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[equity78]

One of the areas I always thought that was attractive from an investment standpoint in the .tv extension was LL.tv. Now of course Verisign and Demand Media are screwing things up IMO by not having one universal premium $1000. Some are $1000 some are $5000 some $10,000.

As I did a little research today (no scripts all 676 checked by hand)
There are 295 Regged and 381 available

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Some state abbreviations and if you are into adult and can develop BJ.tv the best domain on the list IMO Instantly intuitive and brandable, no one will forget the domain and will be looking for one thing. But I digress I do not build adult sites. RE is nice for Real Estate IMO IS another nice one IMO

 

[StargateCapital]

re.tv $30000

what a deal!

:/

Sneakers

 

[equity78]

Yeah Roy they are a joke with some at $1000 and that at $30,000 I mean $20,000 higher than US.tv and UK.tv Verisign and Demand Media need to get a clue.

 

[StargateCapital]

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[heroes]

I know its history now, but up until about 6 weeks ago there were quite a few same letter LL's for $1k. Although most dont stand for anything particular I think they are excellent investments just for their uniqueness.

The same holds for LL's that are Country Codes, and yes John, de.tv is one of the very best IMO!

 

[johntv]

I know its history now, but up until about 6 weeks ago there were quite a few same letter LL's for $1k. Although most dont stand for anything particular I think they are excellent investments just for their uniqueness.

The same holds for LL's that are Country Codes, and yes John, de.tv is one of the very best IMO!

Thanks heroes! Two years ago there where some double letters available for $400 a year, although those were not the best letters, if I remember correctly it was uu.tv, ww.tv and maybe a few others as well, I only took ff.tv for that $400 renewal.

 

[equity78]

Yes John when we first started remember FF and .mike regged it. The key is if they convert. Now John and a few others lucked out on the LL.tv for $125 the first day we had our auction in August.

John were you surprised almost half regged ? If Verisign made them all $1000 most in premium letters would be regged IMO

 

[johntv]

John were you surprised almost half regged ? If Verisign made them all $1000 most in premium letters would be regged IMO

Yes, I was indeed surprised and checked a few more after seeing your list, but the few I like are all at least $10k a year.

All decent (and half decent) LL.tv's for $1k are gone already, so like you say, it's pretty save to assume that when the renewal would be dropped to $1k the premium letters would go fast.

Nice list by the way, great info!

 

[htmlindex]

Some state abbreviations and if you are into adult and can develop BJ.tv the best domain on the list IMO Instantly intuitive and brandable, no one will forget the domain and will be looking for one thing.

BJ.tv would've been nice, but not at $10k/year. Too expensive IMO

 

[equity78]

Thank you JOHN it was by hand so took a little. Verisign plays this game instead of just making them $1000 they look the same and say BJ.tv ok $10,000 because Adult sites make money on the net. RE.tv for $30,000 which I believe is a Demand Media markup because Verisign never had a LL.tv in the system for $30,000. There are a couple good $1000 JOHN just a couple. I was glad Lance and I got SD.tv for $1000 before Demand Media marked it up.

 

[MicroGuy]

Thanks for the hard work EQ! This is another shinning example of how those in charge of .TV appear to have a drunk driver behind the wheel.

Can't Richard and Verisign afford a designated driver? :yell:

 

[equity78]

I agree Greg because anyone can come in and realize you are essentially selling the same thing for all different pricing points with no logic behind the pricing.

Walk in to a pizza place I will take a slice of cheese $2 next guy I will take a slice of cheese too, $4 last guy comes in can I get a slice? sure $8 It is laughable a 10 year old would do better pricing the extension.

 

[RPK]

Thanks for putting this together Eq. As you know I only have one, but I think for $1k it is a safe investment.

 

[StoneRoses]

I agree Greg because anyone can come in and realize you are essentially selling the same thing for all different pricing points with no logic behind the pricing.

Walk in to a pizza place I will take a slice of cheese $2 next guy I will take a slice of cheese too, $4 last guy comes in can I get a slice? sure $8 It is laughable a 10 year old would do better pricing the extension.

Excellent analogy Ray, and nice work with the list particulary doing it by hand!.
I have made my thoughts known about what i think of the premium pricing several times and whilst i am in favour of premium renewals in general,the current pricing structure( i use the word "structure "very loosely) is doing more harm than good, with the lack of consistency for ll and lll.tvs and the ridiculous $100 premiums in the list it is seriously making a mockery of what premium pricing should be all about .

 

[Dr. Mindwrecker]

Pricing for those LL.tv should be the same across the board,
After looking at this thread, these are the things that hurt .tv as the price inconsistency confuses people...

I still think premium pricing is good because if it was not there, none of the names would have ever been available, but the inconsistency of pricing in these situations are bad.

 

[equity78]

Exactly MW make them all $1000 let them sell out and increase demand. Also for Verisign if they were all registered bringing a higher price would mean people would renew every year because there was an inherent value. LL and LLL have no inherent accross the board value until they are all registered.

 

[heroes]

Exactly MW make them all $1000 let them sell out and increase demand. Also for Verisign if they were all registered bringing a higher price would mean people would renew every year because there was an inherent value. LL and LLL have no inherent accross the board value until they are all registered.

In part I disagree with this Eq, although it is a two edged sword.

The reality is that LL's and LLL's are not commodities. Leaving aside Premium Pricing for a minute, there is a huge difference in the inherent value of LL's such as: it; at; us; me; compared to zy; qv; rz; tx etc. The same holds with LLL's such as anything that has word value like: tea; gin; win; compared to dsz; tdq; gcm etc.

The TLD has a Premium price structure and whoever and for whatever reason and whatever they were on at the time, attempted to differentiate value between the LL's and between the LLL's because there is different inherent value.

That is why IMO you cannot have same uniform pricing of say $1k for LL's and $500 for LLL's. Although this would be a simple solution, the fact is all the brilliant LL's and LLL's would have been regged and held many years ago and all the crappy stuff would still be where it is today - on the shelf.

If they now reduced the pricing of all LL's down to $1k, then us.tv; mm.tv (and there aren't that many of them) would all be regged in seconds. The other remaining LL's will just keep moving slowly and the same analogy holds with the LLL's.

Note: I am not agreeing with how various domains are priced. Some are miles too low and some miles too high.

 

[equity78]

Safe to say we agree to disagree

The TLD has a Premium price structure and whoever and for whatever reason and whatever they were on at the time, attempted to differentiate value between the LL's and between the LLL's because there is different inherent value.

Because there are many LL and LLL that do not follow the logic. I got Tea.tv a lot cheaper than John got Ver.tv and there is no comparing those two domains IMO.
Same with SD.tv for $1000 which is far superior to most LL.tv priced at $10,000

And most do consider LL or LLL as a limited commodity the reason why even zxq.com will get a minimum $5000 in todays market. If there were LLL.com unregged it would not have a mimimum inherent value

Again IMO

 

[equity78]

For those who asked about LL.tv availability

 

[hullswingerscom]

what th best left do you think?