Is dot Com king forever?

[onlinelife]

Is dot Com king forever or all going to change after ICANN shake domain industry next year?

New internet domain names in 2009: ICANN

 

[worldstar]

.asia will be the king, dot com will have no opportunity when there's .com----for joke certainly.

 

[raredn.com]

.asia will be the king, dot com will have no opportunity when there's .com----for joke certainly.

, I guess in a way you are right worldstar, to .asia fans, .asia is King... You can not deny the .asia domainer fan clubs obvious love and enthusiasm for the .asia extension

 

[tech4]

It has to do with new technology and the uses. I think the entrepreneurs in the 1990s are now probably rich enough to say "its time to sit back" and not scrambling to make money as the newbies in 2008.

Dot com the first ever extension and widely used in the USA. However we already see changes such the Europeans using their own extension in Europe and expect the same in Asia. Dot com is the king in the USA but not in other region of the world.

I expect to see a lot of changes in new technologies and uses on the online world.

Technology is the future.

 

[scandiman]

Dot com won't be unseated by any upstarts. The idea of it makes me laugh.

I'm not contending that .com will or won't be unseated, I'm simply saying that there are opportunities outside of .com, and often these upstarts are in fact better investments in terms of growth. That is what I care about, not who is bigger.

So unless we start eating food in cube form we can continue to expect McDonalds and Coca-Cola to remain on top. It's why Warren Buffet invested deeply into these companies and it paid off in spades.

So are you contending that these companies will represent the best growth opportunities in their industries moving forward?

If you want to have a religious discussion at least have it part of the domain discussion.

For Christianity ...Catholics are by far the #1 faith. For every split in Christian churches do you think it hurts the Roman Catholic Church or the various Christian faiths more? One billion Catholics...and then there is the rest. The other Christian faiths can't even be counted properly.

Using your analogy please consider these facts.

worlds largest church building - Nigeria - Seating 50,000 with outside overflow of 250,000.

Worlds largest church by congregation members - Seoul, South Korea - over 800,000 members

US largest Church - Houston Texas - seats 16,000 (former Houston Rockets stadium) with 2 Sunday services.

None of these are Catholic.

Not interested in a religious debate, just pointing out that while the Roman Catholic Church may have the most denominational members worldwide, the major growth and activity has been elsewhere with those not so concerned about their denomination.

Again, growth in my investments is what I care about.

 

[onlinelife]

Here is another gimmick
Is .Sex the New .Com?
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=5251769&page=1

 

[cityforums.com]

Here is another gimmick
Is .Sex the New .Com?
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=5251769&page=1

There goes all PREMIUM sex related .COMs ... the internet is getting

catalogued. New era is upon us. Billions in value will exchange hands

 

[moped]

IMO Dot com will remain king but its influence and relative popularity will continue to decline as more TLD's are released, however dot com will always be regarded as generic for the internet.

 

[uber]

IMO Dot com will remain king but its influence and relative popularity will continue to decline as more TLD's are released, however dot com will always be regarded as generic for the internet.

o rly?

I think the confusion will make .com stronger.


of course .god and .jesus ( maybe even .scientology) will be strong....

funny how none of the .god faction seem to think of .family first.... :]

 

[labrocca]

Worlds Largest Christian Church is Catholic
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1077/is_n2_v46/ai_9177142

And your point btw?

No one disputes that you can't have success outside of dotcom. The thread is about dotcom being King forever. You have stated nothing that would argue against that.

 

[martina2061]

I'm with Scandiman on this one. I don't care if .com will be the largest TLD or not. It is not my invention and unfortunately I did not get in on the ground floor.
What matters most for me and I think most others is return on investment and right now I believe .asia will provide a higher percentage profit IMO.

So .com may fetch the higher prices for eternity but a lower ROI and unfortunately you can't eat prestige.

 

[DnEbook]

again i say .tv is the way to go , the internet is becoming more visual

 

[onlinelife]

again i say .tv is the way to go , the internet is becoming more visual

Everything online is not about visual, many other factors need to count. Tv is trend and trends keep changing. Sex is there to stay on top like .com as long as we people exist, and then comes the others visual, video, tvs and cam and unlimited.

 

[scandiman]

Worlds Largest Christian Church is Catholic
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1077/is_n2_v46/ai_9177142

Um, not quite, seats 18k in the building vs 50k in the church in Nigeria. Maybe the Nigeria building wasn't built in 1990 which is when your reference dates to.

And your point btw?

That being the biggest globally doesn't mean you're the biggest locally.

No one disputes that you can't have success outside of dotcom.

Actually, that is inferred often. 'Dotcom is king...don't bother with anything else'. It's a blinders mentality many unfortunately have.

The thread is about dotcom being King forever. You have stated nothing that would argue against that.

As stated before, I'm not arguing against it. I'm redefining "king" for me as what is the king of ROI. Today, I don't think it is dotcom.

It's a big world out there folks, .com may be biggest globally now and in 10 years but the king in China, Japan, Korea, or the Arab speaking world may look completely foreign to us Westerners. With the advent of IDN TLD's from the recent ICANN ruling, that may represent one of the biggest growth opportunities looking forward, and I won't be able to read a single one of them. :lol:

I'm with Scandiman on this one. I don't care if .com will be the largest TLD or not. It is not my invention and unfortunately I did not get in on the ground floor.
What matters most for me and I think most others is return on investment and right now I believe .asia will provide a higher percentage profit IMO.

So .com may fetch the higher prices for eternity but a lower ROI and unfortunately you can't eat prestige.

:bingo: :bingo:

 

[hullswingerscom]

Deals.de top of dnj so maybe things are about to change..as the man in street see more good developed sites like tv,org,info .but i only see good com sites now as yet not seen my kids on and org info or tv sites,

 

[cityforums.com]

Deals.de top of dnj so maybe things are about to change..as the man in street see more good developed sites like tv,org,info .but i only see good com sites now as yet not seen my kids on and org info or tv sites,

I think American kids are going to use .TV to choose their politicians.

Take a look at what this billion dollar corporation is doing.

http://usapolitics.tv/moresites.aspx

 

[npcomplete]

...snip...
As stated before, I'm not arguing against it. I'm redefining "king" for me as what is the king of ROI. Today, I don't think it is dotcom.

It's a big world out there folks, .com may be biggest globally now and in 10 years but the king in China, Japan, Korea, or the Arab speaking world may look completely foreign to us Westerners. With the advent of IDN TLD's from the recent ICANN ruling, that may represent one of the biggest growth opportunities looking forward, and I won't be able to read a single one of them. :lol:

Excellent. For *any* investment, it is not about value, but the rate of change of value and leverage that is important.

The thread title here was "Is dot Com king forever?". Forever is a long time. In my earlier statement in this thread I was comparing it to other things that were perceived at the time as being permanent changes in value, like the silver futures market in 1979 which had an incredible run-up in late 1979 and crash in early 1980. The bulls/bears/hogs comment above was about knowing when to take a profit, and I did just that before the 1980 crash - I wasn't a hog investor but took a huge profit before the probability of correction became significant. There is another old market saying that "you can't go broke by taking a profit". In other words, don't be a hog investor.

We have seen economies rise and fall, powers rise and fall, etc. Rome at one time ruled the world. Great Britain at one time ruled the world. While America (and I am an American) rules the world both in power and economics, we are now seeing a shift in world economies. It would be naive to think that a shift can take place in power and economics without some impact on trivial little things like strings of characters in whatever language.

As I said above, I am still long .com since I think there is potential appreciation there, but to say this will never change is naive, and I am ready to switch strategies as necessary. I am officially "neutral" on introduction of new tld's. Maybe some of my premium .com's will take a hit as a result, maybe not. My job as an investor is to find the greatest ROI, as Scandiman stated above.

The *best* you can hope for in investing is to maximize the *expectation* of ROI. Basically you want to have a balanced portfolio, and adjust that balance according to estimates of probabilities and other metrics of outcome, like:

probability of stock market decreasing
probability of stock market increasing
probability of world economies shifting (and where they shift to)
probability of democrats winning
probability of republicans winning
etc.

You then assign assets to the above scenarios and compute the expected outcome. You don't put all your investments in the area with greatest probability, but divide the assets to achieve the greatest expectation of value. Google "portfolio theory" for further information... and learn some math to protect yourself.

 

[labrocca]

That being the biggest globally doesn't mean you're the biggest locally.

So that's your big point? Not really relevant to the thread since we are discussing one thing. Is dot com king forever. If he isn't your king that's good for you.

As stated before, I'm not arguing against it. I'm redefining "king" for me as what is the king of ROI. Today, I don't think it is dotcom.

If you want to say that you do well in other extensions then so be it. I also do well.

Actually, that is inferred often. 'Dotcom is king...don't bother with anything else'. It's a blinders mentality many unfortunately have.

Inferred by whom? I don't see anyone saying that you can't make money outside dot com. Not one person. This "blinders mentality" you speak of...you aren't a mobi fan by chance are you? Those are the only domainers I can think of that believe in such a mentality. It's either mobi rocks or nothing.

Hmm..I think I am done here. You can't claim it's king and then say well it's not important. Your perspective is flawed.

 

[scandiman]

This "blinders mentality" you speak of...you aren't a mobi fan by chance are you? Those are the only domainers I can think of that believe in such a mentality. It's either mobi rocks or nothing.

I'm a fan of things I think have growth potential. In 1993 I thought domain names would be big, lots of people thought I was nuts. In 2006 I thought .mobi names had a lot of potential, a lot of people think I'm nuts. In 2008 I still like .mobi and also think IDN TLD's have a lot of potential, many will think I am nuts.

Not sure why you want to turn this into bashing a mobi enthusiast. My worst .mobi sale represented a 13x ROI in one year. My best is over 40x ROI. I like those kinds of numbers. My developed .mobi sites are generating traffic and revenue. Lousy parking rev though, at least with the providers I have tried. It's not mobi or nothing for me at all though, I have investments in .com and some minor holdings in .org, .net and even .travel. I like geo domains primarily but also am branching out to real estate, finance, sports, and other domain segments as well.

Hmm..I think I am done here. You can't claim it's king and then say well it's not important. Your perspective is flawed.

If you think that looking at ROI is flawed that is your prerogative. Others in this thread seem to understand what I'm trying to say. Dotcom is king today but forever is a long time. The world is changing and the emerging markets don't care about .com. Be it Asian, Arab, African or Slavic markets or even the mobile web, times are changing. Dotcom is king today but tomorrow is what I think is important. Dotcom may serve as a way to preserve value and provide some growth but for me it does not represent the greatest growth opportunity looking forward. I think it is naive to think something even as dominant as .com will remain dominant forever.

 

[raredn.com]

The world is changing and the emerging markets don't care about .com. Be it Asian, Arab, African or Slavic markets

These markets already have their own country codes now and most have for years (although the release of IDN.IDN will be something else for them to look forward too).

On to what other countries think of .com

People I know here who are from China and in China itself, know the .com extension 'extremely well' and like it. As do Bosnian people, Russian people, people in Turkey, Greek people, people in India and people from other counties that I know 'personally'

I am even half slavic myself

So saying the emerging markets don't care about .com is 'not factual'. Do you think when people from another country visit a .com web address they don't notice that it says .com at the top of their browser. Everyone knows .com, thats the reality

 

[scandiman]

although the release of IDN.IDN will be soemthing else for them to look forward too

That's exactly what I'm referring to. I totally agree with you that there is awareness of .com in these markets today as well as their ccTLD's but I expect IDN.IDN to change things dramatically in those markets as they finally get to shed the Latin characters that are not a part of their languages.