new gtlds Mike Mann: “Read my lips gTLDs are D*E*A*D, absolutely no demand!”

[lennco]

Mike Mann shared on Facebook my article about the bad landrush phase that .Blog domains had last week and also shared his views on the New gTLDs in general:

Read my lips gTLDs are D*E*A*D, absolutely no demand! This was the best out of thousands, along with .web and .app Better luck with other snake oil. .Com stays king. If you also voted for Hillary, rough week. TYVMI.

He also made several other comments about new extensions such as:

How about don’t but them at all, they serve no purpose and cause many problems, and waste a lot of time and money.

Now that everyone knows gTLDs are dead, please Google “Mike Mann gTLDs” and you will see I hit the predictions spot on.

He continued by quoting my article:

Ruggh ruoggh, too many scooby snacks: “So the .blog registry made more than $150,000 from the landrush phase. That doesn’t seem bad but the registry spent $19 million to get rights for the .blog new extension.” Not counting millions per year of overhead. Lesson learned, listen to the mann next time and stick with .Com

He then made more comments like:

“Don't renew your fancy new gtld domains. The experiment is over. No material resale market will take root.”

Mike replied to a comment made by Phil Harris

26 million registered and new sites being launched daily .. X.company being used by Google , Rightside stock just raised to buy status by zachs investment firm .. Awareness growing , secondary 6 figure sales being made , Mike I would say you should watch the movie God is not dead ..

by saying

sure sounds like a bubble

Mike today talked about Google and .soy:

Google spent some energy telling me how ".soy" domain extension was going to be the next big thing a while back, I tried to splain what was up….. Not to discount the fine folks, fancy offices, and great buffet. Googs, gimme a buzz, I’m still a know it all.

Drinking own Koolaid instead of listening to grassroots in the streets

Technically I havent checked the sales numbers but lets take a wild guess, dramatically lower than their expenses…….. like I told them nicely before they invested

Konstantinos Zournas November 14, 2016
http://onlinedomain.com/2016/11/14/...nn-read-lips-gtlds-dead-absolutely-no-demand/

 

[GoKaizen]

Where did you link to .com usage stats? Oh, you didn't.

NtldStats.COM is showing 71% parked, going up each day.

 

[Addison]

Read my lips gTLDs are D*E*A*D, absolutely no demand!

I'll read your fingers instead since your lips are hidden behind a screen.

 

[dordomai]

In these forums it is politics. It's about buy American ".com" and the rest of the world doesn't matter. The arrogance is appalling.
History matters. Business cycles matter and most aren't aware nothing "reigns king" forever.
Coke was once the only choice, now there are several hundred choices of "soda" all doing just fine and consumers accepting many different choices over just one. The Car industry is a better example. "Ford" "the only choice" now there is hundreds of choices and Ford still exists.

.com is not american. It is THE global standard. It is where the Internet is. It is where we are at the moment and where we are most of the time when we are online.

There is no other standard besides ccTLDs in some countries.

Porno.com sold for $9 million to a company in Europe. Z.com sold for $8 million to a Japanese company.

Chinese are buying .com because in their mind it is the first extension and the one that you need if you want to do serious business.

Show me any of these cute nGTLDs that can do that. Some claim .xyz will do that but it is just a weird hyped extension that will be the future spam filter food.

How many .com's are parked, or on sales pages or don't resolve?

I love .com but more than 70% are not in use.

most .com don't resolve as in any other extension. Most .com are not parked however.

Parked often means, owned by speculators. If the majority of an extension is owned by speculators that isn't a healthy sign. It can mean the demand isn't there and you need to get gamblers in, buying on hope to boost reg numbers. If the sales don't happen, speculators give up and the extension collapses.

listen to the mann next time and stick with .Com

 

[Melinda Cohea]

I think Mike Mann as much as he does have crazy skills with getting premium prices for domains that appear not to be superbly valuable, also needs to openly slate nGTLD's ... it's in his best interest to do so. He owns a massive portfolio of .com domains and he needs to make sure people don't start to consider the alternatives. I'm not saying that nGTLD's are worth more than .coms BUT they do offer alternatives and open up a few more options that people didn't have before. Like in the past if ShoesOnline.com/net/org/info was taken then thats it, if you really wanted that name you had to fork out whatever price the people selling it wanted....now you have the option of grabbing shoes.online or shoesonline.shop or whatever..... so Mike Man has to shout out from the rooftops that nGTLD's are useless waste of time and money in order to try and protect his inventory...... from a purely domaining perspective yes the .com does remain king and likely will not change...however from a business perspective (which is what most end users will be looking at) investing $150 000 on shoesonline.com might not be a better move than spending $10 000 on shoes.online - it comes down to return on investment and from a business perspective... $10k on shoes.online and spending the remaining $140k on marketing the business makes way more sense than dropping $150k on the stand alone .com domain,

Also, Google is obviously pro nGTLD's and they making a point of using them... they are pushing for people to become more comfortable with seeing nGTLD's ...now obviously we all know that Big G practically owns the Internet, if they want to promote something then you can sure as well bet it's going to get promoted to a level that would make the Oprah effect look like kindergarten.

Exactly. As a domainer, 90% of my portfolio is dot com BUT had it not been for the the new gTLD boom, I would have
never been able to acquire a good 3-letter domain like owe.tax
I've only been investing in domains for a couple years, and on a waitressing income at that. Of course all the good short dot com's we're taken light years ago... I would have had to have 6 figures to even get involved with any good short domains... So it gave new domainers like me great opportunity. Another good example: SelfPromo.com was taken 14+ Years ago, so I jumped at the opportunity for "self.promo", its shorter anyways. Any two words that go together well, especially when they are a frequently queried search phrase, separated by one simple dot are beautiful web addresses, that are being sold in mid 5-figures currently, so I agree with you, good gTLDs are by no means dead. To the contrary, they are the wave of the future. Dot com's will always be the wave of the future, that goes without saying. But new gTLDs are as well, when purchased carefully.

The possibilities in longer phrases is cool too, if you can find really good ones. While CyberRealEstate.com was taken 13+ years ago, a small town waitress such as myself can find and invest in something even shorter that displays very nicely: CyberReal.estate

While InternetSecuritySystems.com was taken 16+ years ago, I was able to acquire InternetSecurity.systems

I think the bottom line is, whether we're talking about dot com's or "everything else", only buy domains that make sense. Even dot com's are no good if the domain doesn't make sense.

 

[deez007]

Exactly. As a domainer, 90% of my portfolio is dot com BUT had it not been for the the new gTLD boom, I would have
never been able to acquire a good 3-letter domain like owe.tax
I've only been investing in domains for a couple years, and on a waitressing income at that. Of course all the good short dot com's we're taken light years ago... I would have had to have 6 figures to even get involved with any good short domains... So it gave new domainers like me great opportunity. Another good example: SelfPromo.com was taken 14+ Years ago, so I jumped at the opportunity for "self.promo", its shorter anyways. Any two words that go together well, especially when they are a frequently queried search phrase, separated by one simple dot are beautiful web addresses, that are being sold in mid 5-figures currently, so I agree with you, good gTLDs are by no means dead. To the contrary, they are the wave of the future. Dot com's will always be the wave of the future, that goes without saying. But new gTLDs are as well, when purchased carefully.

The possibilities in longer phrases is cool too, if you can find really good ones. While CyberRealEstate.com was taken 13+ years ago, a small town waitress such as myself can find and invest in something even shorter that displays very nicely: CyberReal.estate

While InternetSecuritySystems.com was taken 16+ years ago, I was able to acquire InternetSecurity.systems

I think the bottom line is, whether we're talking about dot com's or "everything else", only buy domains that make sense. Even dot com's are no good if the domain doesn't make sense.

Absolutely!...I think you've nailed it here.

 

[d-e-x]

Hand reg. CasinoLive.online today and already got 2 offers. Is that bad???

 

[lennco]

When they release .supercalifragilisticexpialidocious I have my eye on a few of them,

My.supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
Our.supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
Her.supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
His.supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
Sexy.supercalifragilisticexpialidocious

And of course
supercalifragilisticexpialidocious.supercalifragilisticexpialidocious

Its going to be Super!

 

[168]

.com is not american. It is THE global standard. It is where the Internet is. It is where we are at the moment and where we are most of the time when we are online.

There is no other standard besides ccTLDs in some countries.

Porno.com sold for $9 million to a company in Europe. Z.com sold for $8 million to a Japanese company.

Chinese are buying .com because in their mind it is the first extension and the one that you need if you want to do serious business.

Show me any of these cute nGTLDs that can do that. Some claim .xyz will do that but it is just a weird hyped extension that will be the future spam filter food.



most .com don't resolve as in any other extension. Most .com are not parked however.

Parked often means, owned by speculators. If the majority of an extension is owned by speculators that isn't a healthy sign. It can mean the demand isn't there and you need to get gamblers in, buying on hope to boost reg numbers. If the sales don't happen, speculators give up and the extension collapses.

listen to the mann next time and stick with .Com

dordomai ! Nice to chat with you again !

Outside the USA .com is considered the country code for the USA .US sucks.
The US dollar is the global standard and both are about to change.

the early days of .com was mostly speculators too. It took 15 years before more were used v spec. History matters.
China buyers are buying .com on spec not to put up a website. Most large companies already have the .com/.cn combo.
.Com has lost an ave. of 15% of the start-up and vertical market and that number will double easily.
When the spec bubble pops .com will be the biggest looser simply because it has the highest spec count !
From a business cycle perspective .com is on the downside of the bell curve, margins thinning. .com is not immune to cycles.

I have posted several "cute" New "G"s that well regarded global companies promote that are changing the "Global" perception.
True trend setters, True global "commerce" leaders. Mann is looking out for Mann.

.com will be around forever but as the market grows it's market share will shrink. guaranteed.

You always ignore "relevance". That's what end users are asking for and that is what the New "G"s provide.
.commerce will never be "better" than .club for clubs. .commerce will never be "better" than .media for the media.
.commerce will never be "better" than .graphics for graphics. .commerce will never be "better" than .design for design.
.commerce will never be "better" than .tech or .io for tech. .commerce will never be "better" than .news for news. ETC ETC ETC
THE VERTICALS ARE HUGE. THAT'S WHERE THE GROWTH IS.
FOLLOW THE TRUE GLOBAL LEADERS NOT THE NARCISSISTIC .COMMIES
THE TRUE GLOBAL LEADERS AREN'T BASHING NEW "G"S THEY ARE USING THEM AND THE NUMBERS ARE GROWING.
Happy Hunting,
Cheers!

 

[garptrader]

In many countries .Com is highly recognized and used like the local CCTLD. I have sold .Com domains to buyers in Spain, Colombia, Mexico, Argentina, Puerto Rico, Portugal and Brazil.

 

[dordomai]

I am not from the US and I do know that .com is recognized and used in many countries.

.com is not USA. .com is .com which is the Internet.

nGTLDs are not more relevant. Stockholm.travel will never be worth more than Stockholm.com or VisitStockholm.com or be more relevant.

Youtube.tv will never be more relevant than Youtube.com

Sky.tv or sky.cinema will never be worth more than sky.com

home.loreal will never be better or more relevant than loreal.com

 

[168]

I am not from the US and I do know that .com is recognized and used in many countries.

.com is not USA. .com is .com which is the Internet.

nGTLDs are not more relevant. Stockholm.travel will never be worth more than Stockholm.com or VisitStockholm.com or be more relevant.

Youtube.tv will never be more relevant than Youtube.com

Sky.tv or sky.cinema will never be worth more than sky.com

home.loreal will never be better or more relevant than loreal.com

I noticed wineclub.com is in the NamesCon auction. This will be an interesting test as Wine.Club sold for 140k in the same auction

Also, it may be worth contacting Facebook and ask why they are using Facebook.design instead of Facebookdesign.com
or how about WorldHostingDays,the new owner of NamesCon using WHD.Global instead of WHDglobal.com, PayPal.me instead of Paypalme.com Airbnb.design, Telkom.design , the list is growing. It's not too difficult to see adoption of relevance.
Worth is not the point Relevant end use is. Momentum is growing.
No dis intended but your examples are weak. Youtube is not TV it's video. Sky? Home? is Loreal in the home business?
Happy Hunting!

 

[RU]

I noticed wineclub.com is in the NamesCon auction. This will be an interesting test as Wine.Club sold for 140k in the same auction

Also, it may be worth contacting Facebook and ask why they are using Facebook.design instead of Facebookdesign.com
or how about WorldHostingDays,the new owner of NamesCon using WHD.Global instead of WHDglobal.com, PayPal.me instead of Paypalme.com Airbnb.design, Telkom.design , the list is growing. It's not too difficult to see adoption of relevance.
Worth is not the point Relevant end use is. Momentum is growing.
No dis intended but your examples are weak. Youtube is not TV it's video. Sky? Home? is Loreal in the home business?
Happy Hunting!

Can I give you a hug.

 

[168]

Can I give you a hug.

LOL Follow the True Leaders !

 

[dordomai]

I noticed wineclub.com is in the NamesCon auction. This will be an interesting test as Wine.Club sold for 140k in the same auction

one single sale is not enough data to draw conclusions from....

Also, it may be worth contacting Facebook and ask why they are using Facebook.design instead of Facebookdesign.com
or how about WorldHostingDays,the new owner of NamesCon using WHD.Global instead of WHDglobal.com, PayPal.me instead of Paypalme.com Airbnb.design, Telkom.design , the list is growing. It's not too difficult to see adoption of relevance.
Worth is not the point Relevant end use is. Momentum is growing.
No dis intended but your examples are weak. Youtube is not TV it's video. Sky? Home? is Loreal in the home business?
Happy Hunting!

yes development does happen, problem is 100 times more often the company chooses .com, this does not get reported because it is so common. In the rare case they do develop a nGTLD, we have dozens of articles and threads hyping it. Usage in Alexa top 100k is still slightly above 1% and this hasn't changed much in the past year.

It likely will never change that much because home.brand doesn't work as well as brand.com

Don't get blinded by greed and make conservative assumptions.

 

[Domainhans]

I am Personaly think that in the Future the Domain Market will Change to nTlds.
We see in The Past that all New Things in the Beginning phase are Bad (Cars, Trains, Aircrafts, Smartphones and....)
Its like a new Tesla E-Car its need Time.
We see at Different Companies that nTld is the Future (Google,Apple,Microsoft....)
Interesting is how Google work in the future with Search Query and nTld

 

[Kate]

Wrong assumption. New extensions are not new technology, they work exactly like the 'old' extensions. The only difference is the branding.

 

[dordomai]

Wrong assumption. New extensions are not new technology, they work exactly like the 'old' extensions. The only difference is the branding.

they are no different than .tv, .info, .name, .travel, .co, .xxx that we already had

 

[Domainhans]

Why Google Buy x.company or .xyz ? or spend Big Money for nTld ? They are Idiots ? They have no plan ?
Google are Trendsetter !
Nobody push a Business without a Plan !

 

[Landov]

Read my lips Mike Mann: At all registrars, including GoDaddy and Uniregistry when you search for a name you get only ngtlds.
So all the start-ups which register new names register only ngtlds.
So much for end user demand.

 

[dordomai]

Read my lips Mike Mann: At all registrars, including GoDaddy and Uniregistry when you search for a name you get only ngtlds.
So all the start-ups which register new names register only ngtlds.
So much for end user demand.

according to some sources which have checked the URLs that startups choose, nGTLDs are not popular. If a non .com or non ccTLD is selected it is a "generic" ccTLD like .co, .to, .io etc.

Almost all are either .com or to a lesser extent ccTLDs. nGTLDs are rare as a startup choice.

 

[decode]

@dordomai a much bigger source of registration and growth would be the service and professional related companies and people who are gobbling up the new gTLDs.
There are only so many unicorn startups that will show up and pay top dollar for any domain, especially since .io now owns that space for tech centric co's.
But realtors, lawyers, service (plumbing, a/c, etc.) and regular businesses are expading or launching with new gTLDs and that will continue to grow. It's not a race, the mindshare and knowledge of the new gTLDs has to grow and we are just at the very start. Remeber back in the early 90's people could reg .com for FREE. These are 6, 7 and 8 figure names now in many cases.
Anyways it is nice to see the variety of opinion on the matter and I look forward to seeing where we are in 10 years on these new gTLDS

 

[nomen]

Why Google Buy x.company or .xyz ? or spend Big Money for nTld ? They are Idiots ? They have no plan ?
Google are Trendsetter !
Nobody push a Business without a Plan !

They probably bought those domains because someone thought they were cool. I agree, cool. Absolutely nothing to do with domain investing. Just nothing.

 

[guillon]

They probably bought those domains because someone thought they were cool. I agree, cool. Absolutely nothing to do with domain investing. Just nothing.

I agree here. Domain name investment does not necessarily have to deal with "new gTLDs", new domain names were not created for investors.

 

[Brands.International]

I agree here. Domain name investment does not necessarily have to deal with "new gTLDs", new domain names were not created for investors.

Exactly

 

[frank-germany]

When they release .supercalifragilisticexpialidocious I have my eye on a few of them,

My.supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
Our.supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
Her.supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
His.supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
Sexy.supercalifragilisticexpialidocious

And of course
supercalifragilisticexpialidocious.supercalifragilisticexpialidocious

Its going to be Super!

dont forget super low numbers like
1.supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
2.supercalifragilisticexpialidocious

as they are super short domains


and

88.supercalifragilisticexpialidocious

as chinese will want those