Is Adam Dicker a criminal? You decide.

[S-B]

This story starts with DNF; a barren wasteland that once was a leading forum within the domain industry. While the forum itself played a huge role in propagating the myth that is Adam Dicker, the story really begins with DNF College in the summer of 2011.

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Updates / Reports
These are in no particular order.

• Report by headsupp (Resolved)
  • Relevant Videos
  • Reply to Adam
  • Update: Resolved
  
  
• Report by LannyB (Unresolved)
  • Response
    • Follow-up Questions
  
  
• Report by domainesque (Unresolved)
  • Update: Unresolved
  • Report Details
  • Update: Waiting on Refund
  
  
• Report of Shane Cultra's friends (Unresolved)
  • Update: Unpaid
  
  
• Report by Jeff Markus (Dissatisfied)
  
  
• Report by simmplex (Resolved)
  • Refunded
  
  
• Report by Blenja_Man (Pending)
  • Voucher
  • Update: Work in Progress
  
  
• Report by RandysDomains (Resolved)
  • Resolved
  
  
• Report by swamismith (Unresolved)
  
  
• Report by Charlie (Unresolved)
  • Cover-up
  • Update: Unresolved
  
  
• Report by Jaqpot (Unresolved)
  
  
• Report by anon22339 (Unresolved)
  • Details
  
  
• Report by Joseph Peterson (Resolved)
  • Update: Unpaid after 8 days
  • Update: Paid
  
  
• Report by Frank Schilling (Resolved)
  • Update: Paid
  
  
• Report by Lonewolf5503 (Paypal Dispute)
  • Update: Website not delivered and no longer accessible
  • Update: Lonewolf5503 wins PayPal dispute
  
  
• Report by GermanRaven (Unresolved)
  • Update: Full story
  
  
• Report by ClaudeDauman (Unresolved)
  
  
• Report by bobsranch (Unresolved)
  • Details
  • Update: Legal Letter Received
  
  
• Report by Newby888 (Unresolved)
  
  
• Report by dougasd (Unresolved)

From what I understand, Adam still owes north of $33,000 to previous customers and business partners. As I receive more information, I will update this figure.

 

[discobull]

who is making assumptions here?

It's not an assumption. You wrote "what he did was growing our audience / client base". Note the word "our". When you use the word "our", it clearly means that you're making an assertion that applies to you as well as others. Did you mean to write "your"? If so, maybe you can you could clarify whose client base you think has been expanded thanks to Adam. So far, I only know that it isn't mine or yours.

 

[pokainc]

Guys I think we're sort of attacking each other's character for no reason. I think what Frank is saying is that there were alot of people that got encouraged to more heavily try to expand their domain business based on some of the videos by Adam.. After all there was a reason why the videos on domain sherpa were highly ranked and alot of people had gained information from it... in some of the videos he was actually talking about end user sales and so-on (most probably exagerated). Before his web design part came out, nobody was really arguing that the strategies he mentioned were wrong.. As far as I read, nobody is saying to turn a blind eye to anything.

When is part 2 going to come out before we start going at each other!

 

[discobull]

I think what Frank is saying is that there were alot of people that got encouraged to more heavily try to expand their domain business based on some of the videos by Adam

Do you have an explanation for why Frank would think that when people expand their own domain business that that translates into "growing our audience / client base", or that "those additional people are multipliers to our customer base as we all do reselling to other domainers once in a while"? I'm a bit confused since he now seems to be saying that he himself hasn't benefited from that expanded "audience/client base",

 

[pokainc]

well I can't know 100% for sure, and 1 person's 1% business can still represent alot of money.. but what I understood from that is that for example 4L domains and other keyword rich names for example , yes it created more competition as more people are looking to buy names, but also more people to potentially sell to also as a result.. I don't think anybody here is saying Adam shouldn't be held fully responsible for his actions..it's I guess just a shame that the good he did bring in terms of strategies and info especially for new domainers got fully offset by what seems to be greed and fake deals.

that being said. it's actually cool to see the domain community actually act as one and support each other to this extent

 

[discobull]

I don't think anybody here is saying Adam shouldn't be held fully responsible for his actions.

This thread is about claims by Adam's customers and employees that they've been cheated. If Adam's alleged contribution to our bottom line isn't being mentioned to garner sympathy for him, then I'm at a loss to understand how it's relevant to this thread.

 

[Ms Domainer]

Well, I must tell you, I have some issues with your post. I've always liked you and appreciate your posts in all threads. So please don't take this as an attack, it's just an observation and opinion. Okay, here goes:

You say: "I knew about Adam Dicker's bidding at Go Daddy, but I liked the idea of redemption."
Redemption? As far as I know (and I've been waiting) I've not seen any kind of admission that perhaps he made a mistake bidding against outside customers while an insider (VP of TDNAM auctions) at Godaddy.
His apparent arrogance and lack of soul-searching was quite telling. Only Godaddy stepped up to the plate after the wired.com article http://www.wired.com/2008/06/godaddy-vp-caug/ Redemption? I don't think so.

You say: "I am very disappointed that the major players seem to be turning a blind eye -- it's definitely a black mark on the industry.

Are they afraid of legal ramifications?"

No, they just don't care. IMHO, most probably knew about all of it anyway and just went along with the charade. Worse yet, perhaps they didn't even think it was an ethics issue! Either way, it's obvious they certainly are NOT part of the solution. They certainly can't be afraid of legal ramifications. The TRUTH is the TRUTH. Courts like the truth, and don't frown on those who use it for a defense. The facts speak for themselves.

You say: "And to think that he's still in business! That takes a lot of balls!" I don't see that. To me it means he's got nothing else going for him. How sad.

Fair enough.

I was definitely naive in my thinking...

 

[carob]

This thread is about claims by Adam's customers and employees that they've been cheated. If Adam's alleged contribution to our bottom line isn't being mentioned to garner sympathy for him, then I'm at a loss to understand how it's relevant to this thread.

To explain why many high up in the domain "industry" would have had a vested interest in not noticing or reporting the many impossible claims Adam Dicker was openly making, I pointed out earlier that his activity promoted two things that helped them, but not us: fresh registrations for registrars, and for some expensive domain resellers the belief - unproven to say the least - by clients that good domains always attract traffic and earn money, based on Dicker's untrustworthy figures. Does anyone want to step forward and say Dicker helped them by telling lies?

https://www.namepros.com/threads/is-adam-dicker-a-criminal-you-decide.883579/page-125#post-5086383

Let's face it, we now know influential people knew about the nichewebsites.com problems and did not tell us, allowing Dicker to take more payments for new jobs.

Silence allows abuse to flourish.

I think most of us know "free" offers are there to attract purchases - offering basic info free to gain people's interest and trust is a common strategy.

Fairly useful...? Give me a break... He used DS to promote his other businesses. He didn't care about viewers or new domainers, he was just trying to attract new customers for his web development business. His valuations were all made with that in mind. How many times have you heard him saying... "that's a great domain, it's a business in a box... give me a call and I will transform that domain into a successful business netting thousands of dollars each month". His speech didn't change even if talking about crappy names. So, if you ask me whether I'm gonna miss his videos... my answer is no.

 

[BUL]

Revoke all titles & strip all his awards

 

[GoWeb]

I signed off this thread at Page 60 and it's still live at page 126. Good God !! Just how much loss and heartburn a single scamster has caused to hundreds of people.

The "first" best thing, as @BUL suggests right above, would be to strip the Dicky Dicker of all his awards and titles by the "domaining" organizations.

The "second" best thing, which is already being worked on by Shane at the moment, would be to let him have a taste of legal repercussions of his scams. Since the GoFundMe campaign may take a while to raise the necessary money for a lawyer, personal legal action by some of better equipped "aggrieved ones" would be highly praiseworthy, even at a little personal monetary loss !!

 

[S-B]

I signed off this thread at Page 60 and it's still live at page 126. Good God !! Just how much loss and heartburn a single scamster has caused to hundreds of people.

The "first" best thing, as @BUL suggests right above, would be to strip the Dicky Dicker of all his awards and titles by the "domaining" organizations.

The "second" best thing, which is already being worked on by Shane at the moment, would be to let him have a taste of legal repercussions of his scams. Since the GoFundMe campaign may take a while to raise the necessary money for a lawyer, personal legal action by some of better equipped "aggrieved ones" would be highly praiseworthy, even at a little personal monetary loss !!

I have an appointment with a lawyer today. Will know more later tonight.

 

[Derick R.]

Paypal Dispute Over. I have been refunded.

 

[Derick R.]

Thank you Shane,for all of this. I hope the others can receive the money they are entitled to as well.
It just sucks it had to come with a drawn out 2 week fist to cuff dispute with screenshots from both of us,relays back and forth,instead of the initial simple "Sure,email me at A.Dcg@com to make this right" followed by quick solution like 95% of businesses do.
Thank you all for the pages of support as well. I seriously hope the $3k,$5k purchasers have a positive resolution no matter how long..
Mindblowing this entire thing is.

 

[domainesque]

Paypal Dispute Over. I have been refunded.

Did PayPal pay you back or Adam?

 

[Derick R.]

Did PayPal pay you back or Adam?

Paypal Decided the Dispute in my favor Domainesque

 

[S-B]

I need everyone who donated to the GoFundMe.com campaign to contact me.

 

[bobsranch]

Well I got the letter from Adam's attorney and If I don't meet his demands or mess up with the particulars of his demands then I am opening up a "Breach Of Contract" against me! ...this is priceless! Breach of contract, oh my God !! I want Woody Harrelson to play my part in the movie.

 

[GoWeb]

Well I got the letter from Adam's attorney and If I don't meet his demands or mess up with the particulars of his demands then I am opening up a "Breach Of Contract" against me! ...this is priceless! Breach of contract, oh my God !! I want Woody Harrelson to play my part in the movie.

And what are the demands? That you cease talking about your work contracted to his son?

Remembering the time when Adam's son Jordan whom was working on my project asked me for more money! This was after they produced awful foreign sounding text on my sites. I had written them numerous times pointing out their mistakes. Jordan the little Dicker is following proudly in his fathers foot steps. I also told Chuck Fleming whom also was working on my project that there was a virus on my sites. The virus would lock up your screen and give you a Tech support number to call. I told Chuck that all 10 of my sites were infected. He wrote back saying all were fixed but a quick check proved that the virus was still there. Now who could have been the recipient of such nefarious placement? Adam and I talk often and he said I'll be paid right after Lynda but I'm not holding my breath.

 

[DomainGist]

Paypal Decided the Dispute in my favor Domainesque

Glad my contributions to this thread helped at least one person

(I think you were the person I told to open a chargeback due to being within the timeframe, unless that was somebody else?)

 

[bobsranch]

And what are the demands? That you cease talking about your work contracted to his son?

It has nothing to do with his son. It's about removing my voice from this and another blog to Adam's liking which seems vague and opens me up to a lawsuit. I'm new to blogging and don't feel confidant enough to meet his demands. I do like the camaraderie here and have made many friends with excellent advice not to mention the added testimony of others taken by bad work, failed completions and myriad other problems like the virus on my 10 websites. There's a silent gathering of victims that may join forces and get proper representation.

 

[DomainGist]

It has nothing to do with his son. It's about removing my voice from this and another blog to Adam's liking which seems vague and opens me up to a lawsuit. I'm new to blogging and don't feel confidant enough to meet his demands. I do like the camaraderie here and have made many friends with excellent advice not to mention the added testimony of others taken by bad work, failed completions and myriad other problems like the virus on my 10 websites. There's a silent gathering of victims that may join forces and get proper representation.

I find the above a bit confusing.

Are you saying that in order to receive your refund you have to agree to something which if you subsequently don't comply with leaves you open to liability?

So for example, he will refund you if you promise not to post a single other post on this thread or on blog comments, but if you do then post on the topic you have breached the agreement and can be sued.

Or are you saying that you need to commit to the removal of some posts in order to receive a refund?

The former is risky, because you'd only be a rush of blood to the head or a few beers away from breaching the agreement.

The latter may not even be technical possible, removal of posts would be subject to third party agreement.