Mr. President awarded 2009 Nobel Peace Prize

[krishmk]

Check this:
Obama awarded 2009 Nobel Peace Prize - CNN.com

President Barack Obama wins 2009 Nobel Peace Prize for his "extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples."

The Nobel recipient receives a prize of about $1.4 million

 

[-REECE-]

No disrespect intended towards Obama, however I think it's a bit ridiculous to be awarding him a Nobel Peace Prize at this time, especially when considering when his nomination was made... Looking at same of the past winners, Obama really doesn't stand out in my mind as deserving.

 

[biggie]

No disrespect intended towards Obama, however I think it's a bit ridiculous to be awarding him a Nobel Peace Prize at this time, especially when considering when his nomination was made... Looking at same of the past winners, Obama really doesn't stand out in my mind as deserving.

who would be a better choice in your opinion?

i don't mean you any disrespect, but maybe you're not looking at the big picture

this president doesn't describe parts of the world as "the axis of evil"
this president doesn't have the "either you're with us or against us' mentality
this president even tries to include republicans in decision making
this president is hesitant about rushing more troops here and their
this president has changed the way the world views the USA
the election of this president has shown the world that the USA is ready at least, to accept or consider change
this man, who has the charisma, education, and communication skills to "hopefully", bring the world together in peace thru inclusion, rather than exclusion

is a prime candidate.... imo

 

[RogueWriter]

this president doesn't describe parts of the world as "the axis of evil"

No, on the contrary, he thinks that evil dictators will suddenly play nice if he appeases them.

this president doesn't have the "either you're with us or against us' mentality

Mr. Bush's reference was, in essence saying, "Either you think it is okay to hijack planes and ram it into a country's buildings, or you don't." I never had a problem with that statement, but people who want to excuse the behavior of mass murderers were, apparently, appalled by his gall of actually expecting world leaders to choose a side. What was your specific issue with that?

this president even tries to include republicans in decision making

Ummm, no, I believe his comment was, "I won", when republicans expressed concern about the amount of spending. Obama to GOP: 'I won' - Jonathan Martin and Carol E. Lee - Politico.com

this president is hesitant about rushing more troops here and their

Here and there? Well, let's see, we atacked Afghanistan, where the terrorists that killed 3,000 people were being protected by the government, and we attacked Iraq, after receiving intelligence reports that Saddam Hussein, a man who had already gassed entire villages of his own people, and murdered 300,000 of his own citizens, had and was willing to use WMDs.

this president has changed the way the world views the USA

No, only how they view the current sitting President. If you are an American citizen, go for a walk along the Iranian border and see how long you last.

the election of this president has shown the world that the USA is ready at least, to accept or consider change

No, it showed that the Republicans put up an inadequate candidate, that we were willing to elect an inexperienced left wing liberal, for the simple reason that he was not George Bush, even though George Bush was not, actually, running against him.

this man, who has the charisma, education, and communication skills to "hopefully", bring the world together in peace thru inclusion, rather than exclusion

Is nominally skilled as a presenter, as long as he has a teleprompter to tell him what to say.

If you look at past Presidents and former Vice Presidents that received this award, you get an idea of the political leanings that the award givers maintain.

 

[hawkeye]

^ Your 'location', explains your answers. Eyes wide closed.

 

[RogueWriter]

As does your, lol. Oh, the other thing that would explain my answers is that I stick to facts.

 

[hawkeye]

^ Touche.

 

[namenut]

These are great achievements? By your standard he should win the BUSH BASH award as most dems should ....

who would be a better choice in your opinion?

i don't mean you any disrespect, but maybe you're not looking at the big picture

this president doesn't describe parts of the world as "the axis of evil"
this president doesn't have the "either you're with us or against us' mentality
this president even tries to include republicans in decision making
this president is hesitant about rushing more troops here and their
this president has changed the way the world views the USA
the election of this president has shown the world that the USA is ready at least, to accept or consider change
this man, who has the charisma, education, and communication skills to "hopefully", bring the world together in peace thru inclusion, rather than exclusion

is a prime candidate.... imo

LOL

Tell me one thing that exemplifies your comment. What has he done?
When has he included the Republicans? What are his achievements?
Please do share with us "this mans" great achievements.

this president even tries to include republicans in decision making
Are you serious .....?

this president has changed the way the world views the USA
.... ?


NN

 

[Greg]

Congratulations to Obama for receiving the Noble Peace Prize. Perhaps in the future he can look back at his 4 years in office and truthfully say he accomplished something.

 

[hawkeye]

Congratulations to Obama for receiving the Noble Peace Prize. Perhaps in the future he can look back at his 4 years in office and truthfully say he accomplished something.

Of course he can. Something Bush can't say he did in 8 years. But then again Bush and Cheney did start 2 wars they couldn't finish, so I guess they should be proud of those 'accomplishments'. Well at least their 'desperate' supporters are proud of them. (Then, they aren't the ones who sent their children to war.)

 

[namenut]

Of course he can. Something Bush can't say he did in 8 years. But then again Bush and Cheney did start 2 wars they couldn't finish, so I guess they should be proud of those 'accomplishments'. Well at least their 'desperate' supporters are proud of them. (Then, they aren't the ones who sent their children to war.)

Right ... Bush and Chaney again ...... Do you know how the process works?
Do you understand that Bush and Chaney can't just "start wars" lol...

 

[Greg]

Of course he can. Something Bush can't say he did in 8 years. But then again Bush and Cheney did start 2 wars they couldn't finish, so I guess they should be proud of those 'accomplishments'. Well at least their 'desperate' supporters are proud of them. (Then, they aren't the ones who sent their children to war.)

As for Afghanistan, Obama has stated that it is critical to finish the job and for this I agree with him. My oldest son is in ROTC in High School and we have had many conversations regarding the horrors of war but if that is the route that he wants to go then the best thing that I can do is support him and our troops. That is something that Americans seem to have difficulty doing. Even if they don't believe in the war they should support the soldiers.

 

[hawkeye]

Right ... Bush and Chaney again ...... Do you know how the process works?
Do you understand that Bush and Chaney can't just "start wars" lol...

Yeah, I know taking and admitting responsibilities for one's actions, is a 'process' for some. But let me ask you, 'who' made the decisions to attack Afghanistan, then dropped that ball, and went and attacked IRAQ?? 'Who' are the ones that said the IRAQ war would only cost $50 billion at the most (now at a trillion), and be over in a 'few' years. Because if it wasn't Bush and Cheney (correct spelling), we need to know 'who' to commend for those 'great' decisions and not be blaming the wrong ones? The real question for you is, "Do you understand how the 'process' works?" For someone has to make the decision to do so, and I believe that decision to attack/invade/abandon the noted wars, lied with, and was made by, the afore mentioned.

 

[RogueWriter]

Of course he can. Something Bush can't say he did in 8 years. But then again Bush and Cheney did start 2 wars they couldn't finish, so I guess they should be proud of those 'accomplishments'. Well at least their 'desperate' supporters are proud of them. (Then, they aren't the ones who sent their children to war.)

Hmmm, why is it when Liberals try to defend an indefensible position, they go back to insulting George Bush?


I think the war in Iraq is winding down fairly well, with a nominal democracy having been introduced. The results of that won't really be visible for twenty or thirty years, imo. If it takes root, then it changes the middle east in a fundamental, positive manner. Plus, not having Saddam's kids alive to rape and pillage their citizens for an entire generation is a good thing.

Oh, and since a majority of the military is Republican in nature, I would suggest that, yes, those that defend George Bush or Cheney still, probably did or do have loved ones overseas.

But let's get back to the original accomplishments so far of Barack Obama. All I've got is this:

+ Hired more tax cheats than any other President.
+ Committed the United States to spending more money than all other Presidents combined.
+ Increased Worldwide Teleprompter Sales by an astounding 80%.
+ Increased residential Arms and Ammunition sales by 300%
+ Has taken over more independant, free market businesses than any other President.
+ Is attempting to nationalize 1/6th of the U.S. economy.
+ Failed brilliantly with his plea to bring the Olympics to Chicago.
+ Complained about earmarks while helping to pass a bill that had several thousand earmarks attached to it.
+ Shook hands with Chavez but ignored the Dalai Lama.


I dunno, that's all I got, what accomplishments do you have, Hawk?

 

[Greg]

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[hawkeye]

As for Afghanistan, Obama has stated that it is critical to finish the job and for this I agree with him. My oldest son is in ROTC in High School and we have had many conversations regarding the horrors of war but if that is the route that he wants to go then the best thing that I can do is support him and our troops. That is something that Americans seem to have difficulty doing. Even if they don't believe in the war they should support the soldiers.

Yeah ok. But I never said, or implied, that I didn't 'support our soldiers/troops'. And yes it is critical to 'finish the job', but why it was dropped and not finished back when it should of/could of, is paramount to why we are still trying to 'finish' it.

 

[Greg]

Hmmm, why is it when Liberals try to defend an indefensible position, they go back to insulting George Bush?


I think the war in Iraq is winding down fairly well, with a nominal democracy having been introduced. The results of that won't really be visible for twenty or thirty years, imo. If it takes root, then it changes the middle east in a fundamental, positive manner. Plus, not having Saddam's kids alive to rape and pillage their citizens for an entire generation is a good thing.

Oh, and since a majority of the military is Republican in nature, I would suggest that, yes, those that defend George Bush or Cheney still, probably did or do have loved ones overseas.

But let's get back to the original accomplishments so far of Barack Obama. All I've got is this:

+ Hired more tax cheats than any other President.
+ Committed the United States to spending more money than all other Presidents combined.
+ Increased Worldwide Teleprompter Sales by an astounding 80%.
+ Increased residential Arms and Ammunition sales by 300%
+ Has taken over more independant, free market businesses than any other President.
+ Is attempting to nationalize 1/6th of the U.S. economy.
+ Failed brilliantly with his plea to bring the Olympics to Chicago.
+ Complained about earmarks while helping to pass a bill that had several thousand earmarks attached to it.
+ Shook hands with Chavez but ignored the Dalai Lama.


I dunno, that's all I got, what accomplishments do you have, Hawk?

Let's not forget that Bush inherited the Osama Bin Laden problem from President Clinton's inability to act: Clinton Let Bin Laden Slip Away and Metastasize I particularly like the last paragraph of that article.

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Yeah ok. But I never said, or implied, that I didn't 'support our soldiers/troops'. And yes it is critical to 'finish the job', but why it was dropped and not finished back when it should of/could of, is paramount to why we are still trying to 'finish' it.

I am sorry if I in any way said or implied that you said that. I certainly respect you and your views. I was talking about the American public (specifically the media).

 

[hawkeye]

Hmmm, why is it when Liberals try to defend an indefensible position, they go back to insulting George Bush?


I think the war in Iraq is winding down fairly well, with a nominal democracy having been introduced. The results of that won't really be visible for twenty or thirty years, imo. If it takes root, then it changes the middle east in a fundamental, positive manner. Plus, not having Saddam's kids alive to rape and pillage their citizens for an entire generation is a good thing.

Oh, and since a majority of the military is Republican in nature, I would suggest that, yes, those that defend George Bush or Cheney still, probably did or do have loved ones overseas.

But let's get back to the original accomplishments so far of Barack Obama. All I've got is this:

+ Hired more tax cheats than any other President.
+ Committed the United States to spending more money than all other Presidents combined.
+ Increased Worldwide Teleprompter Sales by an astounding 80%.
+ Increased residential Arms and Ammunition sales by 300%
+ Has taken over more independant, free market businesses than any other President.
+ Is attempting to nationalize 1/6th of the U.S. economy.
+ Failed brilliantly with his plea to bring the Olympics to Chicago.
+ Complained about earmarks while helping to pass a bill that had several thousand earmarks attached to it.
+ Shook hands with Chavez but ignored the Dalai Lama.


I dunno, that's all I got, what accomplishments do you have, Hawk?

Funny how you make these 'trivial' things as benchmarks for your definition of accomplishments. But if one is only looking at trivial things, or any little nonconsequential negative thing, to base their opinions on, boy the field day one can have on poor GW. Time to stick your head back in the 'far right sand' homey.

And I guess that the same can be said about the right wingers when they 'try' to defend GW's positions.

Let's not forget that Bush inherited the Osama Bin Laden problem from President Clinton's inability to act: Clinton Let Bin Laden Slip Away and Metastasize I particularly like the last paragraph of that article.

Let's not forget on who's watch, we were attacked.

 

[RogueWriter]

Actually, I'm in the middle. I have a lot of issues with George. But, I do not allow the media to determine who to like or not to like, nor what events I should or should not pay attention to.

My apologies if all of those points seem trivial, but like I said, that's all I got on Obama, he has not proven to be a man of substance yet. But by all means, please point out the specific things he has accomplished so far in his tenure that might qualify him for a Peace Prize.

 

[hawkeye]

Actually, I'm in the middle. I have a lot of issues with George. But, I do not allow the media to determine who to like or not to like, nor what events I should or should not pay attention to.

My apologies if all of those points seem trivial, but like I said, that's all I got on Obama, he has not proven to be a man of substance yet. But by all means, please point out the specific things he has accomplished so far in his tenure that might qualify him for a Peace Prize.

No prob. I'm not affected by the media on my opinions, just on the reality of one's actions, and how they materialized to affect the world and our country.

I don't need to point anything out on Obama's 'accomplishments' so far, but one thing is 'for sure', and that is it's way more than GW accomplished in the same time frame. And this can be shown just by the actions of other nations towards America already in the short time he's been prez. So it's not a liberal/conservative thing of 'my pres is better than your pres!'

And I didn't give him the Nobel Peace Prize, so if you have probs with it, I'd take it up with the Swedes or whoever that did, and not cry in some forum criticizing those that had nothing to do with it, and demanding they explain it.