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hi. this may sound like a stupid question, but i would appreciate it if someone could shed some light. my question is: let's say you want to make a website with a strong keyword name, like "car forum" just as an example. and lets say carforum.com is taken, but everything else is available. is it a good decision to purchase carforum.net as the main site, and also purchase a few other carforum and automotiveforum and link them to the main site, carforum.net? no forwarding them, but rather a one page page with descriptive intro and a link to the main forum. the purpose of this is to make your main site have high ranking in serach engine, because we're talking about competative keywords. but is this good seo? could you get penalized, for being the owner of all these domain names and instead of forwarding them to your main site, creating separate sites with links to your site, in order to have high page rank?

thank you.
 
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To answer your first question, I would try to get as unique of a website as possible. This means if I am going to develop a site and I think there is going to be any confusion over people typing in the domain name, I will try to get as many extensions of that domain as possible. That being said, it is sometimes impossible to do this. Generally, your best rule of thumb is to develop a .com. If the .com is already taken and you develop the .net or .org, chances are you will be losing a fair amount of traffic to the .com domain.

I find it best to forward domain traffic on. I have a few domains that I forward onto one of my developed websites right now. I am unsure about how google and the other search engines deal with some of these things, but I am nearly 100% sure you can't get in trouble just for forwarding one domains traffic to your developed website.
 
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fonzie_007 said:
Generally, your best rule of thumb is to develop a .com. If the .com is already taken and you develop the .net or .org, chances are you will be losing a fair amount of traffic to the .com domain.

Is that because Google ranks .com higher in their search? Or does Google not care about that?

Thank you.
 
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abt123 said:
Is that because Google ranks .com higher in their search? Or does Google not care about that?

Thank you.
Always go .com if you can because surfers almost always go for that when they type in web addresses.
 
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sorry for the stupid question. i did some reserach and it seems google doesn't prefer .com over .net.

but what if you own .ws site. will google not give you much weight in searches becaue it is a country TLD rather than a generic TLD?

Thank you.
 
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from what ive seen google definately prefers .com over .net
 
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oceanworld said:
Always go .com if you can because surfers almost always go for that when they type in web addresses.

i agree. .com is more attractive, and also sometimes people might forget and type in .com instead of .net, because they are more used to that. if i were to develop a .net i would make sure the logo emphasisez the .net part.

Amnezia said:
from what ive seen google definately prefers .com over .net

i don't know. from what i have heard by other people, google doesn't prefer .com over .net by design, though i'm sure more .com's naturally come up in searches.
 
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All things considered, I think the most important thing to remember is what fonzie said about traffic loss. Any development that you do on an extension other than .com will lose some traffic to the .com (unless you're in another country where the ccTLD of your country is heavily used).

If you're developing, doing SEO, and possibly advertising, I would not settle for a .net or other extension just because I like the domain name. In my opinion, you'd be much better off going with an alternate name that's a .com.

Just my thoughts :)
 
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Regarding forwarding domains from one to the other for search engine optimization - maybe if you are doing it properly (I don't know how personally). Apparently there is a risk of search engine spamming - have a look at this interview on Moniker radio transcript.

(Sorry for the long post - you can look up the entire transcript here:
10 Tips for Driving Traffic to Your Web Site & Chat with David Warmuz, Trellian This is a transcript of the WebMaster radio hosted by Monte Cahn of Moniker.com

http://www.moniker.com/domain-masters/ep-2004-12-22/index.jsp

What follows is a cut and paste of a part of the Transcript


"David: Number 2, and depending on what type of a product or solution youโ€™re trying to offer on your site, you need to make sure you do your keyword research, that youโ€™re targeting the right type of individuals to your web site. You need to understand your own market, you need to do a fair bit of research, and do some keyword research, and integrate those particular keywords into your page content. Thatโ€™s also fairly important in terms of generating search engine traffic thatโ€™s targeted rather than just getting traffic that, you may get exposure, but it doesnโ€™t actually generate sales or leads. Then you need to be a little bit more targeted in your efforts. These days, itโ€™s very competitive, so you need to make sure that you are doing your research correctly. The next thing is to make sure youโ€™re actually listed in the search engines. Thereโ€™s no point having a fantastic site that is search engine friendly but no one links to it or you havenโ€™t actually performed any search engine submissions. So you need to make sure that you are out there, you actually spread your word, you promote it, you promote yourself, you ask complimentary sites to actually link back to your site. Thereโ€™s a little bit of work involved, but there are a lot of great tools and also minimally priced tools out there that can actually help you with all of these areas.

Monte: Right. And just a reminder from some of the things that we covered in last weekโ€™s show, itโ€™s very, very important to make sure that you cover your brands and your identities and various extensions to make sure that you cover the misspellings of your domain names as well. If you do not get your domain names in various extensions, someone else will; and if you become successful on the internet, a lot of people are going to be going to the other sites, especially if you have hard names to spell. You want to cover your misspellings, your various extensions, make sure you cover the .biz, .info, .net, .org, .com. If you do business internationally, make sure you cover country codes and the various misspellings and hyphenated names within that. Thereโ€™s some, I guess, misnomers out there. David, do you have any kind of knowledge about, a lot of people ask, what if I put a dash in between. Letโ€™s say I have a two-word domain name and I put a dash in between the first and second word. Does that in search engine optimization for a web site, or is it a domain name that one would feel would be worth registering in your opinion?

David: Honestly, we actually recommend to our clients to avoid dashes or hyphens in domain names. Thereโ€™s two trains of thought on this. One, it can help a little bit in your search engine rankings for the particular terms that you identify within the domain.

Monte: Because the dash is a space right?

David: However, if youโ€™re looking at branding and youโ€™re trying to create a domain that is easy to remember, saying something hyphen something when youโ€™re spelling it out or if your customers know you by your name, they will not type in a hyphen between the two keywords. So, if somebody is trying to get to your site and they type in your domain name company, well if you hyphen the domain and the name part, they wonโ€™t type domain-name.com theyโ€™ll just type domainname.com.

Monte: Right. So, really a good strategy might be to make sure that you have the word without the hyphen by have the hyphenated name as a backup for search engines.

David: As a backup. Yes.

Monte: And that way the search engines recognize the hyphen as a space.

David: The catch with that is with that is you also need to be very careful you donโ€™t go down the search engine spam route; because having the same domain or the same content on the same site, say if you have your domain with the hyphen part, if that has identical content as that without the hyphen, some search engines will just take that as search engine spam. So you need to just make sure that your site either redirects or 301 redirects to your main page, etc.

Monte: Can you go in a little bit about how you 301 redirect? A lot of people ask that question and perhaps you can give a little bit of insight on how one goes about that on their web site.

David: Well, that should be fairly easy for most web masters or system admin. as individuals who can actually just type in the actual 301 redirect on any page or any domain. It can be page specific.

Monte: Okay.

David: 301 redirect means its basically a page or a content that being moved permanently to a new location. What this does, it gives a signal to the search engine that, yes I have indexed this page in the past, Iโ€™ve now visited and itโ€™s telling me that this page has been moved to somewhere else. So I no longer need to visit this page again, and I just to straight to the new page.

Monte: Now what about the philosophy of registering keywords as domain names for the same purposes of driving traffic to oneโ€™s web site. Many people feel thatโ€™s a good strategy and some people feel that itโ€™s not. Whatโ€™s your take on that and what are you telling your clients in that relation?

David: What do you mean register keywords? In pay-per-click campaigns or as terms of domains?

Monte: In terms of domains.

David: Well, if the keywords connect should generate good traffic, again itโ€™s probably worthwhile having if itโ€™s product specific to your companyโ€™s solutions or products that your offering. We probably, in our case, I believe weโ€™ve registered just about every product name that we own and offer directly. So, we perceive that if you are being branded under a particular product and consumers out there will recognize you under that product name or keyword name, then theyโ€™re more likely to type that into a domain or search for you by that. By having actually that domain name, that you then redirect to your main web site, youโ€™re basically covering your bases.

Monte: Right. Thatโ€™s a very good strategy. So, you know a couple of things that weโ€™ve picked up here are the dash in between your domain names, if you have a 2- or 3-word domain name, is important probably only for search engine relevance, but you want to definitely focus in on registering your domain name as the single word as if it was one word combined.

David: I would definitely recommend that for all of our clients to do that.
 
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