.tv My regged .tv name will be revoked without any reason! Help!!!

[fleaking]

I just got this email from Verisign...........

Dear Lin,

Please be advised that your registration to the domain name Pets.tv has been revoked because the domain name was not available for registration. Your registration fee will be refunded. We regret any inconvenience this may cause.

Best Regards,

Customer Service
VeriSign, Inc
www.verisign.com
1 703.925.6999
1 703.421.5828 Fax

I almost fainted when I received this email because I spent almost all of my savings to buy it for my website plan.
Honestly the domain name pets.tv is a standard reg fee one, that's why I bought it from the former owner, I think most of you know that there are still lots of good domains that were not premium priced and were registered by people at standard reg fees, pets.tv is just one of them but it is maybe the TOP one...........

can anyone tell me what I should do right now??
I am still shaking with anger but I don't know what I can do right now......

I need your Help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am about to suicide due to lossing of this domain name.............

 

[dndriver]

I think such thing will not happen again. as a leading company, verysign will definetely give the name back, such a domain name do not worth a negative to his reputation. such thing must be done by one of its crazy stuff.

Fleaking, you can try to contact the ceo of verisign, the ceo of demand media, you can file a dispute at enom and you can call lawyer berryhill to help me, you can contact icaan..... i think it is easy to win...

So should we start to worry about our .tv names all the time if someday they would disappear from my account just because some big guy wants it?

 

[equity78]

and the domain was not cancelled another problem this happened in the first 30 days of reg

THE SMALL PRINT no one reads but agrees too when they REG a domain

SERVICE(S) PROVIDED AT WILL AND TERMINATION OF SERVICE(S): We and your Primary Service Provider may reject your domain name registration application or elect to discontinue providing Service(s) to you for any reason within 30 days of a Service initiation or a Service renewal. Outside of this period, we and your Primary Service Provider may terminate or suspend the Service(s) at any time for cause, which, without limitation, includes registration of prohibited domain name(s), abuse of the Services, payment irregularities, serious allegations of illegal conduct, or if your use of the Services involves us in a violation of any Internet Service Provider's ("ISP's") acceptable use policies, including the transmission of unsolicited bulk email. You agree that if we terminate or suspend the Services provided to you under this Agreement, that we may then, at our option, make either ourselves or a third party the beneficiary of Services which are substantially similar to those which were previously providing to you and that any reference in this Agreement to termination or suspension of the Services to you includes this option. If we have grounds to terminate or suspend Service(s) with respect to one domain name or in relation to other Service(s) provided through your account, we may terminate or suspend all Service(s) provided through your account, including Service(s) to other domain names. No fee refund will be made when there is a suspension or termination of Service(s) for cause. At any time and for any reason, we may terminate the Services 30 days after we send notice of termination via mail or email, at our option, to the WHOIS contact information provided in association with your domain name registration. Following notice of termination other than for cause, you must transfer your domain name or risk that we may delete your domain name or suspend or modify Services to it. If we terminate Services for a reason other than cause, we will attempt to refund your fees. You further acknowledge and agree that your registration of a domain name is subject to suspension, cancellation or transfer by any ICANN procedure, by any registrar or registry administrator procedures approved by an ICANN-adopted policy, to correct mistakes by us, another registrar or the registry administrator in administering the domain name or for the resolution of disputes concerning the domain name.

This Is Far From An Easy Win

 

[Carlton]

When I perform a whois search at enom.tv, it lists Fangken Lin as the registrant of Pets.tv. May want to grab a screen capture.

 

[equity78]

Carlton they know the whois shows that when I spoke to Verisign they were well aware. THe key is the 30 Days when I regged LCD.tv for regualr fee that's what John Berryhill told me I had to have pass 30 days. Because for ANY reason they can cancel and everyone agrees to those Terms and conditions the reg does not go through without it

 

[dndriver]

I also suggest you post a thead again at DNF. There many many domainer will back you!

Unbelievable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My domain name has been sold by VeriSign to PetsTV.com and they changed the ownership right away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What the fXXk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
what a christmas gift for me!!!!!!!!!!!

who can help me to get my domain name back

 

[equity78]

Fleaking you need to contact John Berryhill who will very quickly give you an answer to what your options are. I believe they are not good because this happened in the first 30 days and no one needs to be a rocket scientist to understand:

SERVICE(S) PROVIDED AT WILL AND TERMINATION OF SERVICE(S): We and your Primary Service Provider may reject your domain name registration application or elect to discontinue providing Service(s) to you for any reason within 30 days of a Service initiation or a Service renewal.

 

[equity78]

ALWAYS HAS BEEN THAT WAY every registrar has same policy for every domain whatever ext nothing new

 

[lambda]

Fleaking you need to contact John Berryhill who will very quickly give you an answer to what your options are. I believe they are not good because this happened in the first 30 days and no one needs to be a rocket scientist to understand:

SERVICE(S) PROVIDED AT WILL AND TERMINATION OF SERVICE(S): We and your Primary Service Provider may reject your domain name registration application or elect to discontinue providing Service(s) to you for any reason within 30 days of a Service initiation or a Service renewal.

"within 30 days of Service renewal..."

Sorry, but what does that mean !?

 

[equity78]

Whether it was a new reg or a renewal

Meaning if you renewed a domain after a year the first 30 days of that New year they could reject and refund for any reason

 

[lambda]

Whether it was a new reg or a renewal

Meaning if you renewed a domain after a year the first 30 days of that New year they could reject and refund for any reason

Unfortunately, I think you're not kidding.
Do you really understand what it means?

 

[equity78]

That's what it means

This is not rocket science standard verbage in any agreement Terms and Conditions just because 99% of all domainers don't read them means nothing

 

[lambda]

And it is the same for any extension?

Can you please provide a link to the .com version (if available)?

Thanks.

 

[equity78]

That was not a link to anyone extension Dream each registrar does it differently that was enoms just by logging in you agree to that. Godaddy tells you to check the UNiversal Service Agreement they all do it differently but they all have it it is not EXTENSION specific.

Sharp you are 100 % right weird for renewals and probaly never comes up it is there to cover the REGISTRARS ( ! )

and lets be clear this was a fresh reg by a registrant who sold to Fleaking in the first 30 days and Fleaking you are a member here thee Place for .tv and I am rooting for you I have been working on this for you since 6 pm eastern yesterday and have not been to bed yet but I am not going to mislead you most likely they can do this because of the terms of registration. BUT I would speak to John BerryHill pm him here ask his advice.

 

[johntv]

elect to discontinue providing Service(s) to you for any reason within 30 days of a Service initiation or a Service renewal.

Fleaking, I wish you good luck, but according to the contract it will be tough. Although the name is worth it to have it checked by a lawyer. Some time ago I had contacted Ari Goldberger (www.esqwire.com) and he was fast in respons, helpful and I have not seen a bill, you might want to check him out.

Maybe you can contact Verisign and ask for a compensation in form of a different premium domain name.

Versign should understand that, although they might be on the right, it will hurt their reputation to just refund a $20 fee compared to the 'mess up' and confusion with this name.

Being Versign (Enom) it wouldn't hurt to show you some decent compensation in form of, for example, a nice premium domain name. If they solve this problem nicely, they can do some damage control on their side.

BTW, one thing is bothering me in this contract, it's the last 4 words:

"or a Service renewal"

This looks like that after renewing a name, they can terminate the contract and take the name away within 30 days after the renewal is paid.

As lot of people here (including me) have nice names with major discounts.

 

[equity78]

Right Johntv Ari or John berryhill email [email protected] Fleaking he has not been on NP for over a month

Johntv Verisign did not transact business with Fleaking on this domain the original registrant did Fleaking needs to get back from them whatever he paid

 

[Zilla]

the 30-days risk is really confuse, is that means even google may lose google.com if the verisign want keep it? internet need a revolution..

 

[lambda]

This is an extract of Go Daddy's Software Universal Terms of Service:

Go Daddy reserves the right to terminate Services if Your usage of the Services results in, or is the subject of, legal action or threatened legal action, against Go Daddy or any of its affiliates or partners, without consideration for whether such legal action or threatened legal action is eventually determined to be with or without merit. Go Daddy may review every account for excessive space and bandwidth utilization and to terminate or apply additional fees to those accounts that exceed allowed levels.

Except as set forth below, Go Daddy may also cancel Your use of the Services, after thirty (30) days, if You are using the Services, as determined by Go Daddy in its sole discretion, in association with spam or morally objectionable activities. Morally objectionable activities will include, but not be limited to: activities designed to defame, embarrass, harm, abuse, threaten, slander or harass third parties; activities prohibited by the laws of the United States and/or foreign territories in which You conduct business; activities designed to encourage unlawful behavior by others, such as hate crimes, terrorism and child pornography; activities that are tortuous, vulgar, obscene, invasive of the privacy of a third party, racially, ethnically, or otherwise objectionable; activities designed to impersonate the identity of a third party; illegal access to other computers or networks (i.e., hacking); distribution of Internet viruses or similar destructive activities; and activities designed to harm or use unethically minors in any way.

O.K., The services maybe include 'renew services", but they mention reasons for the termination...

It is quite different from Enom's "for any reason"

 

[equity78]

NO DREAM not true

http://www.godaddy.com/gdshop/legal_agreements/show_doc.asp?se=+&pageid=REG_SA THis is th edomain registration agreement not Universal

You agree that Go Daddy, in its sole discretion and without liability to You, may refuse to accept the registration of any domain name. Go Daddy also may in its sole discretion and without liability to You delete the registration of any domain name during the first thirty (30) days after registration has taken place.sole discretion is just like any

If after 30 days there is a reason
Go Daddy may also cancel the registration of a domain name, after thirty (30) days, if that name is being used, as determined by Go Daddy in its sole discretion, in association with spam or morally objectionable activities. Morally objectionable activities will include, but not be limited to: activities designed to defame, embarrass, harm, abuse, threaten, slander or harass third parties; activities prohibited by the laws of the United States and/or foreign territories in which You conduct business; activities designed to encourage unlawful behavior by others, such as hate crimes, terrorism and child pornography; activities that are tortious, vulgar, obscene, invasive of the privacy of a third party, racially, ethnically, or otherwise objectionable; activities designed to impersonate the identity of a third party; and activities designed to harm or use unethically minors in any way. In the event Go Daddy refuses a registration or deletes an existing registration during the first thirty (30) days after registration, You will receive a refund of any fees paid to Go Daddy in connection with the registration either being canceled or refused. In the event Go Daddy deletes the registration of a domain name being used in association with spam or morally objectionable activities, no refund will be issued.

 

[equity78]

Right not everyone has a renewal clause and that is irrelevant for this conversation PETS.tv was a new reg

 

[lambda]

I agree with you for the registration, and yes, this post is about a name registered less than 30 days ago, but sorry for that, i was focused on the renew-thing only.

If necessary, I will create a specific subject about these damn renewal policies

Fleaking, I wish you good luck, and Equity, Thank you for your assistance to our .TV community.

Pascal