NaturalBeauty.com has just sold for 9,999 USD, lost over 55,000 usd

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  1. Sinh

    Sinh Business Member Business Account VIP

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    naturalbeauty.com sold at 9,999 USD on 2017-10-26 at Sedo, the previous owner bought it at Namejet auction at 64,900 usd in 2008. What do you think about this domain? Is it worth more?
     
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  2. Shuttlepro

    Shuttlepro Supportive Member NamePros Supporter

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    Thats no good, but the latest sale might've just been a quick sale for quick cash.
     
  3. DASHCAMCLIPS

    DASHCAMCLIPS Established Member

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    Way more. If I would have been asked to develop it a name like that would have created an income of 9,999 USD in a matter of weeks. Development is for 99% in the name itself, and a name where obviously you can target every woman on this planet with is a dream of every person in my industry.

    Unfortunately most owners of great names are blind and deaf to reason. So whoever owns naturalbeauty.com now: congrats on a great deal!
     
  4. mad409

    mad409 Always thinking outside the box! Business Account VIP

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    Should have been at least a mid five figure sale IMO, not sure what happened.
     
  5. carob

    carob Active Member VIP

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    How would you do that?

    Beauty domain name sales on Namebio show just 10 over 10k, and one of those is beauty.com and another is the previous sale of this same domain. https://namebio.com/?s==kTMycDM4QTM
     
  6. Domainscoop.com

    Domainscoop.com Established Member

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    First: This is not a advertisement post

    Second: Simply putting pages aka development won't bring anything unless there is atleast 50k visitors plus on it , been there and done that.

    Third: even though you have great domain and good development: lot of money goes into creating something unique and taking more risk of advertising your website ------Lot of people don't want to take that risk why? What if they spent 10 k additional and won't make anything back?

    Domain selling/buying without developing ---aka DOMAINING- hence th people trading are domainers


    Also if that was true above you mentioned why have not you already made millions ? Yet?? Since its easy to do as you mention etc .
     
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  7. DASHCAMCLIPS

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    As I said: the message contains a very short summary. Sorry about that, but giving an online lecture on making money and the development of domains would take weeks to write.

    Spending 10k is not the kind of spending meant. It would be around 500 to 1.500 euro plus tax, but that is just about it. In orde to prevent a client from making a loss before we accept any order a all we first look at what we can do. So when I am sure enough ads can be sold prior to a client giving an order the loss is already out the window. But good point, I did not mention it.

    Besides the details however it works as said. Even on a small scale you can do loads of things with domains to have them make money. If you do not believe me: why do you think there are ads on landing-pages?

    The answer is simple: people with an interest see them.

    As soon as you get the deeper meaning in that you can develop anything.

    Sorry about the advertising-thing, I did not realise it when I posted it. By "send me a PM" I meant more like "if you need help or want an opinion send me a message".
     
  8. carob

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    That is an important point because without traffic no monetisation can happen and traffic needs content to attract it, or advertising $, or type-in traffic. And the monetisation needs to be effective.

    There used to be a belief that any good domain would get type-in traffic and any development would make money from that. The Adam Dicker scandal is mostly about him charging a lot for that development - in many cases it seems he did not do the work, but anyway when he did, the huge revenues did not appear. So always check your assumptions in this field.
     
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  9. DASHCAMCLIPS

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  10. Sinh

    Sinh Business Member Business Account VIP

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    Everyone has their own purpose on domain business. It's up to you to figure out what your purpose in this business is. No one can make that decision for you. Like me, I want to make money by flipping domain names only because domains development is not my strong point.
     
  11. kandyan

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    It's a Category killer, easily a Mid 5 - Six fig domain.. Development is the way to go.

    It's not easy but it's not that hard either, if you have some money to sustain the early phase..IMO
     
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  12. kandyan

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    New buyer got a definite bargain imo..
     
  13. EmotiveDomains

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    Yeah that latest buyer got a great deal. I'm surprised it sold for so little.
     
  14. CarlosN

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    You'll need a good amount of traffic to generate $10k income, where the visitors will be coming from?
     
  15. Kate

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    Good name, but it was bought at end user price then resold at reseller price. That's the problem.
     
  16. Domainscoop.com

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    Really stop the non-sense, its ok to have web developing company, and its other thing to rob people off their money by giving them false hopes.

    Yes you can develop for example : Hotel.com , assuming its getting one million visitors a year, you can convert may be 3 percent of that traffic, boom, but that domain will cost you 10 million plus USD. Do you know what you can buy with "10 Million dollars" , I can put you in touch with through website broker, who have several sites for sale for 1 million - 2 million, that are making 200 to 300k per year revenue.


    So please, cut the nonsense, and don't give false hopes to people. Simply putting a site wont do anything, THATS just a BEGINNING. Basically you have to commit so many hours a day on promoting, and advertising to even have the website take off.

    anyhow am out.
     
  17. BaileyUK

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    I keep my eye on the domain sales lists from two sources and this one did really did catch my eye, Summed-up nicely by Kate . The buyer definitely has a safe investment in their hands.
     
  18. wwwweb

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    If it was a 5-6 figure domain, it would not have sold for $10K.

    People often say this after the sale, talk to the owner of years, and the lowball offers etc... sometimes you have to hold it, to know it.

    I question some of those 2008 sales, sometimes they never change hands.
     
  19. Domainscoop.com

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    Let me tell you, stop assuming "may be domainers dont want to do this or that in development" - i am a domainer, and I have made close to 100k from google adsense/affiliates from sites.

    And now i spent 800 $ on a domain recently and put in 15K on the development on that 800 $ domain which I am launching next week. Now go figure, now you can see the proportion of development cost to domain in this case.

    Not every single case is same, and i just dont like false advertising, where people dream big because someone said we can help you make millions etc, and we will manage this or that.

    All the best - but just dont get someone hopes when you know these may not take off - if it would have taken off - my friend you would not be here posting on forums - you would be in somewhere in caribbean taking vacations.
     
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  20. john888

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    Killer magazine name. On a magazine rack this says pick me up for a woman. With the growth of natural health and natural beauty products this domain name has a lot of potential.
     
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    shameless self promotion
     
  22. MrOriginal

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    While a great name definitely delivers an initial message, there is no way to say that the name would make the site, especially this point: "...a name like that would have created an income of 9,999 USD in a matter of weeks.".

    The site won't make any money without good content, proper marketing, etc.
     
  23. Jahe

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    The buyer held the domain for nearly 10 years, after investing $65K. Likely, they bought it and thought the domain was a liquid asset/easy flip; this would have been right at the beginning of the Great Recession 2008-2010. So, maybe they invested all they had at that time in the domain; maybe lost a job or saw some sort of loss of income. Personally, I'd have never paid $65K for a two word domain of that nature without direct commercial meaning. So, this was probably not a seasoned domainer either.

    I've seen Esitbot valued $1 million+ generic domains sold for $35K-$50k on Namejet auctions in the two years I have been speculating. This domain speculator probably thought they would get the domain, send off an email to Maybeline, and they would offer $250K or more. It didn't happen, and they were debt heavy and cash low and sold at a firesale rate or had simply contact every likely end user since 2008 and received $5k-$10k offer. Domain speculation is a easy way to get rich or go broke very quickly.

    I'd bet the 2008 registrant took most or all of their bankroll and bought that domain in 2008.
     
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  24. SpareDomains

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  25. carob

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    A lot of sites do actually have naturalbeauty in the domain - try searching this: inurl:naturalbeauty
    You find stuff like naturalbeautyslimming.com and even hyphenated combos like organic- and -salon, and then cc stuff like .de and .ch

    But none of those sites look like they have had a lot of investment - possibly for big players this is a subcategory.
     

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