discuss Is .top worth investing in?

[rayman617]

This new gTLD .top seems to be one of the most popular but are they worth investing in and easily liquidated?

 

[Bob Hawkes]

An investor would probably make it resolve to some kind of lander.

You would think so, but a surprising number of domains sold in all extensions do not seem to resolve to anything even long after sale. Now a few of them may be future use or defensive or misguided acquisitions, but I continue to be surprised how widespread this is, in .com, new gTLD everything.

Re .top itself for last while, but now more sporadically, the registry report sales above some level via their premium network to NameBio. I am surprised how many and at high values there are. There are also sales reported via traditionsl aftermarket venues. Most sales are Chinese words but a number English. Top usually dominates the list of new gTlD sales in a year, although it will seem less so in 2019.

Now that more new gTLDs are officially approved in China, not sure if that will weaken interest in .top.

I personalky have held a few but never been able to sell above lowish $$. If one looks at under $100 sales in NameBio subscription database I am not alone. I still hold a few hoping that I will sometime find a sale at $$$. At prices to buy and even hold, it is a low expenditure risk.

It is probably partly due to western world biases in the Alexa methodology, but concerning that .top does not find proportionally as many in Alexa 1M as many other extensions.

Bob

 

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After circus.top was taken I moved on to another gtld

 

[rayman617]

What new gTLD do you guys recommend investing in for an English speaking market?

 

[Bob Hawkes]

A check on NB shows a flurry of sales end of June and beginning of July in the upper $xxxx,

It used to be that they reported every week or two but in 2019 seem to just be doing it every few months. Not sure reason for change.

What new gTLD do you guys recommend investing in for an English speaking market?

It is a tough question to answer. Rather than looking at certain TLD I would concentrate on great matches across the dot that you can hold without high premium renewals.

Bob

 

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What new gTLD do you guys recommend investing in for an English speaking market?

The one with the most relevant searches associated with it. eg word + gtld makes that sense and is best of the premium results without too high premium renewals. The most logical word to go in front of the gtld.
Forget 2 words + gtld for now.

 

[poweredbyme]

Is there any market for English use?

namesilo

What new gTLD do you guys recommend investing in for an English speaking market?

I try to develop new websites on the TLD's with lowest renewal fee, under $5 /year.
I don't think .com is king in organic search traffic. Why should I pay $9 per year for a dot.com while there are cheaper TLD's?

 

[Josytal]

Another relevant factor you might want to consider is the number of active/indexed websites with .top domain name extension.
For example, you can google:
site:".top"
About 85,300,000 results

site:".club"
About 155,000,000 results

site:".co"
About 815,000,000 results

site:".com"
About 25,270,000,000 results

You can query for other extensions.

 

[Ivan Rasskazov]

As I continue to follow this thread, is .TOP worth acquiring as an investment if you are another registry?

 

[manpreet]

This new gTLD .top seems to be one of the most popular but are they worth investing in and easily liquidated?

No, unless there is a perfect short one word that makes sense with .top

 

[Jurgen Wolf]

What new gTLD do you guys recommend investing in for an English speaking market?

What you see on GoDaddy main page...

 

[frank-germany]

This new gTLD .top seems to be one of the most popular but are they worth investing in and easily liquidated?

out of 400 .top registered I kept about 4 of them

blouse.top
bustier.top
vneck.top
travelinsurance.top

feel free to make me an offer
they are for sale

 

[frank-germany]

my personal view: from Chinese culture view, .top is really a over high profile extention, there was a famous video while a stupid people introduce himself as a TOP designer( and many other TOP titles ) in front of Jack Ma, people just laugh at him just like find the most stupid guy on the earth....too high profile to be respected...

so, well educated business man in China will never call themself the top....if u meet some Chinese always flaunt/display himself as the top,, just stay away from him...our culture encourage low key....so, the failure of .top is foreseeable in my view...

....I have no any relationship(good or bad) with .top company or its staff, I have only 1 .top name which I am going to drop...

just my 2 cents

looks like that name is your top-drop

 

[Zilla]

looks like that name is your top-drop

well, I just aware it have more than half year to expire...

 

[poweredbyme]

Another relevant factor you might want to consider is the number of active/indexed websites with .top domain name extension.
For example, you can google:
site:".top"
About 85,300,000 results

site:".club"
About 155,000,000 results

site:".co"
About 815,000,000 results

site:".com"
About 25,270,000,000 results

You can query for other extensions.

That query will include undeveloped domains too. You can't know how many of them are developed websites. "site: " doesn't mean site. It will show indexed domains, in other words, all domains with working dns and http server giving http 200 and sometimes 301/302 response.

 

[Bob Hawkes]

It is important to realize that a few new gTLD registries report sales to NameBio (.top some of the time, .global, a selection of .club, periodically very high value Radix) but the vast majority do not. So we should not misunderstand that because .top and .global have a fair amount of the new extension sales volume on NameBio that they are the most sold new TLDs. I suspect something significantly less than 5% of registry sales of premiums are reported to NameBio, and in any case those are registry sales.

Bob

 

[Jurgen Wolf]

Take 300-500 those domains... non-Chinese...
And after 1 year this NameBio data will become for you as just for fun.

Most hype on this forum is from those who has 1-20 domains per TLD.

 

[Domainstore]

This new gTLD .top seems to be one of the most popular but are they worth investing in and easily liquidated?

Regardless of what everybody says : .top still has an enormous amount of registrations. And it doesn't matter that 80% would be from Chinese registrants. This means that Chinese people can be interested in your registerred domains also.
Look at it on the long run.
What's important : They're cheap for the moment. ((at the right registrars 1 or 1.99 USD). And also renewal is cheap.
Once a year at certain registrars renewal is only 1,99 in a certain month. But you have to look for it. If you renew for 5 years then, it only costs 10 USD in that case. (but now cheap renewal is also found at 4.99 USD).
For some OTHER extentions indeed it's not much money either, for 1st year (promotions) but renewal is 20 USD or more.
If you registerred 100 dot.whatevernewextention-domains for 300 USD (3 USD/ piece 1st year promotionregistrations) and you have to renew at 20 USD/piece, the renewal will cost you 2000 USD for all of them. And that is much less at .top.

For english use : it's important that you use .top with "top" used as a meaning added to the word in front of ".top" so in fact the actual word you register).
It's in fact the same meaning as .best,; but renewals for .best are 17,95 USD or more. And for .top that's not the case; renewals are (still ; for the moment !!!) cheap.

 

[Jurgen Wolf]

That query will include undeveloped domains too. You can't know how many of them are developed websites. "site: " doesn't mean site. It will show indexed domains, in other words, all domains with working dns and http server giving http 200 and sometimes 301/302 response.

Not even domains...
This command shows the indexed PAGES...

 

[Josytal]

That query will include undeveloped domains too. You can't know how many of them are developed websites. "site: " doesn't mean site. It will show indexed domains, in other words, all domains with working dns and http server giving http 200 and sometimes 301/302 response.

Of course they are not 100% accurate.
Be as it may, one common thing I've observed about the results is that, statistically, they are directly proportional to the officially published number of registered domains for the extensions. Unless you have other figures to dispute this.

 

[poweredbyme]

Of course they are not 100% accurate.
Be as it may, one common thing I've observed about the results is that, statistically, they are directly proportional to the officially published number of registered domains for the extensions. Unless you have other figures to dispute this.

It will not give "active/indexed websites with .top domain name extension." It will give number of indexed pages as @Jurgen Wolf said and as I said it will not give all registered domains in top extension.
Number of indexed pages are irrelevant to number of registered domain in TLD. Every number has a proportion to another number. That proportion, say 85% or 47% or another, may change over the time and doesn't create a conclusion on its accuracy or relevancy as there is no reliable correlation.

There is no way to find it on google search. Lack of other figure doesn't mean it's more or less accurate. It's an entirely different and irrelevant thing. For instance, 1K sites on top TLD may be totaling 100M indexed pages on google, it will inflate the number by 100M. Dynamic sites may have more than 10x pages on index as category, tags, search, paginations etc pages may get indexed well, no matter how the content is duplicated. Also if linked somewhere, some text files may get indexed as if they are HTML pages as most browsers display those files properly like HTML.

There is no reliable correlation.

 

[Blitzpotz]

If you still are in doubt about .top then you might want to read my report about my only sale in this extension two months ago: Link.

 

[Josytal]

It will not give "active/indexed websites with .top domain name extension." It will give number of indexed pages as @Jurgen Wolf said and as I said it will not give all registered domains in top extension.
Number of indexed pages are irrelevant to number of registered domain in TLD. Every number has a proportion to another number. That proportion, say 85% or 47% or another, may change over the time and doesn't create a conclusion on its accuracy or relevancy as there is no reliable correlation.

There is no way to find it on google search. Lack of other figure doesn't mean it's more or less accurate. It's an entirely different and irrelevant thing. For instance, 1K sites on top TLD may be totaling 100M indexed pages on google, it will inflate the number by 100M. Dynamic sites may have more than 10x pages on index as category, tags, search, paginations etc pages may get indexed well, no matter how the content is duplicated. Also if linked somewhere, some text files may get indexed as if they are HTML pages as most browsers display those files properly like HTML.

There is no reliable correlation.

You ended supporting what you're trying to disagree with.

The logic behind those figures are very simple: domain extension popularity, since the primary objective of domains are websites.
The more domains registered in an extension, the higher the probability of more websites and pages being created and hosted on those domains. Logical?

site:".top"
About 85,300,000 results

site:".club"
About 155,000,000 results

site:".co"
About 815,000,000 results

site:".net"
About 6,710,000,000 results

site:".com"
About 25,270,000,000 results

You can query for other extensions and see the correlation.
Finally, it's my opinion and I'm not here to force it on anybody.

 

[offthehandle]

The more domains registered in an extension, the higher the probability of more websites and pages being created and hosted on those domains. Logical?

No correlation of registrations to website. Tons of valuable or speculative 2 word .coms sit parked or dropped after a few years, then reregistered.

The more domains sold for cheap 0.99 deals like .Top did, the more sales. That causes increases of promo only registraion, or first year registrations or spikes in sales. Nothing to do with development.

.xyz and Uniregistry were touting their nnnnn.xyz’s here as the future of connecting your toaster and hairdryer and IOT and bitcoin for .088 cents.

https://www.namepros.com/threads/88-cent-domains-how-many-are-you-buying.1021822/

There are other tools to see what is developed, very few .tops are in the top million sites.

 

[PowerDN]

If you start typing out toptoptoptoptop to infinity you can claim to own the most expensive domain or the illuminati will come after you. (someone will get my humour)

I remember
Where is he now?

 

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I remember
Where is he now?

The Aluminarti swallowed him up.