List verisign trademark .tv names here

[jeffoverman]

Hi

I had received my first trademark letter by a law firm last week. I am in discussions with them right now and etc. I won't disclose name on this for the time being and its a .net name.

So over the weekend I was thinking about these high end names by .tv, enom, and etc.

It worries me a lot when I see names that are trademarked and .tv is making a killing on these names and yearly fees.

I was also wondering what would happen if you register a name for 500 a year and a few months go by and receive a trademark letter in the mail because you own the name. So what happens if there will be money damages? Can you go after .tv and verisign and enom for damages? There the ones that are oromoting trademarked names. What would have a common end user didn't realize it was trademarked like myself last year. Your out of 1500 bucks for a 3 year deal with enom.

The purpose of this thread is to give fellow .tv domainers a chance to see .tv names that are trademarked and not risk there money and lawsuits. I know its a complex matter and etc.

So I need your help and let's list the .tv names in this thread. List the yearly fees on each name.

 

[TheBulldog]

I think this has done before, but I will just say this....If a name is for sale for a premium price and it is a Premium......legally, the leasee (domain name holder) is responsible for any potential TM issues.

So if it is unregistered, then it is the registrar/manager of extension holding the sales reins that is legally liable. If someone registers it, then they accept the legal liabilities of any issues.

That is just my memory of business law. I would bet that that is also part of the registration agreement.

 

[DnEbook]

its worth looking at uspto and the madrid protocal , although i normally just have a quick look at the uspto and make a decision . even put a thread up in the legal issues part of namepros once .... got some replies

 

[MicroGuy]

There are hundreds of TM premiums. Here are a couple of potential landmines from the first three pages of their so-called premium list:

Charter.tv $15,000.00/Yr.
Superman.tv $10,000.00/Yr.

 

[Domagon]

Just as with .com, .net, etc, the registrant bears the responsibility of due diligence before buying (leasing) a .TV domain...

You don't see registrars refunding fees to registrants who lose their domains in UDRPs, lawsuits, etc.

With that said, a .TV domain holder may, especially in instances in when the parties agree the infringement wasn't purely intentional, be able to obtain a settlement in which the TM complainant compensates the domain holder the pro-rated amount of the annual registration fee upon taking ownership.

On a related topic ... personally, I feel the biggest threat to .TV domain holders is the variable pricing, which could potentially change unpredictably in the future; Tuvalu ultimately calls the shots and can change the rules any time for any reason - it's happened before in other ccTLDs, including .TM and even .US.

Ron

 

[MicroGuy]

On a related topic ... personally, I feel the biggest threat to .TV domain holders is the variable pricing, which could potentially change unpredictably in the future; Tuvalu ultimately calls the shots and can change the rules any time for any reason - it's happened before in other ccTLDs, including .TM and even .US.

Ron

Yes, this is a problem that is largely ignored and perhaps the primary reason that DM & Verisign are so willing to negotiate lower renewals fees in exchange for large upfront payments.

Could it be they see the writing on the wall?

 

[htmlindex]

There are hundreds of TM premiums. Here are a couple of potential landmines from the first three pages of their so-called premium list:

Charter.tv $15,000.00/Yr.
Superman.tv $10,000.00/Yr.

Sorry, but I don't see how somebody challenging a generic dictionary word like Charter is gonna win a TM lawsuit.

 

[jacksonm]

Sorry, but I don't see how somebody challenging a generic dictionary word like Charter is gonna win a TM lawsuit.

While the word is certainly an abstract trademark, the combination with the dot tv extension brings the entire domain name itself squarely into the realm of that abstract trademark (IMO). Charter Communications is a huge cable TV provider in the US. What are you going to do, make a reality TV show about chartered airplanes or cruise ships? Chartering the sea bed? Charter is just not that versatile or common of a word. It's barely used in spoken English. I think Charter Communications could probably take this name from anyone with ease and DM is just raising the "protect your TM" tax for Charter by listing it as a premium. That in itself should be challengeable behaviour, IMO. It sets a bad precedent if Charter would actually pay this tax.

Just my 2 cents. IANAL.

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