legal Net Neutrality Has Been Repealed!

[DaveX]

I just read that...

F.C.C. Repeals Net Neutrality Rules
WASHINGTON — The Federal Communications Commission voted on Thursday to dismantle rules regulating the businesses that connect consumers to the internet, granting broadband companies the power to potentially reshape Americans’ online experiences.

The agency scrapped the so-called net neutrality regulations that prohibited broadband providers from blocking websites or charging for higher-quality service or certain content. The federal government will also no longer regulate high-speed internet delivery as if it were a utility, like phone service.

Full Story: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/14/technology/net-neutrality-repeal-vote.html

How will this change things?

 

[mr-x]

ISP's are under jurisdiction of the FTC and DOJ. If you think they are toothless, talk to Bill Gates the former CEO of Microsoft.

 

[mr-x]

80% of americans are for net neutrality but they get rid of it anyways. What does that say? Screw the people! With any luck Americans will abort the Trump nightmare and if appeals don't work it will change when someone who works for the people, not corporations gets appointed.

It says our current leadership would rather have a free market with innovation than a centralized bureaucracy telling people what they can and can't do on the Internet.

Phone service providers were not covered by "net neutrality" and their is more competition, better service and prices are getting lower.

Federal Trade Commission still enforces the law for ISP just like phone companies.

 

[HotKey]

Total bs. This will eventually make the Internet suck. All traffic will be tolled. All sites will be in perpetual nanny-state, subject to anyone's complaint. Like the political-correctness fervor taking over.

If it is no longer regulated, to whom will the ISPs be accountable? Who to turn to if they screw up on a decision?

 

[E-Promote]

It says our current leadership would rather have a free market with innovation than a centralized bureaucracy telling people what they can and can't do on the Internet.

Phone service providers were not covered by "net neutrality" and their is more competition, better service and prices are getting lower.

Federal Trade Commission still enforces the law for ISP just like phone companies.

May your sites be slowed and your intelligence quickened.

 

[anantj]

I think this will essentially force companies like Apple or Facebook to start offering their own internet to try and maintain control...Instead of paying Comcast or Verizon to access Facebook, people will start paying Facebook to access the internet.

Just uneducated speculation of course...

Facebook already tried to launch a service that goes against net neutrality (Facebook Free Basics). In India, they were banned from launching the service after massive protests and subsequent regulation by the regulatory authority here. A majority of the large corps pretty much only pay lip service to Net Neutrality commitment to avoid negative PR. They'll all jump at the chance to take advantage of fast lanes (cos they pretty much can afford to do so).

 

[Dondomainer]

I think this is what we should expect if the new policies of internet providers are negative :

1. Fall of new companies with presence in the network.
2. Increase of sellers in Amazon and other sales platforms
3. Increase of clients for services like wordpress, we can even see new domain extensions for shopify, wix, etc etc that they will have some preferential arrangement with the network providers.
4. Fall of sales of domains to final buyers

I think 2018 -2020 is a year so do not rush into sales, wait for everything to return to normal, then we could see a boom on domain sales and prices.

....I hope I'm wrong

 

[ValleyRock]

LoL, we ain't seen nothing yet.

 

[Michael M]

Silliness guys... Pure ignorance and propaganda.

Net Neutrality only existed for a very short time, and did nothing except for make people think without it the world was going to end and NetFlix was going to be throttled.

You will not notice ANY difference minus Political stunts.

Your internet is fine, and is actually back to its original state - as intented.

The internet was free and neutral before net neutrality, and it is much free-er without it.

Keep screaming that the world is ending - but you know you are mad because of political beliefs and not logical ones... Or maybe you don't at this point.

None-the-less: Enjoy the Internet that the free market made - as you scream for the government to come in and save you from that free market. Sigh.

 

[Dondomainer]

Silliness guys... Pure ignorance and propaganda.

Net Neutrality only existed for a very short time, and did nothing except for make people think without it the world was going to end and NetFlix was going to be throttled.

You will not notice ANY difference minus Political stunts.

Your internet is fine, and is actually back to its original state - as intented.

The internet was free and neutral before net neutrality, and it is much free-er without it.

Keep screaming that the world is ending - but you know you are mad because of political beliefs and not logical ones... Or maybe you don't at this point.

None-the-less: Enjoy the Internet that the free market made - as you scream for the government to come in and save you from that free market. Sigh.

That is ingenuity, and for sure you do not understand how the network works

1. That before it was not done does not mean that it could be done in the future, especially after seeing the huge amount of data that Facebook, Youtube, Google etc etc... takes
2. There is no legal protection to protect the client customer so If nothing can prevent companies from doing it, why they do not want to take profits from the traffic generated for example by Facebook ? - Tell me if you would not do it. if you say no, honestly, you're a very bad businessman.
3. Why and how does the neutrality of the network prevent these companies from developing better? - YOU HAVE NO ANSWER

Health laws exist for the preparation of food, but hey, there is this McDonals using palm oil, which is bad for health, but as there is no legislation that prevents this, McDonals makes more money.

 

[Michael M]

That is ingenuity...
Health laws exist for the preparation of food, but hey, there is this McDonals using palm oil, which is bad for health, but as there is no legislation that prevents this, McDonals makes more money.

And a million other things can be done by someone or a company that could upset you or harm you - but that does not mean 400 pages of a "law" which never passed through congress needs to be enacted.

There are existing laws and litigation to protect you and provide you with a means of protecting yourself. Those avenues should be used first or every single breath you take would be regulated under your logic.

 

[Dondomainer]

And a million other things can be done by someone or a company that could upset you or harm you - but that does not mean 400 pages of a "law" which never passed through congress needs to be enacted.

There are existing laws and litigation to protect you and provide you with a means of protecting yourself. Those avenues should be used first or every single breath you take would be regulated under your logic.

Why and how does the neutrality of the network prevent these companies from developing better? - YOU HAVE NO ANSWER

 

[Michael M]

Why and how does the neutrality of the network prevent these companies from developing better? - YOU HAVE NO ANSWER

Why or how does it help these companies develop better to have it? IT DOESN'T
How did the internet become what it is now without it - and thrive?
How did this "law" actually help you. It didn't. You don't know other than replying "THROTTLING!"

Just because a subject can have a good talking point - does not null that fact that subject may be already covered by other law and is un-needed and has the possibility of hurting an industry...

But I can never win this argument with people who believe everything should be regulated. But I should be allowed to express my view, regardless.

I want to add - if you want this law, we should pass it the right way - through congress.

 

[Dondomainer]

How did this "law" actually help you. It didn't. You don't know other than replying "THROTTLING!"
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It has helped us in exactly this :

It has prevented cable providers from monopolizing traffic and fragmenting the collection of their services to more than the internet, but to what we see.

Just because a subject can have a good talking point - does not null that fact that subject may be already covered by other law and is un-needed and has the possibility of hurting an industry...
.

Then the section in each term of use of all the websites of the network that says something like :

You will not do anything that could damage the integrity of the site

It's a waste of time? - I mean, you are telling a user not to do something, when he has not done it yet

 

[Michael M]

It has helped us in exactly this :

It has prevented cable providers from monopolizing traffic and fragmenting the collection of their services to more than the internet, but to what we see.




Then the section in each term of use of all the websites of the network that says something like :

You will not do anything that could damage the integrity of the site

It's a waste of time? - I mean, you are telling a user not to do something, when he has not done it yet

Food for thought:
Who built the internet pipelines that you want to be neutral?
Should someone/a company who is using all of another company's "pipeline" have that right and pay no more than someone who uses 1/1000000 of that amount?
Why do the big companies that have already solidified their position in the industry support it? (hint: It isn't to help the new startup company)

 

[mr-x]

May your sites be slowed and your intelligence quickened.

Rebel without a cause.

Total bs. This will eventually make the Internet suck. All traffic will be tolled. All sites will be in perpetual nanny-state, subject to anyone's complaint. Like the political-correctness fervor taking over.

If it is no longer regulated, to whom will the ISPs be accountable? Who to turn to if they screw up on a decision?

Who do you complain to now? Large companies like Google, Facebook and Twitter already censor the Internet. If you have a complaint about them, you go to the FTC.

You're imagined drama is what happens when uncountable bureaucrats get to make rules that favor some businesses over others. NN was an advantage for mega-corporations.

 

[Dondomainer]

Why do the big companies that have already solidified their position in the industry support it? (hint: It isn't to help the new startup company)

What are you talking about ?

Who supports Net Neutrality?

Google, Yahoo!, Amazon.com, Earthlink, eBay, Intel, Microsoft, Skype, Vonage

 

[Michael M]

What are you talking about ?

Who supports Net Neutrality?

Google, Yahoo!, Amazon.com, Earthlink, eBay, Intel, Microsoft, Skype, Vonage

Exxxactly!

Yet it is championed to support the small guy. That should seem odd to you, if you were the thinking type...

 

[Dondomainer]

Exxxactly!

Yet it is championed to support the small guy. That should seem odd to you, if you were the thinking type...

Where is it written that in the actual situation ?

 

[HotKey]

Rebel without a cause.



Who do you complain to now? Large companies like Google, Facebook and Twitter already censor the Internet. If you have a complaint about them, you go to the FTC.

You're imagined drama is what happens when uncountable bureaucrats get to make rules that favor some businesses over others. NN was an advantage for mega-corporations.

Sorry, if you think the Google, Twits and Faceplants control the net, then there is no hope. These are not the people you complain to, they are merely huge platforms for enjoying the net.

Imagined?

Hardly. Trust me, ISP's are the last people you want having control.

 

[Dondomainer]

Exxxactly!

Yet it is championed to support the small guy. That should seem odd to you, if you were the thinking type...

However, what you say, is precisely a network without neutrality

- We're fine as long as you're small and do not mess with my interests