the Redemption Grace Period, in which it may be restored if the deletion request has been made in error. Only at the end of the Redemption Grace Period is the domain name permanently removed from the registry database and made a part of the pool of available names. (The Redemption Grace Period does not apply to names deleted within the Add Grace Period, which extends through the first five days after the domain’s initial registration.)



this new plan seem to give:

1) Verisign more revenue becuase names are automatically considered renewed, then if they are canceled after that time, verisign gives back a credit. this seem to "puff" up their numbers

2) it seem the registrar can "spec" a name by possibly renewing it during the grace period.

Icann is going to meet on these issues in two weeks, can anyboy else decipher this mess.


furthermore:

5) Danny Younger argues that Recommendation 3.1.2 is seriously flawed , as it allows a registrar discretion as to when a domain name may be deleted within the forty-five days following its expiration. He proposes a uniform policy whereby domain names are deleted only on the 45th day following expiration.







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[JMJ]

Sounds like more work for the registrar and more money into Verisigns pocket to me. Hell you can't get a domain away from verisign how in the hell do they figure anyone will get a refund from them?

In addition whats to keep the registrar from keeping that domain for themselves since they paid for it?

 

[darksk8er]

THAT'S REALLY RETARDED!!!

I hate verisign more everyday.

 

[JMJ]

The more I think about this the more it makes me want to start up a petition on this issue. Lets say you pay that $6 or more if you're a reseller (because the sh*t will roll downhill) then you have to wait 45 days and lets say two weeks to get a refund. All during that time you are short that money for operating expenses and Verisign is earning interest off of that dough.

 

[pelican]

The grace period is so long.
Then those expired domain must have loses alot of traffic. By the time it releases, traffic might have gone down by 80%

 

[doubledee999]

its just that verisign will suck all the good expired traffic during this time, if sitefinder works out for them....

 

[armstrong]

I don't get it. Is there something new in this policy? I understood this to have been in place for quite a while now.

Lets say you pay that $6 or more if you're a reseller (because the sh*t will roll downhill) then you have to wait 45 days and lets say two weeks to get a refund. All during that time you are short that money for operating expenses and Verisign is earning interest off of that dough.

Does it really work this way? I have an enom reseller account, and when I let one of my domain names expire (and go into grace period), I don't see my funds being decreased.

How about other registrars - do they charge resellers for domains auto-renewed as they go to grace period?