discuss .コム (VERISIGNs japanese .com) SHOWCASE / DISCUSSION THREAD on NAMEPROS

[DOMAIN ILLUMINATI]

Dear nP members,


as you may know, the new extension .コム, which is the 'japanese pendant' of .com and which is powered by VERISIGN (.com / .net / .tv / .cc / .name / and now .コム) will turn into GA on JUN., 13., 2016

• What do you think about the .コム TLD?
• Have you registered allready a .コム domain?

I think .コム will be a 'blast' in japanese market and because of this and other reason/s I allready registered (PAPP) the following one:

コムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコム.コム

That's 27 times 'コム' / TLD '.コム'
27 times ‘コム’ is the maximum possible ammount of ‘コム’ in a .コム domain name
IDN: xn--tckaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa84jbabbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb.xn--tckwe
Not a 63.DOMAIN but a perfect 54 (IDN 63) character PREMIUM domain

 

[bluebox]

Why do you believe anyone would want this domain and how is a a german speaker supposed to type this in?

Would anyone want comcomccomcomcomcomcomcomcomcomcomcomcomcomcomcom.com?

You cant' use this in an ad or for a website.

kingof.top is also kingof.63
http://www.63.domains/

Your highness, I think we will have to do an intervention for your 63 addiction soon.

 

[AMRO1001]

As mentioned, I registered this domain in the PAPP

so you had

コムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコム.COM

registered so that you can register

コムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコム.コム

?

Thanks
A

 

[argoss]

Verisign has invented this Premium Pricing idea, only recently...for several years existing IDN.com owners were led to believe their matching names would be free with their existing name, or at worse a regular additional reg fee.
I'm sure their will much more to come, in regards to this issue.

 

[dordomai]

Japan doesn't have an active IDN aftermarket.The japanese IDN extensions that were released in the past years are dead I believe. IMO this is a long term bet at best. At worst it's one of many future ghost extensions that no one will care about. Wouldn't expect quick development of a market for this one. Time will tell.

 

[hikari]

but there are those who google terms in Japanese....read google results in Japanese...read the website in Japanese then comment in Japanes???

Most Japanese type with romaji, which is converted as they type. They're english might not be great, but they're very familiar with the roman alphabet.

 

[DOMAIN ILLUMINATI]

so you had

コムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコム.COM

registered so that you can register

コムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコムコム.コム

?

Thanks
A

Yes.

 

[DOMAIN ILLUMINATI]

I was looking at this extension I see that Hotels.com in Japanees is priced at 18K in 101domains.com

ホテル.コム

So even if you own ホテル.com you still charged premium price in the PAPP?

According to their info (see my marked area at the screenshot) I would say yes, I think so
But you always can contact / ask Verisign / your registrar to go for sure.

Hope this helps.

 

[Gobinath]

@kingof.top
you are rocking man!
good luck!,

 

[N-A]

バカ.コム (available...)

 

[DOMAIN ILLUMINATI]

So you think .コム will have inherited prestige and popularity from .com and the after market will develop quickly or it will be like any other gTLD trying to build itself from scratch?

Mixed, I think.
People will 'trust' .コム faster than some other new TLDs - simply because it's powered by Verisign.
But at the end it's created for japanese economy (because they have a good economy).
I choosed this TLD primarely to create the longest possible コムコムコム... .コム which is now part of my 63.DOMAINS collection.
Currently I don't know if I will register any other .コム domain.

 

[SVUV]

Mixed, I think.
People will 'trust' .コム faster than some other new TLDs - simply because it's powered by Verisign.
But at the end it's created for japanese economy (because they have a good economy).
I choosed this TLD primarely to create the longest possible コムコムコム... .コム which is now part of my 63.DOMAINS collection.
Currently I don't know if I will register any other .コム domain.

It's hard to say if the ".コム" will take off, but I see some quick obvious pros and cons.

cons
company sites and users in Japan primarily use the ccTLD .co.jp(yahoo.co.jp, amazon.co.jp, google.co.jp). That means the transition or rush to a .コム domain may take much longer when their customer base is not used to using a .com or even a .com.jp if that was a thing(it's not).

pros
1) Typng "com" into Japanese language processors is not even possible. It would look like "こm" or "コu" it would physically need to be completed by typing "komu" which こむ higrana or コム Japanese katakana(the reasoning behind the .co.jp/.ne.jp instead of .com.jp/.net.jp for ccTLD purposes). The reason katakana is used is due to the fact that japanese even has it's own writing system for foreign word ie グーグル (guguru) for "google"

I own コ.コム (ko. komu better know as co. com) for both the pros and cons listed above.

 

[hikari]

I've never seen a single .コム or .みんな (or any other IDNs) site advertised here or in use and I rarely even see URLs advertised at all. I don't see this taking off. In conversation, .com and .コム are the same, so it's another step in trying to explain that it's in katakana and not in romaji.

 

[Kassey Lee]

ラクテン.com

Consumers may also type it as ﾗｸﾃﾝ.com (I have not checked how this issue is resolved.)

This is the complexity resulted from being able to write Katakana in 全角 (double bytes) and 半角 (single byte).

 

[AMRO1001]

Thx all for your posts - the aspect that .コム sounds identical as .com is a real punchline.

Only the difference is in the Dot, I do not know how Dot in pronounced in Japanese.. but guess it will be pronounced differently...say "Dot" or "Dot in Japanese"...but still confusing...

 

[DOMAIN ILLUMINATI]

Only the difference is in the Dot, I do not know how Dot in pronounced in Japanese.. but guess it will be pronounced differently...say "Dot" or "Dot in Japanese"...but still confusing...

This thought is a good consideration - if 'dot' in japanese doesn't sound like 'dot' in english, then this would be the 'key' to know which .コム / .com is meant rather (of course if the domain is only to hear and not seen).

 

[brandnow]

I live in Japan and most Japanese friends I've spoken to said they don't care about this extension. Just thought I'd share that unscientific survey. I think I'm one of the only NP members in Japan.

 

[AMRO1001]

I live in Japan and most Japanese friends I've spoken to said they don't care about this extension. Just thought I'd share that unscientific survey. I think I'm one of the only NP members in Japan.

but there are those who google terms in Japanese....read google results in Japanese...read the website in Japanese then comment in Japanes??

So what the English domain is doing?It is the only non-IDN thing...

What about hash tags in twitter, more in Japanese or English?

In Arabic I see that suddenly Twitter hash tags usage turned from English to Arabic...who not domains follow?

Its speculation anyway...

 

[dordomai]

but there are those who google terms in Japanese....

Are you aware of the technical limitations of IDNs?

If you want to have an IDN link displayed on a third party website not as punycode, their system has to support it. If you want to receive or send emails the mailserver of the other guy has to support them etc. Many other issues. There is no way that you will see serious development happen on IDNs anytime soon.

Also in asian countries people often use western keyboards to create for example Japanese scripts, so you have to type the domains as ASCII in either case anyway. With IDNs you have an additional step, so it's not surprising they tend to go with short and easy ASCII domains.

Keep that in mind before you give Verisign some of your money.

 

[Kassey Lee]

I think .コム will be a 'blast' in japanese market

Why do you think .コム will be a 'blast' when it is still popular for ads to include a search box with keywords, asking consumers to find them via search?

 

[DOMAIN ILLUMINATI]

Why do you think .コム will be a 'blast' when it is still popular for ads to include a search box with keywords, asking consumers to find them via search?

People (not only japanese) which like .com will like .コム as well, it is short, it looks stylish, it has the same pronunciation sound and it is from the same popular company like .com, Verisign.
https://www.verisign.com/en_US/domain-names/japanese-com-domain-names/index.xhtml

I don't know if it is still popular for the reasons you mentioned.
One .コム domain I have seen this days is 1.コム

 

[ttfan]

You can't buy them yet, can you?

 

[argoss]

They are available now to the current IDN.com owners.

 

[DOMAIN ILLUMINATI]

You can't buy them yet, can you?

As mentioned, I registered this domain in the PAPP

PAPP = Priority Access Program Period = .com Exact Match
15 Mar 2016 00:00 UTC to 15 May 2016 00:00 UTC

PAPP Description

This phase is restricted to current registrants of a second-level domain name (in ASCII or IDN script) in the .com TLD. As long as the below criteria are met, this limited time phase allows .com registrants priority registration on their exact match domain name under the .コム (.xn--tckwe).

Criteria

• The matching .com name must be registered before February 1, 2016 (the start date of the Priority Access Program Period).
• The registrant must have held the registration of the existing .com Second Level Domain Name for longer than the Add Grace Period (as set forth in Verisign's Registration Lifecycle Processes and Grace Periods).
• Matching strings can only be registered with the underlying registrar of record of the exact match .com domain name. If we are not the registrar of your .com domain name, your name can be easily transferred to us to satisfy this requirement.

Domains will be awarded on a first come first served (FCFS) basis. Certain names may be reserved or considered premium names.

My source:
https://www.101domain.com/コム.htm

GA of .コム will be Jun., 13., 2016

 

[brindle123]

my keyboard doesn't speak japanese!

shouldn't everything to the left of the dot be in japanese if the extension is in japanese?
This will limit your sales to the japanese market. No one in the US will want one except MAYBE someone that can speak japanese!

.コム as well, it is short, it looks stylish

It looks like a backwards "C" and a messed up "4".
C4 is an explosive and would cause a "blast" though.